Chicago 2009 TDI Owners: Non-Biodiesel Support Group

[Jetta09Chicago]

Please help me create a resource list of Chicago-area service stations that supply No.2 non-biodiesel fuel. Use this thread to post the following info:

1. Station Name
2. Address (city/state/zip) and/or Nearest Major Intersection
3. Type of Fuel ("Conventional" vs. "Premium" Diesel No. 2)
4. How Non-Bio Content Verified (Attendant, Manager, Distributor)

Before submitting, please examine the fuel pump to confirm that there are no disclosure labels indicating a biodiesel blend (usually blue or black stickers).

As background, the 2009 Jetta TDI owner's manual states,

"Diesel fuel with a higher concentration than ULSD-Diesel No. 2 ASTM D975 and Bio-diesel with a higher concentration than 5% like B11, B20 or B100 are strictly prohibited."

For owners who wish to comply with this specification, residents of Illinois are at an extreme hardship. Under SB 46, signed into law in 2003, biodiesel blends above 10% receive an exemption from state sales tax. For this reason, the vast majority of diesel pumps exceed VW's biodiesel requirement.

Once again, the purpose of this thread is to build a non-biodiesel service station resource list for Chicago-area 2009 TDI owners. (There are other forums for general discussion of biodiesel and experiences with such fuel on 2009 TDI cars.)

Any contributions appreciated!

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

PETRODIESEL (NON-BIODIESEL) STATION LIST
Updated as of 7/31/10

Thanks to various members who contributed the following info. Please help us expand this list of non-biodiesel (D2) pumps in the Chicago area. All diesel brands and service station chains are welcome!

CHICAGO AREA
(Cook, DuPage, Kane, Lake, McHenry and Will Counties)
BP stations may offer either petrodiesel (<B5) or biodiesel (disclosed on pump labels).
BP station locator: http://www.bp.com/toolserver/helios...earch.do?categoryId=1000001&contentId=7031707 (CHECK DIESEL FUEL BOX)
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/26/09

Gas City stations in the Chicago area carry B11 year-round.
Submitted by: BTL on 1/6/10

Meijer stations in the Chicago area are exclusively petrodiesel.
The few Meijer suburban locations are all listed below.
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Shell stations in the Chicago area may carry either petrodiesel or biodiesel.
We need to list Shell petrodiesel locations on a station-by-station basis.
See posting by: Jetta09Chicago on 5/9/09.

Speedway stations in the Chicago area may carry either petrodiesel or biodiesel.
We need to list Speedway petrodiesel locations on a station-by-station basis.
See posting by: PalosParked on 5/13/09.

Thornton's stations are usually but not always biodiesel. Some stations offered B11 but have discontinued it. The corporate website states, "More recently, bio-diesel has become more readily available. We were the first in our market areas to adopt its use as well. This product is made by blending cleaner, ultra-low sulfur diesel fuel with industry certified biodiesel."
http://www.thorntonsinc.com/pages/fuel/engery_conservation.html

Alqonquin
BP
1469 S. Randall Rd., Algonquin, IL 60102
847-854-2295 or 847-854-7899
Submitted by Jetta09Chicago on 12/8/09

Meijer
490 S. Randall Rd., Algonquin, IL 60102
847-960-7801
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Aurora
Meijer
818 N. Route 59, Aurora, IL 60504
630-692-6180
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Bartlett
BP
1100 W. Stearms Rd. (at Route 59), Bartlett, IL 60103
630-540-2132
Submitted by: GibMir1 on 7/11/09

Batavia
Feece Oil Co.
1700 Hubbard Dr., Batavia, IL 60510
888-879-1911
Submitted by: BTL on 9/22/09

Bensenville
BP
550 N. Route 83, Bensenville, IL 60106
630-766-2790
Submitted by: PalosParked on 8/5/09

JAM Trucking Co.
1100 W. Ellis, Bensenville, IL 60106
630-521-1100
Submitted by: Thunderstruck on 1/30/09

Bloomingdale
Meijer
128 S. Gary Ave., Bloomingdale, IL 60108
630-351-7610
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Bolingbrook
Meijer
195 N. Weber Rd., Bolingbrook, IL 60490
630-679-6500
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Bolingbrook
Meijer
735 E. Boughton Rd., Bolingbrook, IL 60440
630-783-5301
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Cary
Thornton's (confirmed biodiesel discontinued at this station)
800 Northwest Hwy., Cary, IL 60013
847-516-2210
Submitted by: jcrews on 6/18/09

