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Whitechapel1977

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Picked up my first TDI a 2012 Touraeg executive really nice vehicle, looking to get a aftermarket cold air intake but I'm not having any luck finding one.. I usually run s&b in my diesel trucks but I'm open to other options.
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Vince Waldon

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The "can't find any" is a hint!

Here's the FAQ thread on the subject:

"Cold-air intakes" and "high-flow air filter" FAQ

By popular demand, here's an FAQ thread for USEFUL information on cold-air intakes and high-flow air filters. Useless posts will be removed. Go nuts. Edit: know what would be cool? Maybe someone can make a nifty, tastefully funny but small and useful button picture that links to this thread...
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Vince Waldon said:
The "can't find any" is a hint!

Here's the FAQ thread on the subject:

"Cold-air intakes" and "high-flow air filter" FAQ

By popular demand, here's an FAQ thread for USEFUL information on cold-air intakes and high-flow air filters. Useless posts will be removed. Go nuts. Edit: know what would be cool? Maybe someone can make a nifty, tastefully funny but small and useful button picture that links to this thread...
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Thanks but I don't want a comparison thread just looking for a good quality intake IF said intake is available. If I want to waste my money on an intake so what 🤷
 
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I've had diesel trucks fitted with aftermarket air intake filters s&b is my go to and never have had an issue. Literally hundreds of thousands of miles put on running them, and since they're my bread and butter (I'm a mobile welding contractor) I feel confident in using them.
Thanks lemonturd
 
PRY4SNO

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Hey man, I get it. My Cummins has one too. But that's comparing oranges to basketballs.

VW (and Audi, Porsche) over designed the air box.

You're only downgrading your engine if you install a warm air intake (if you can find one).

Your best bet is to find another upgrade pathway: tune, delete, exhaust, w/m injection, turbo, are all legit options to get more smiles per mile.
 
lemoncurd

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Whitechapel1977 said:
I've had diesel trucks fitted with aftermarket air intake filters s&b is my go to and never have had an issue. Literally hundreds of thousands of miles put on running them, and since they're my bread and butter (I'm a mobile welding contractor) I feel confident in using them.
Thanks lemonturd
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ah yes, because i love when people compare a frankly much more robust (by nature, ahem the nearly 3x size difference in displacement) to our smaller TDI's which have been built for totally different purposes.

wether you like it or not, the VW TDI's are built for fuel economy, and reliability. not for towing. also im not sure if you missed this fact, but VW built the TDI's and cummins built... well, cummins. because of this the 2 use different materials.

the material VW uses for their MAF coating on the PCB is easily corroded by oils. there are numerous documented cases of this!

now, regarding the "Literally hundreds of thousands of miles" comment, should we break out the psychology handbook and dig into why this logic isnt sound for justification? there is something called survivorship bias.

as @PRY4SNO said, the airbox in your car is over engineered. it is a proper cold air intake, and will flow more air than your engine can use until you port + cam the head, or at the least upgrade the turbo.

Whitechapel1977 said:
Thanks lemonturd
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thanks for the new signature :)
 
MrCypherr

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If diesel trucks are your bread and butter, youd know that doing a delete is better than a ****ty air intake for "All the gainz brother".
 
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Whitechapel1977 said:
Is it all a bunch of *******s on here? For ****s sake.. I was looking an aftermarket air intake, not a bunch of sarcastic ****in bullshit
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Dude, chill!
The issue is that cold air intakes cause a lot of issues on VWs, they may work fine for a Cummins, but the Cummins doesn't have a hot film type MAF like a VW. In fact, it doesn't have any MAF.
The reason none are available is because they're absolutely useless and cause issues on these cars.
We are trying to help you, but you don't see it. I'm guessing you didn't read the thread Vince Waldon posted which explains why they're not good on these cars?
 
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Rig welders. Man. Always *****ing about something.

