lemoncurd
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that'll do it!
fix that then you wont have problems
CP3 fuel pump upgrade thread
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fix that then you wont have problems
McGuirk
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Well aware of their lackluster tuning at this point. Problem is hindsight is 20/20 and my tuning selection is said and done for now. Don't feel like dropping more money at the moment on more tuning. Hoping this is a permanent fix instead. My only problem with this is what are the drawbacks of routing the fuel this way? Was talking to Isaac from Fisher Motorworks and he was saying there are check valves in the head of those filter canisters and this might have some drawbacks but he was going to think on it and get back to me.
just rerouted my OEM canister fuel lines. looped the returns together, and piped the CP3 return directly into the tank return
Same here!
Dis is de way
lemoncurd
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fwiw, i was able to obtain a refund from malone after retuning with @Xtremefunky
what helped me in this matter is i had irrefutable proof their tune wasnt functional / working correctly. i simple submitted the logs from my malone tune, then logs from my xtremefunky tune, and expressed my concerns+desire for a refund.
dont get me wrong, malone/tunezilla are great people on the people side of the operation. it's just a damn shame their tuning isnt up to par with the customer service
Was this for your GTD22xx?
Wondering if their inability also runs through the CR170 range, or, if it's all their offerings
Wondering if their inability also runs through the CR170 range, or, if it's all their offerings
lemoncurd
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tjg
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So I've got a Darkside CP3 with malone stage 3 on my A3 and a Darkside CP3 with malone stage 2 on my sportwagen and haven't had any issues. Still interested in that filter hose re-routing. I'll be keeping an eye on your updates.
lemoncurd
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tjg
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ye ol "works for me" defense.. some people will just never learn sadly :/
glad it "works" for you!
just for curiosity, go log "015, 140, 141" during 1.2k to redline fourth gear WOT pull
Didn't realize it was a measuring contest....
I provided the context for my CP3 being a darkside stage 1. I did a CP3 remap with Malone for the A3, logs out to redline. Once again no issues.
I get there are some unhappy Malone customers, but for every one of them, there's at least one who's satisfied and doesn't say anything
lemoncurd
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not a measuring contest, just a bit of work to maybe open your eyes.
Didn't realize it was a measuring contest....
I provided the context for my CP3 being a darkside stage 1. I did a CP3 remap with Malone for the A3, logs out to redline. Once again no issues.
I get there are some unhappy Malone customers, but for every one of them, there's at least one who's satisfied and doesn't say anything
if your tune is anything like others i have seen, youll notice some glaring issues in that log.
like cylinder torque being different from engine-reported-torque
dont see an issue with those 2 torque values not aligning? let me help paint you a picture, the ABS, EPS, TSC, ASR, and ACC (if equipped) all listen to the ENGINE reported torque. now if your ACTUAL torque (IE, the one in the cylinders) is different, then you have a mismatch between real world and ECU-model. which is a BIG ISSUE.
dont believe me?
here is a malone "stage 4" tune
now for a real "stage 4" tune
notice anything?
at the end of the day, tune with who you want. if it works for you and your needs, great! im only trying to educate and inform. because i see it all too often, people THINK they have good tuning with malone, when infact they do not
Solid evidence @lemoncurd
Do you notice any difference in the harmonics, while driving, or at idle? Or is this more like a silent killer in high torque applications
Do you notice any difference in the harmonics, while driving, or at idle? Or is this more like a silent killer in high torque applications
lemoncurd
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with engine torque properly adjusted, youll notice traction control works better, the DSG shifts better, and torque steer comp works as intended.
lying to the DSG about engine torque is a dangerous game imo. it needs to determine if youre accelerating or what your next move is. with a fudged torque calculation in ECU, youre blinding or misleading the DSG
overall i noticed my car was smoother, and more OEM+ like than with malone. malone was very jerky in my car
McGuirk
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Well been about a week. Been driving the car a lot. No issues whatsoever. No hint of low rail pressure, even on WOT in sport mode. Still no word about whether routing the fuel lines this way is of any concern on a cp3 with pre boost pump removed modded car.