Chicago
BP
1221 S. Wabash Ave., Chicago, IL 60605
312-566-0067
Submitted by: PalosParked on 8/5/09

BP
3047 S. Halsted St., Chicago, IL 60608-5804
312-842-0180
Submitted by: PalosParked on 7/30/09

BP
4701 S. Central, Chicago, IL 60638
708-924-1553
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 12/8/09

BP Amoco
9900 S. Halsted St., Chicago, IL 60628-1036
773-429-9138
Submitted by: PalosParked on 7/30/09

Crest Hill
Phillips 66
20755 W. Renwick Rd. (west of Weber Rd.), Crest Hill, IL 60403
815-588-6600
Submitted by: BTL on 6/17/09

Crystal Lake
Citgo
5604 S. Route 31 (at Route 176), Crystal Lake, IL 60014
815-477-1078
Submitted by: N8116B on 6/19/09

Des Plaines
Mobil
I-90 (Des Plaines Oasis)
847-635-4005 and 847-390-9464
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago
Confirmed non-biodiesel via fuel sample analysis on 7/8/09

Downers Grove
BP (under new management 6/16/09)
4314 Main St. (SW corner of Ogden Ave. and Main St.), Downers Grove, IL 60515
630-810-0190
Submitted by: PalosParked on 6/3/09

Delta Sonic (premium)
1407 Ogden Ave., Downers Grove, IL 60515-2734
630-963-8710
Submitted by: Thunderstruck on 6/26/10

Dyer, IN
BP
3325 Hart St., Dyer, IN 46311
219-322-1445
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 12/8/09

Elgin
Meijer
801 S. Randall Rd., Elgin, IL 60123
847-717-6510
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Elk Grove Village
BP
601 E. Devon Ave., Elk Grove Village, IL 60007
847-860-8735
Submitted by: PalosParked on 8/5/09

Elmhurst
BP
1003 N. York Rd., Elmhurst, IL 60126
630-833-2213
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 12/8/09

Delta Sonic (premium)
600 W. North Ave., Elmhurst, IL 60126
630-530-8874
Submitted by: Thunderstruck on 6/26/10

Forest View
BP
4701 S. Central Ave., Forest View, IL 60638-1530
708-924-1553
Submitted by: PalosParked on 7/30/09

Frankfort
BP
16 E. Lincoln Hwy. Frankfort, IL 60423
815-464-9423
Submitted by: PalosParked on 4/22/09

Glenview
BP
2401 Sanders Rd. (at Willow Rd.), Glenview, IL 60025
847-326-0301
Submitted by: lowrider12 on 5/3/10

Glenwood
Delta Sonic (premium)
18225 S. Halsted St., Glenwood, IL 60425-1056
708-754-3909
Submitted by: Thunderstruck on 6/26/10

Gurnee
Citgo (Gurnee Fuel Stop)
2301 N. Route 41, Gurnee, IL 60031
847-693-4168
Submitted by: nibw on 7/1/09 and StoBro2 on 7/30/10

Harvey
Marathon
16643 S. Halsted St., Harvey, IL 60426
Submitted by: PalosParked on 4/22/09

Hinsdale
Fuller's (premium)
102 W. Chicago Ave., Hinsdale, IL 60521
630-325-0088
Submitted by: PalosParked on 4/22/09

Shell
210 E. Ogden Ave., Hinsdale, IL 60521
630-323-2477
Submitted by: PalosParked on 5/13/09

Hoffman Estates
Mobil
1700 W. Algonquin Rd., Hoffman Estates, IL 60192
847-359-0190
Submitted by: lofloff on 8/1/09

Joliet
BP (River Boat Gas & Food, Inc.)
1411 Riverboat Center Dr., Joliet, IL 60431
815-741-9774
Submitted by: dzcad90 on 7/22/10

Delta Sonic (premium)
1812 W. Jefferson St. (at Larkin Ave.), Joliet, IL 60435
815-207-7000
Submitted by: dzcad90 on 6/20/09 and Thunderstruck on 6/26/10

Lake Forest
Mobil
I-94 (Lake Forest Oasis)
847-234-9066
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago

Lemont
Citgo (premium)
135th St. & New Ave., Lemont, IL 60439
630-257-7761
Submitted by: BTL on 9/15/09

Shell
12301 Archer Ave., Lemont, IL 60439
630-243-0432
Submitted by: PalosParked on 6/3/09

Libertyville
Mobil
1060 E. Park Ave., Libertyville, IL 60048
847-362-6620
Submitted by: not_timmins

