I would ask for a fuel sample to have tested yourself, if they come back and say it was bad. Ask for a copy of the fuel test regardless of what else they do. It would be good to know if they are actually testing now. I would also call the fuel station and see if they have had any complaints about bad fuel.Last Monday my HPFP failed and it is at a VW dealer near my house. They said they need to send a sample of my fuel to an independent lab to make sure I did not put Unleaded Fuel or Contaminated Diesel in the tank. I drove 225-250 miles on the tank of diesel I bought at a Marathon station on a busy stretch of highway in Indiana. My car has 27,000 miles on it and is only 2 years and this is ridiculous to go through. They said the diesel in the U.S. is not has good as in Europe; well they should adjust their manufacturing then. I hope to find out today what the deal is with the fuel and if they will repair it. If the fuel is contaminated they said I am on the hook. If that is the case do I go after the fuel station or make an insurance claim? What recourse would I have?
It's a poor design knowing full-well of the scar rating of US diesel. If you can't have a pump survive here, don't sell the car here. Period. If VW wanted more market share, providing a car with a high failure rate and sticking owners with upwards of five-figures of fuel system bills isn't exactly the best marketing...They said the diesel in the U.S. is not has good as in Europe; well they should adjust their manufacturing then.
FSHRAM, I'd be livid.So I got an update today from VWofA that the dealership sent my fuel sample to the wrong place. So I have waited 15 days just to hear that and now they sent it to the correct place. I am really furious; would the sample even be good anymore?
I think it is unlikely the station will be on the hook. How does one prove that it was the last load of fuel that caused the problem? A better case could be made if fuel was only purchased from one source.It changes who pays for it. If it turns up bad, then you - or the station you got the fuel from - will be on the hook for the repair cost.
New and improved pump = SOSDPNUpdate: My fuel sample came back clean so tey are repairing the car under the warranty and installing an "improved and updated pump" which kind of makes me mad that they did not just do this from the jump. I get the car back Tuesday hopefully and can get past this and decide if I want to keep the car or not.
PNs were just posted over here (I know they are on here a few times, but easy to lose track of!)...Please post the part numbers.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=4856414&postcount=6616My 2014 Golf had a HPFP failure a few weeks ago with just shy of 39k miles. Picked up the car today and the list on the invoice is:
1EA 03L-130-321 PIPE
1EA 03L-130-301 PIPE
1EA 03L-130-301-R PIPE
1EA 03L-130-301-B PIPE
1EA 03L-130-301-C PIPE
1EA 03L-130-089 FUEL DISTR
1EA 5N0-130-307-J PIPE
1EA 1K0-127-400-K FUEL FILTER
1EA 03L-130-235-S PIPE
4EA 03L-130-277-A INJECT UNIT
1EA 5NO-906-129-B FUEL PUMP
4EA 059-130-216-C PLATE
4EA WHT-000-884 SEAL RING
1EA 03L-201-360-G FUEL LINE
1EA 1K0-130-307-BJ HOSE
1EA 1K0-130-307-BG PIPE
1EA 1K0-919-050-AB FUEL UNIT
1EA 1K0-919-133-D WASHER
1EA 03L-130-851-AX PUMP
1EA 03L-130-238-A HUB
23402033 4 INJECTORS REMOVE AND REINSTALL
23731933 DISTRIBUTION RAIL REMOVE AND REINSTALL
23741933 HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP REMOVE AND REINSTALL
20345599 FUEL FILTER REPLACE
20661900 R&R FUEL PUMP
20030750 FUEL BLEED
20382999 CLEAN FUEL LINES
20392999 RETURN LINE CLEAN
20102999 CLEAN FUEL TANK
20641933 PRIMARY PUMP REMOVE AND REINSTALL
That's funny, I got the same call...just that my red top gel battery was only a year old, had them pull it out for me and exchanged it under warranty at Napa.So I am finally getting my car back today after 23 days. They called to tell me the car is ready but my battery is shot. So I am on the hook for a new battery. This whole experience has been awful and cannot get over quick enough. I will update you all on what they all repaired.
The thing that scares me is the first 48 months on the RP0 looks a lot like a power function.
Looks like the cp3 pump retrofit will be a great upgrade for those looking for long lasting pumps. Perfect time is when the timing belt comes up to change at 120k miles. 2micron's kit is great way to mitigate the damage to just the pump if it goes.It's true, the rate could accelerate over time based on the shape of the curve. If it goes to 20% at 10-years, that won't be good.
It's funny how 120,000 miles or 10-years sounds like good coverage, until you get to 120,000 miles in pretty quick order. With cars today, that's really not so many miles. I've had my fingers crossed for years now, so I'll just keep hoping for the best as I keep driving my TDI. If the HPFP goes, my back-up plan is to trade the car for a GTI and hope VW takes pity on me with the trade-in price of a TDI with a blown HPFP.
There are times that I really miss the sunroof, like days when it is upper 90s and I could vent heat out the back of the sunroof. However, I am glad that I don't have the pano roof. I think that would really cook my interior. As for the fog lights, since I live in the suburbs, I've never really needed them. I know your drive is a lot different from mine.I'm still on the fence because a Highline is still "more car" than a Trendline but honestly the only thing I think I'd miss is my sunroof. Not the leather, not the nav (AppConnect fixes that), and the foglights a bit maybe but not so much.
I'm actually disappointed the Mk VII has the pano roof, so the lack of sunroof on a Trendline is a plus for me. I wish they stayed with a normal sunroof.There are times that I really miss the sunroof, like days when it is upper 90s and I could vent heat out the back of the sunroof. However, I am glad that I don't have the pano roof. I think that would really cook my interior. As for the fog lights, since I live in the suburbs, I've never really needed them. I know your drive is a lot different from mine.
I was thinking the same with our wagon but by the time it's 10, my oldest will be 32 and my youngest 27. I'm hoping by then they can do their own thing automotively and not rely on hand-me-downs from the old farts... then we can hang on to one old car as a winter beater.I'm planning on ten years for each car too, but the wagen may end up going to one of the kids before the ten years are up. If the mileage numbers look good and the engine gets good reviews, I am thinking about a 2017 GMC Canyon diesel.
The thing I don't like about the curve is that it seems like we should have a lot more data on the RP1 and RP1+ by now. A lot more data on all pumps, in fact.Yikes I don't like that curve. I'm at 51 months service, but had the HPFP replaced a couple of years ago. Thing is, it hadn't actually failed but replaced to correct power loss issues at WOT which I now know to be related to IC condensation build-up (which the IC TSD did NOT fix). I have 137k km now. I'd like to see a curve by mileage though.