Considering Touareg TDI
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You will lucky to get a response on this website. Very tight lipped group. I have no experience with the years you are looking at. I have a 2014 TDI with 161,000 miles on it. It has not had the emission mod done on it. I haven't had any major repairs and don't add oil at a 8k oil change. I did replace the struts with Bilsteins which was $1700. It has averaged over 27 MPG in its life. I pull my 2500 lb Boston Whaler boat very easily and get close to 20 mpg doing that. I really like mine but know some expensive repairs are coming. The 2013 and newer are very fast in my opinion.
Capt.Aidan
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Agree with everything Leroy said.
Before I purchased my 2015, I spent a lot of time reading through the threads on this forum as well as Club Touareg which have some great info. I have still had issues come up with mine.
General consensus would be to make sure you have a good independent VW/Audi specialist mechanic lined up, as well as VCDS so that you can scan yourself when issues come up. And be prepared for expensive repair bills when things fail. Despite the VW badge, Touaregs are luxury vehicles, and repair bills line up accordingly. That is not exclusive to the diesel or the gas engines.
Before I purchased my 2015, I spent a lot of time reading through the threads on this forum as well as Club Touareg which have some great info. I have still had issues come up with mine.
General consensus would be to make sure you have a good independent VW/Audi specialist mechanic lined up, as well as VCDS so that you can scan yourself when issues come up. And be prepared for expensive repair bills when things fail. Despite the VW badge, Touaregs are luxury vehicles, and repair bills line up accordingly. That is not exclusive to the diesel or the gas engines.
oilhammer
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They are indeed awesome:
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I don't own your model year ,but the TDIs from 2011 on are problematic regarding the emissions systems. My 2012 TDI never have an issue with emissions because it wasn't retrofitted with the new emissions requirements. The 2016 was "fixed" and was a disaster. Every part in the system was replaced and it still had major issues with new parts required. Completely unreliable.
The pity is the engine is superb, I had no problems at all until the FIX.
The pity is the engine is superb, I had no problems at all until the FIX.
TurboABA
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OP is asking about CATA with 09D and pics are of CNRB with 0C8.... there's a lot of similarities between the motors, but also a lot of differences. The transmissions and transfer boxes difference is much greater, but let's not get carried away.
OP, have a read here for some info
I've seen a lot of the 09-10s with decent longevity, but a lot depends on maintenance and typical use patterns, etc.
There's no simple, easy answer to what you're asking.
If you don't have any prior diesel exposure, you've got a lot of catching up to do....
OP, have a read here for some info
2009 2010 VW Touareg TDI forum and buying guide with FAQ, reviews, invoice pricing, and revisions and differences
2009 2010 VW Touareg TDI forum, FAQ, buying checklist with reviews, invoice, MSRP price
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I've seen a lot of the 09-10s with decent longevity, but a lot depends on maintenance and typical use patterns, etc.
There's no simple, easy answer to what you're asking.
If you don't have any prior diesel exposure, you've got a lot of catching up to do....
benIV
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I just found a couple of the V10's (2004 120k mi and a 2007 140k mi) for sale and was glad to find this thread! lol. Haven't seen one for sale since idk when. Wish I knew some tdi friends in these places to look at for me lol.
Is a 2004 that much more desirable than the later ones because of what they had to do to get it back in the US after 2004?
Is a 2004 that much more desirable than the later ones because of what they had to do to get it back in the US after 2004?
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TurboABA
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V10's share almost nothing with what's being discussed here...... they don't have TCs but they will give you headaches in other ways.
04's are "desirable" because they didn't have the DPF stuff to deal with......
04's are "desirable" because they didn't have the DPF stuff to deal with......
benIV
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yeah i saw there was no mention of the v10, but had no idea they were that different. guess i should've started a separate thread.
oilhammer
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The V10 T'reg is quite an experience to drive. The sound they make and the pull they have is pretty awesome.
benIV
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The price isn't nearly as much as what I thought it would be so maybe it would be worth a flight out to get one.
Maybe I could just skip the flight and have it shipped.
oilhammer
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Anything expensive like that (most V10 equipped ones were around $70k new) tank in value fairly quickly.
You can find first gen VR6 T'regs at auction for less than a grand. They all need $10k worth of work. These things can be nuts expensive to maintain.
You can find first gen VR6 T'regs at auction for less than a grand. They all need $10k worth of work. These things can be nuts expensive to maintain.
TurboABA
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Read up on it. Unless they have been really taken care of, they are a money pit.... and this is even for those who do their own wrenching and don't need to rely on them for transportation until they sort it all out..... part availability is another thing..... just about everything requires a motor & trans drop as illustrated above..... etc, etc, etc.....
Unless you like projects, have lots of disposable time and funds, and are able to tackle just about everything yourself, it's a risky move.....
Lots of them are simply abused until they start crapping out, and then, some lipstick is slapped on them for a quick sale.
Make sure you know how to check everything with VCDS on them, from drivetrain to all the electronics, etc. Just the air suspension can set you back a few K if it's 20 years old and the bags start exploding, etc.
Unless you like projects, have lots of disposable time and funds, and are able to tackle just about everything yourself, it's a risky move.....
Lots of them are simply abused until they start crapping out, and then, some lipstick is slapped on them for a quick sale.
Make sure you know how to check everything with VCDS on them, from drivetrain to all the electronics, etc. Just the air suspension can set you back a few K if it's 20 years old and the bags start exploding, etc.
benIV
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ugh. i was so excited to see one for sale.. i guess that's just my luck. not that money isn't a serious consideration but regardless i don't have the kind of experience and knowledge to know what i'm getting into with it before hand and who knows how long it's going to be available.
sounds like it's a headache just to find parts let alone to do the work.
and ofc i'm fairly certain there's no one within a 6 hour drive of me as far as reliable tdi folks to work on it. the one guy i've trusted with my mk4's a few times says he wouldn't touch it lol. i need to move near some gurus lol.
all that said, if you know off the top of your head any threads or places for me to go look into this more, i'm all ears. I don't want to give up on the idea yet. otherwise i'm getting a lot better at using search function here lol
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TurboABA
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Google is your friend, or head over to Club Touareg and do some searches on things like cam replacements, cracked manifolds, leaky turbos, leaky pumps, air suspension issues, wiring issues, alternator replacements, water logged ECUs, O2 sensor replacements, etc.....
That should give you a bit of an idea of stuff you should be on the lookout for.
That should give you a bit of an idea of stuff you should be on the lookout for.
TurboABA
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@benIV
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benIV
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lol. that's a lot of keys. i always assume something is awfully wrong if the original owner is selling their ~20 year old car with only 73k miles that appears in such good shape. I'm almost tempted to bid, but i've never even heard of bat let alone if it's reputable
TurboABA
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Just do it