Lincolnshire
BP
490 Milwaukee Ave., Lincolnshire, IL 60069-3011
847-634-3223
Submitted by: tlak77 on 5/22/10

Lombard
Shell
600 W. North Ave. (at Rohlwing Rd.), Lombard, IL 60148
630-627-6450
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago, 4/8/09

McHenry
Meijer
2155 N. Richmond Rd., McHenry, IL 60050
815-578-9700
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Minooka
Feece Oil Co.
517 Twin Rail Dr., Minooka, IL 60447
888-879-1911
Submitted by: BTL on 9/22/09

Mokena
BP
9545 191st St., Mokena, IL 60448
708-479-0175
Submitted by: PalosParked on 4/22/09

North Aurora
Mobil
329 S. Lincolnway (Illinois 31 & I-88), North Aurora, IL 60542
630-859-2323
Submitted by: b4black on 12/16/09

Woodman's
151 Hansen Blvd., North Aurora, IL 60542-8986
630-723-3900
Submitted by: CornfieldCraig on 8/1/09

Northbrook
BP
1998 Willow Road (at Sanders Road), Northbrook, IL 60062
847-562-0378
Submitted by: lowrider12 on 5/3/10

Oswego
BP
6501 Route 34 (east of Orchard Rd.), Oswego, IL 60543
630-551-0329
Submitted by: b4black on 6/18/09

Meijer
2700 Route 34 (at Douglas Rd.), Oswego, IL 60543
630-636-5029
Submitted by: BTL on 6/10/09

Mobil
6551 Route 34 (west of Orchard Rd.), Oswego, IL 60543
630-551-0970
Submitted by: BTL on 6/17/09

Palatine
Palatine Oil Co.
515 W. Colfax St., Palatine, IL 60067
847-358-3100
Submitted by: Thunderstruck on 1/30/09

Plainfield
Meijer
13705 S. Route 59, Plainfield, IL 60544
815-267-8100
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Rolling Meadows
Meijer
1301 Meijer Dr., Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
847-690-1210
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09
Confirmed non-biodiesel via fuel sample analysis on 7/8/09

Romeoville
BP
418 N. Weber Rd., Romeoville, IL 60446
815-407-1790
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 12/8/09

Roselle
BP
5 W. Irving Park Rd., Roselle, IL 60172
630-893-5693
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 7/9/09
Confirmed non-biodiesel via fuel sample analysis on 7/8/09

Schaumburg
Mobil (Walden Service)
1601 E. Algonquin Rd., Schaumburg, IL 60173
847-397-2244
Submitted by: N8116B on 6/17/09

Shorewood
BP
312 E. Jefferson St., Shorewood, IL 60404
815-725-1658
Submitted by: PalosParked on 7/30/09

Mobil (Non-Biodiesel from November-March only)
4303 W. Jefferson (U.S. 52 at I-55), Shorewood, IL
Submitted by: dzcad90 on 11/24/09

St. Charles
Meijer
865 S. Randall Rd., St. Charles, IL 60174
630-762-7200
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 3/4/09

Tinley Park
Delta Sonic (premium)
6800 159th St. (at Oak Park Ave.), Tinley Park, IL 60478
708-614-0772
Submitted by: Thunderstruck on 6/26/10

Vernon Hills
Shell
909 S. Milwaukee Ave., Vernon Hills, IL 60061
847-634-3737
Submitted by: tlak77 on 5/22/10

Wauconda
BP
512 W. Liberty St. (Route 176 just east of Route 59), Wauconda, IL 60084
847-487-8303
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 6/21/09

Westmont
Citgo (Jimmy's Service Station) (premium)
260 N. Cass Ave., Westmont, IL 60559
630-969-2323
Submitted by: PalosParked on 6/10/09

Wilmette
BP
840 Skokie Rd., Wilmette, IL 60091
847-251-4321
Submitted by: nibw on 12/29/09

Willowbrook
Mobil
7675 Kingery Hwy., Willowbrook, IL 60527
630-654-8617
Submitted by: dzcad90 on 6/7/09

Winnetka
BP
1025 Tower Rd., Winnetka, IL 60093
847-446-2287
Submitted by: Deming on 2/1/09

Worth
Marathon (Woodstock Petroleum)
11501 S. Harlem Ave., Worth, IL 60482
708-671-1791
Submitted by: PalosParked on 6/13/09

Yorkville
BP
1402 N. Bridge, Yorkville, IL 60560
630-553-7634
Submitted by: Jetta09Chicago on 12/8/09