If you want to reduce the performance and efficiency of your TDI, by all means; you do you. Just don't moan about it when we call you out.

You were the one who asked the question, and then started chirping when you didn't get the canned response you wanted (it's called confirmation bias). The posters who have taken time to respond to you have literally thousands of hours reading and wrenching on these motors, yet you're the one turning a blind eye to the advice offered.

If you want to hear your turbo whistling Dixie, great! Just do like I said: cut a bunch of holes in your intake. It'll be a lot cheaper to replace later if/when you want than buying a garbage intake that does nothing for performance. If you can find one.

These are limited production run vehicles for the luxury market. So the aftermarket is, logically, limited in scope. Thus, the mods that are available for enthusiasts tend to focus on actual performance/reliability/efficiency metrics that can be proven by a dyno.

If you want one so bad, weld one up!
 
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For the OP....

I have been told by others, who unlike me, "pull really hard" that....
Scuderia uses BMC filters from the factory
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So based on that, check out their offerings....

Air Intake Systems - Car | BMC AIRFILTERS

www.bmcairfilters.com www.bmcairfilters.com
.... and while you're at it, might as well go for some of these too

Performance Inlet for Touareg and Cayenne TDI

Performance Inlet for Touareg and Cayenne TDI
kermatdi.com kermatdi.com
 
The Cream Dolphin

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Everyone on here loves the tdi engines, it is a bit sad to see one die. I cannot find the thread I wanted, it was more recent and a tree crushed an alh golf. but here are 2 examples

https://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php?threads/rip-warning-crushed-car-pics.474999/page-6

https://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php?threads/hurricane-matthew-dropped-a-tree-on-my-tdis.467887/

We just want to take care of you.
Whitechapel1977 said:
Thanks lemonturd
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As for "sarcastic ****in bullshit" I would say you take the cake.

BUT I can see that nobody has actually answered your question. That can be a bit frustrating. I did a research on Google for you and found one person said they put a cheap cone filter on. I am sure you could find the inlet diameter of your hose and find any random cone filter that fits. Any brand probably has one that will fit. If you read more on this forum, I am certain you will find out that the problems caused by these filters are dead horse that has been beaten many times over. So feel free to add your post, but it may not be worthwhile. as for Turbo sound, try removing your downpipe and having an open hole down there boy will you hear it. I currently have a cracked flex pipe that I will be fixing shortly and the turbo sound is awesome, almost sad to lose it.

Edit: I typed this a little while ago, and forgot to post, now I see that @TurboABA did actually give some advice. My quotation mark nobody quotation markdid actually give some advice. My "nobody" did not take that into account, sorry, Turbo
 
PRY4SNO

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TurboABA said:

Performance Inlet for Touareg and Cayenne TDI

Performance Inlet for Touareg and Cayenne TDI
kermatdi.com kermatdi.com
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"This upgraded hose with 5 ply installs after your Airbox and produces better turbo response and a bit of power on harder pulls."

Hard to verify marketing claims like this without any data to confirm.

Also, doesn't this go in between the factory cold air intake and the turbo? I don't believe this replaces the air filter like OP wanted.
 
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What are you looking for in an aftermarket intake? Deeper fording? Less restriction? Less intake of dust offroad?

The OEM Touareg intake is one of the best designed on any production vehicle- it is totally cold air with a MASSIVE filter, and extremely good at preventing water intake during deep fording. You really can safely ford at the rated fording depth, which is really high- well above the door sills. I've done deep fording up to the full rated depth offroad many times in my T2 with zero issues...

I like the idea of the darkside kit if you really do a lot of deep fording, but the rest of the vehicle also should be modified for deeper than stock fording ability. In particular, I would be worried about the ventilation system for the differentials and transmission- they are more than high enough for factory fording depth, but need to be moved for much deeper fording. You'd also likely want to remove the carpets, waterproof and relocate the electronics under the seats, etc. Also start checking/changing all of these fluids immediately after every trip.
 
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