DOWNSTATE ILLINOIS

Arthur
Collins Oil Service
Arthur, IL 61911
217-543-2722
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Assumption
Freedom
101 S. Business Route 51, Assumption, IL 62510
217-226-3321
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Bloomington
Freedom
18928 U.S. 150 (at Towanda Barnes Rd.), Bloomington, IL 61705
309-828-7750
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Freedom
1802 W. Market St., Bloomington, IL 61701
309-828-4223
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Freedom
1331 N. Linden, Bloomington, IL 61701
309-829-5922
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Freedom
1402 S. Main St., Bloomington, IL 61701
309-827-6826
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Champaign
Freedom
1406 N. Prospect Ave., Champaign, IL 61820
217-398-4930
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Chillicothe
Freedom
5530 E. Knox St., Chillicothe, IL 61523
309-274-6660
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Clinton
Freedom
219 W. Van Buren St., Clinton, IL 61727
217-935-6153
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Creve Coeur
Freedom
1023 N. Main St., Creve Coeur, IL 61610
309-694-2156
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

East Peoria
MacDonald's Shell
1100 N. Main St., East Peoria, IL 61611
309-694-2449
Submitted by: Thunderstruck on 7/14/09

Edwards
Freedom
7200 N. Kickapoo-Edwards Rd., Edwards, IL 61528
309-691-0537
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

El Paso
Freedom
601 W. Main St., El Paso, IL 61738
309-527-6210
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Genoa City, WI
BP
100 Elizabeth Ln., Genoa City, WI 53128
262-279-0123
Submitted by: lovemybug on 3/4/09

Girard
Freedom
102 S. Third, Girard, IL 62640
217-627-2651
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Goodfield
Freedom
211 W. Peoria St., Goodfield, IL 61742
309-965-2291
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Lacon
Freedom
102 S. Prairie, Lacon, IL 61540
309-246-2500
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Le Roy
Freedom
101 W. Cedar St., Le Roy, IL 61752
309-962-3205
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Lexington
Freedom
1102 W. Main St., Lexington, IL 61753
309-365-8697
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Loves Park
Shell
5542 E. Riverside Blvd., Loves Park, IL 61111-4942
815-847-5620
Submitted by: MAW on 11/27/09

Maroa
Freedom
102 N. Wood St., Maroa, IL 61756
217-794-5542
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Metamora
Freedom
610 E. Mount Vernon St., Metamora, IL 61548
309-367-4904
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Normal
Freedom
601 S. Main St., Normal, IL 61761
309-454-1417
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Ottawa
Feece Oil Co.
701 Hitt St. (Route 71), Ottawa, IL 61350
888-879-1911
Submitted by: BTL on 9/22/09

Pekin
Freedom
1206 S. 2nd St., Pekin, IL 61554
309-353-4938
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Pontiac
Freedom
957 W. Reynolds St. (Rte. 115 & Rte. 66), Pontiac, IL 61764
815-842-3735
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Roanoke
Freedom
501 W. Front St., Roanoke, IL 61561
309-923-7342
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Rockford
Some Shell stations in Rockford area carry non-bio D2.
Submitted by: MAW

Springfield
Freedom
Bachman Dr. (near 3975 N. Dirksen Pky.), Springfield, IL 62702
217-528-9528
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Sullivan
Howy's Lakeside
County Route 3, Sullivan, IL 61951
217-728-2810
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Toluca
Freedom
402 N. Main St., Toluca, IL 61369
815-452-2762
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Urbana
Freedom
1812 N. Cunningham, Urbana, IL 61802
217-328-5007
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Freedom
501 S. Vine St., Urbana, IL 61801
217-367-1931
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

Washington
Freedom
2302 Washington Rd., Washington, IL 61571
309-745-9211
Submitted by: ppcjbj on 5/1/10

 

[alnmike]

Wow, that really sucks. What do the local VW dealers have to say, or VWoA?

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

Alnmike, I wrote a letter to my local VW dealer from whom I purchased the car. He in turn contacted a regional rep who did not have an immediate answer. The regional rep then contacted VWoA, and I am still awaiting a reply. When I receive further info, I will post it for the benefit of other members.

 

[Thunderstruck]

JAM is a card lock station, and is serviced by POC. Their credit card reader is busted and they've never gotten it fixed-I'm the only one who has tried a CC there. I got a card from POC so I could fill up there, and I mail POC a check once a month when they bill me.
We are on the bleeding edge of what is going to become a growing concern as time goes on-I used to go out of my way to specifically buy Bio, and now I have to go out of my way to not buy it.

 

[deming]

Do not be afraid of the B11 or B12% ULSD blended Bio-Diesel.
It is not a high concentration. We have two 2.0 TDI Pump Duse 2005 Passat Wagons. Basically the same motor that you guys have in the 2009 TDI.

We have 40,000 miles on the one car and 30,000 miles on the other car. We have had no issues running the B11% or B12% summer or winter. I do however recommend that you change your fuel filter once per year and run Power Service (white bottle) in the winter months. The factory recommended Stanadyne in my opinion is crap. I have had it gel up inside the bottle.

VW like many manufacturers, is just covering its behind and not endorsing anything more than B5% for warranty reasons. Deere and Company and Catepillar are no different. We have run B11 / B12% in our $310,000
John Deere combine with no issues for the last two seasons. Unfortunately, there are knuckle heads that will attempt to run a super high concentration of Bio- Diesel in their car or equipment and they could potentially gel up or mess up an injector pump or the fuel system. People sometimes do dumb things!

You be your own judge. Nothing wrong with playing it safe. We have had good luck with the B12% and feel comfortable running it in our Passats.
Like I stated, 12% is not a high concentration. B25% is getting up in the concentration a bit too far for my liking.

Just my humble .02.

BTW- BP Premier ULSD with no bio-diesel is available at the BP station on GreenBay Rd and Tower Rd in Winnetka. Good quality stuff.

Thanks
Deming

 

[Sip'n Diesel]

BTW- BP Premier ULSD with no bio-diesel is available at the BP station on GreenBay Rd and Tower Rd in Winnetka. Good quality stuff.

Thanks
Deming

O RLY?

 

[Thunderstruck]

I thought BP Premier was discontinued several years ago. How do you know it's not regular D2 masquerading as Premier? Don't forget several stations were found to be doing just that back in the days.
Anyway, with PD you don't have to worry about post injected bio contaminating your oil-we do.

 

[redbrick1]

We have two 2.0 TDI Pump Duse 2005 Passat Wagons. Basically the same motor that you guys have in the 2009 TDI.

Sorry, I disagree with that. Whether or not biodiesel's ok is another issue.

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

Biodiesel Pump Labels

I have been surveying service stations which sell "diesel" in Chicago and the outlying suburbs. As some of you may know, a new law took effect July 1, 2008 requiring service stations to provide disclosure of biodiesel content greater than 5% (B5) via stickers applied to the pump. Following are links to the state legislation, as well as examples of the decals:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/95/PDF/095-0381.pdf
http://www.opisnet.com/market/decalbiodiesel.asp

In one afternoon I visited 11 "diesel" stations with the following results:

- 4 stations had pump stickers disclosing 6-20% biodiesel content
- 3 stations had no pump sticker, but staff indicated 11% biodiesel
- 4 stations had no pump sticker, and staff did not know the formulation

This situation reflects ignorance of current law, noncompliance, and poor communication/training about "diesel" products being sold. If one encounters a biodiesel sticker, it is possible to just drive to the next service station. If there is no sticker, this could be a "false negative." One needs to ask, and even then, the attendant may not know the answer.

It is apparent that the Illinois tax structure favors biodiesel blends of 11% and higher as the standard for "diesel." As a new '09 Jetta TDI owner, I have buyer's remorse that there are no pumps with <5% biodiesel in my area, and that I could be putting the longevity of my engine at risk through use of locally available "diesel."

On January 25 I wrote a letter to my VW salesperson, who in turn informed me that he had contacted a "tech guru" at VW's regional level. This person did not have an immediate answer and forwarded my issues to Volkswagen of America's Emissions Department. On January 28 my salesperson said an answer should be coming in 24 hours, and I am still waiting.

I absolutely love my new vehicle and want to care for it properly, but I have to admit that I am frustrated that I was not properly informed of the fuel specifications prior to the sale. In fact, my salesperson told me, "We've had good luck with the Speedways in this area." Guess what? When I've inquired at Speedway, they carry B11 biodiesel.

 

[Thunderstruck]

If your salesman was a reader of this web site, he already would have known that.

 

[Sip'n Diesel]

I thought BP Premier was discontinued several years ago. How do you know it's not regular D2 masquerading as Premier?

I would love to get my hands on the elusive BP Premier, but I'm afraid the 4 or 5 stations that used to have it in Illinois stopped awhile ago

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

[FONT=&quot]To 2009 TDI owners who share my concern about the lack of Diesel No. 2 in Illinois, I want to share a reply I received on March 2 from Brian Horsford, Director, Gas Stations/C-Stores, for the Meijer chain:
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[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] ". . . All Meijer locations sell conventional diesel and will continue to do so unless mandated differently by the government. Meijer has opted to add bio-diesel (an additional pump) where applicable due to demand and tax incentives. Currently in Illinois, we have one bio-diesel pump at our Urbana, Illinois site.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] "While we have not received any complaints about our Bio-Diesel, Meijer is about offering quality products and choices. We offer, Diesel, Bio-Diesel, E-85, Regular Gasoline, Kerosene, and even compressed natural gas at some locations. . . ."[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Given this confirmation from the corporate office, I will add Meijer's Chicago-area station addresses to the master list at the beginning of this thread. I encourage everyone to continue submitting locations of D2 pumps--regardless of brand/chain--to provide more options for 2009 TDI owners.[/FONT]

 

[lovemybug]

My last post was lost in the server malfunction. I had posted that for any '09 owners in the border area, the BP station in Genoa City, WI, next to hwy 12, advertises on their sign that they have no biofuel in their diesel. It's next to Richmond, IL, which is somewhat NW of Fox Lake and west of Antioch.

 

[littlebike]

I sent an email to Shell in this regard, here is their response:

Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.

In reference to your inquiry, Shell does not currently sell biodiesel in the Chicago market. The state of Illinois requires any retail diesel dispenser be labeled if it contains biodiesel, with a number that refers to the amount of biodiesel, e.g., B5, B20, etc.

We appreciate the opportunity to serve you in this matter and look forward to providing you with quality Shell branded products and service in the future.

Sincerely,
Shell Customer Care

 

[Thunderstruck]

You got further than I did-they told me "in reference to your inquiry, we're not able to provide you the lists of stations and the type of fuel that they sell.
The only information that we can provide you would be the lists of all stations."
I'm not going to call every fricking Shell station in the area to see what they sell, so I wrote them off at that point.

 

[Sip'n Diesel]

I sent an email to Shell in this regard, here is their response:

Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.

In reference to your inquiry, Shell does not currently sell biodiesel in the Chicago market. The state of Illinois requires any retail diesel dispenser be labeled if it contains biodiesel, with a number that refers to the amount of biodiesel, e.g., B5, B20, etc.

We appreciate the opportunity to serve you in this matter and look forward to providing you with quality Shell branded products and service in the future.

Sincerely,
Shell Customer Care

this is good information! does anyone want to volunteer to send the same questions to BP?

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

Speedway Update

Since it was recently observed that Speedway stations have been removing biodiesel notices from their pumps, I made an inquiry to the Speedway Super America LLC headquarters in Springfield, Ohio. Today I received the following reply from Jennifer M. Newman:

"Thank you for writing in regard to Bio Diesel and No. 2 ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel). At this point we are not selling Bio Diesel. However, we are continually evaluating this decision. We have no plans of going back to selling it at this time. Currently we only offer No. 2 ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) in all of our markets."
Sincerely,
Jennifer
Customer Service

The availability of non-biodiesel at Speedway expands the options available to 2009 TDI owners. I will update the master list.

Please continue to offer info on non-biodiesel pump locations.

UPDATE: As of late spring 2009, several Speedway stations have been confirmed to be selling 6-20% biodiesel blends. This information from the corporate office is no longer correct.

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

BP Inquiry

this is good information! does anyone want to volunteer to send the same questions to BP?

I contacted BP requesting a list of non-biodiesel pumps in the Chicago area. Specifically I requested info on where BP Diesel Supreme and Amoco Premier Diesel can be purchased. I am eager to find out, and will share any info I received.

I have visited BP stations with diesel pumps in Roselle and Carpentersville. Both stations have a single dedicated diesel pump with an Amoco Diesel branding (without Premier). When I asked the cashiers and managers about the type of diesel, no one had a clue. The pumps did not carry any biodiesel labels, although from my experience, I have found this is sometimes a "false negative" as label compliance is spotty.

Does anyone know if this Amoco Diesel represents the variety with the 51 cetane rating?

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

BP Inquiry

Does anyone have an e-mail or snail-mail address or phone number to get in touch with BP regarding Chicago-area locations of "premium" BP/Amoco diesel pumps? I have tried using the consumer comments site below on www.alittlebettergasstation.com several times and have received no reply:

http://www.bp.com/heliospower/genericformsdisplay.do?formId=7050152&categoryId=1000027&contentId=7051505

I would like to find out where to purchase the higher-cetane BP diesel fuels around here. Unfortunately BP station attendants have no clue what they are pumping!

 

[ChiTDI]

Best route is to catch the tanker truck driver when he's delivering. He'll show you a bill of lading with the delivery requirements. Haven't been able to get anything better than Amoco D2 for about two years around here. Mequon WI is about the closest I've found to have Premier.
Good BP D2 (ULSD) in NW Indiana without Bio is pretty standard there.

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

BP Update

Today I contacted BP Global Fuels Technology (800-841-5255) and obtained the following information:

1. Chicago-area BP stations generally carry No. 2 diesel, or winterized blends, which come from the Whiting, Indiana, refinery. This fuel has a minimum cetane rating of 40+. Pumps labeled "Amoco Diesel" dispense this standard minimum-cetane product (not 51 as reported elsewhere). Typically BP diesel is available as petrodiesel or low biodiesel (up to B5). On occasion, it is sometimes offered at a higher bio blend (B6-B20), in which case the pump is supposed to carry a disclosure label.

2. BP Diesel Supreme is most widely available at BP stations in Ohio. Its target is actually agriculture, construction and other industrial applications. While it is sometimes offered at service stations, BP has not targeted BP Diesel Supreme at passenger vehicles.

3. Amoco Premier Diesel is another product that BP mainly targets to commercial applications, such as the Chicago Transit Authority, though it sometimes finds its way to service stations. BP does have a list of Chicago-area stations that once carried APD, but they will not share the list since it is outdated. (The person I spoke to believed that APD is available at the BP in Downers Grove.) Once again, pumps labeled "Amoco Diesel" are not APD.

4. Future Product Development - There is now some early-stage discussion about developing a new BP-branded "premium" diesel fuel with a higher cetane rating (47+). No target date has been set for rollout. However, to add a dose of realism, the representative I spoke with predicted that this product would have niche appeal (e.g., TDIClub types), and that distribution would be a great challenge since "jobbers" (service station managers) would need to make a strategic decision between whether to offer a unique premium diesel vs. lower-cost standard No. 2. In most instances, he predicts that jobbers would elect for the cheaper standard diesel which would turn over more frequently.

So based on all this, it would be helpful for people to continue to submit those rare service stations where APD can be found. In addition, I think it would be a good idea to share consumer input with BP and other diesel marketers as to the type of fuel we want them to offer in the future.

 

[Sip'n Diesel]

AFAIK the Downers Grove BP gets the same D2 as everyone else

FWIW when I was at the auto show I went to the Shell display and asked why Shell offers V-Power diesel up der in "Canadia," but not here where we have 10X the population? they didn't have a good answer why but an employee claimed that Shell is considering/planning/developing plans to begin offering V-Power in the States. this would be a premium fuel, of course. I'll believe that when I see it

 

[SoBeItJetta]

Thanks for all your hard work so far in compiling this list. I have been concerned about this too since buying my Jetta TDI last month and reading the owner's manual. I may just have to make the short trek out to Meijer in Bollingbrook when needed. I'm wondering about the Speedway status, though -- I filled up for the first time at the Speedway on 159th St. in Homer Glen and the pump had a "may contain 6-20% biodiesel" sticker on it. Maybe they don't consider that the "Chicago area?"
Anybody know anything about Thornton's or Gas City? Next time I need to fill up, I'll try to check one of them and see if there are stickers on the pump.
There's also a Shell station near Lemont that posts diesel prices on their sign, but that doesn't seem to be coming up on their station locator - it's at the intersection of Archer Ave. and McCarthy Rd.

 

[Sip'n Diesel]

I've never used Thornton's or Gas City. I used Meijer several times over the summer, but probably never will again: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=238099

if I had an '09, I would stick to Shell (and maybe BP) exclusively in this area until there is more information available. I think BP has good fuel too, but it may or may not be B6-B20 depending on the station. I find it odd that Speedway stopped offering B11...

I sent an email to Shell in this regard, here is their response:

Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.

In reference to your inquiry, Shell does not currently sell biodiesel in the Chicago market. The state of Illinois requires any retail diesel dispenser be labeled if it contains biodiesel, with a number that refers to the amount of biodiesel, e.g., B5, B20, etc.

We appreciate the opportunity to serve you in this matter and look forward to providing you with quality Shell branded products and service in the future.

Sincerely,
Shell Customer Care

1. Chicago-area BP stations generally carry No. 2 diesel, or winterized blends, which come from the Whiting, Indiana, refinery. This fuel has a minimum cetane rating of 40+. Pumps labeled "Amoco Diesel" dispense this standard minimum-cetane product (not 51 as reported elsewhere). Typically BP diesel is available as petrodiesel or low biodiesel (up to B5). On occasion, it is sometimes offered at a higher bio blend (B6-B20), in which case the pump is supposed to carry a disclosure label.

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

SoBeItJetta, welcome to the forum . . .

Your question about Speedway highlights one of the frustrations about finding petrodiesel, namely station operators' lack of compliance in accurately labeling diesel pumps. Some stations are supplying biodiesel and fail to disclose this with a sticker. Other stations have reverted back to petrodiesel and have outdated bio stickers that were not removed. I would suggest that you inquire with your local Speedway manager, and follow up with the corporate office if necessary. Please let us know if this station is pumping bio, as this contradicts what the corporate office told me.

I own a 2009 Jetta TDI with nearly 4,000 miles, and so far I have used only Meijer and Mobil petrodiesel (at Illinois tollway oases). Meijer's corporate office has confirmed non-bio content. Mobil oasis cashiers have stated that they supply D2, which is also printed on receipts. Personally I have decided to save my fuel receipts just in case any future issues arise.

 

[Sip'n Diesel]

I have some Speedway receipts (one location in particular) from several months ago which say B11, when all Speedways were supposedly selling it. I stopped using Speedway when, to my confusion, the receipts started to say D2. this was around the time when winter was starting to get really cold. I suspect they stopped selling B11 due to the extreme cold temps, or possibly for other reasons

maybe I'll dig through the stack of receipts and try to pinpoint a date, or does anyone already know why they stopped offering B11?

 

[Sip'n Diesel]

Fwiw

here's a screen-shot of all Shell locations on my Favorites list @ http://www.gasbuddy.com

all of these stations usually have pretty competitive prices. except, for the one off I-90 in Elgin. don't go to the Elgin one! they are @ $2.99 AFAIK, diesel has probably been sitting in their tank since October. the Addison location is almost always more expensive than the Lombard location, which is right down the street. there are many industrial businesses and a major UPS facility nearby, so that's why I would disqualify Addison from being a "high volume" station

I suspect the "high volume" stations would be: both in Aurora, Lombard, and Mokena, as they are all located on major truck routes/interstate exits. I've never been stuck using a truck-sized nozzle @ Shell either, some have them but they all have auto sized nozzles as well. I don't go to Shell nearly as much as I used to (RE: 5% cash-back @ BP) otherwise I would have more locations on my list:

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

Shell Diesel

I contacted one of the Shell stations closest to me (2449 West Lake Street near Medinah Road in Addison) and inquired about their diesel product. The attendant checked and stated that it is a biodiesel blend. I asked the percentage of bio content, but she did not know.

I explained that my car requires no more than B5, so she spoke with another employee, who said that their biodiesel is the "same as all the other Shells in this area."

I put in a call to Shell (888-467-4355) and left a message asking for clarification of biodiesel content, as well as the current cetane rating in the Chicago area. Based on a previous post, it seemed that Shell was non-bio in this market, but now the local station is telling me otherwise.

In my experience, stations which offer biodiesel most commonly supply B11. However, I wonder if Shell might be using <B5 merely for lubricity benefits. If I learn more, I will post here.

 

[Jetta09Chicago]

Shell Update

Today I received two e-mails from Shell Customer Care regarding separate inquiries I submitted. My first question was on biodiesel content in the Chicago market:

"Currently the Chicago diesel product for Shell is just petroleum diesel, no biodiesel. The cetane rating will be at least 40."

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Shell's second reply addresses a separate question I raised about their cetane rating. There is an oft-quoted chart on the message boards here reporting a certain cetane value for Shell diesel.

"Shell is not currently marketing any premium diesel so we do not guarantee those properties for any diesel. In some northern areas of the US Shell will supply a winter diesel from October through March that contains an additive to improve cold weather performance."

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So these are Shell's corporate responses. There is apparently miscommunication between the corporate and retailer levels. For example, the Shell station at 2449 West Lake Street in Addison recently told me that they carry biodiesel (percentage unkown), "the same diesel sold at all the Shells in this area." However, the corporate e-mail claims what they are selling is petrodiesel. In any event, it does not hurt for us 2009 TDI owners to examine the pumps for biodiesel labels and also talk to the employees.

UPDATE: As of 5/8/09, this statement from Shell Customer Care is inaccurate. The Shell station at Oakton and Busse in Elk Grove Village displays pump stickers indicating 6-20% biodiesel.