Changed glow plugs, no start. Primed pump, checked fuses.

roninisc

Member
Joined
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Location
us
TDI
a3
2011, mk6, 8p

Hello all, Ive read this thread-- https://forums.tdiclub.com/index.ph...start-no-vcds-communication-wiith-ecm.512945/
-- but the symptoms dont quite match. I had my ECU changed out just last year, so I really hope it's not that again.
Was getting a bad plug error on VCDS (no plug light though) so changed it out this evening. While doing so, I decided to remove all the other plugs, clean, and test resistance. All were ok. Put them all back in at 11 ft/lbs.
The engine cranks but no start. Not a single ignition. There is good crank, batt is strong, I keep it charged w a trickle charger. It is about 68 degrees F. I was forced to remove the return fuel line when removing plugs and just a tiny dribble came out. I primed both front and rear pumps with VCDS 30 secs 6 times to no effect, I can hear both of them come on during prime test. I did take off the battery leads. I checked all fuses up top in the box next to battery, good.

I obviously had to run the second scan with engine not running, but with ignition on. Many of the errors are not relevant:
-The ABS and TPMS 'errors' will go away as soon as I drive it 50 feet.
-The immob and inst control mod errors have existed since mech put in the new ECU; no effect on driving.
-I think the HVAC is due to car not running?

Thanks!!
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Thursday,08,August,2024,
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

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Chassis Type: FM-AU35 (8P0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 4C 52 55
56 62 72 77
Mileage: 211570km-131463miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CBE) Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
Part No SW: 03L 997 030 R HW: 03L 906 019 CT
Component: R4 2.0l TDI G000AG 9983
Revision: 12H14--- Serial number: AUX7Z0JNFNB07H
Coding: 0350078
Shop #: WSC 51279 002 1048576
VCID: 3D273452717E64527C5-8068
VINID: 9D195B69159DA124402091870CACB91375

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 1 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 057 A HW: 02E 927 770 AL
Component: GSG DSG AG6 511 9334
Revision: 05351112 Serial number: 00001010260546
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 176BC6FA33826E02869-8042

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BG HW: 1K0 907 379 BG
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0106
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: 1150400F492A0003881102EB921C0042BF0C00
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 78A9E54612DC817A6F3-802C

1 Fault Found:
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 205
Mileage: 211572 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2024.08.08
Time: 01:28:01

Freeze Frame:
Count: 2
Count: 14
Count: 4096
Count: 16390
Count: 42240
Count: 0
Count: 256
Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 BN HW: 8P0 820 043 BN
Component: KlimavollautomatH09 0170
Revision: 000479 Serial number: 8P0820043BN
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 79AFE04225D6987210D-802C

4 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 245
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 245
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON

01301 - Control Module for Voice Recognition (J507)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 245
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON

01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 205
Mileage: 211572 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2024.08.08
Time: 01:26:26

Freeze Frame:


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 Q HW: 8P0 907 063 K
Component: BCM PQ35 M 107 0719
Revision: 00107 AF
Coding: 6E000A0FA01336E4287241E001100D4D407E62AA106DD128E40008840040
Shop #: WSC 51279 002 1048576
VCID: 42DD47AE04801BAA017-8016

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P1 955 119 F HW: 8P1 955 119 F Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AU350 H11 0050
Coding: 00DD13

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 910 557 HW: 8K0 955 559 A Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSEN H04 0003
Coding: 024C2D

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 P HW: 8E0 035 593 P
Component: SDAR SIRIUS H07 0160
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7K0590996
Coding: 0000100
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 36352B7E5448B70ABDF-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:. 8P0-919-475-7X1.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 919 475 M HW: 8P0 919 475 M
Component: PARKHILFE 4K H01 0140
Revision: 11001001 Serial number: 36891032101633
Coding: 000103
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 48C9558622BC31FADF3-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:* 8P0-959-655-10.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 Q HW: 8P0 959 655 Q
Component: Airbag AU1042 H07 0200
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003FC001C3AD Dataset Number: 8P0909602N 0004
Coding: 303142393041303030374A55304C38503053
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4_AU35.rod
VCID: 50F97DE6DA6CF93A873-8004

Seat occupied recognition:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P0 910 339 C HW: 8P0 959 339 C
Component: BF-Gewichtss. H02 0030
Serial number: 5810000R0000005493
Coding: 000000

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3572DRB40000CFA07A52

Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Serial number: 3582DRB40000CFA8630+

Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
Serial number: 35128RB400005EA5168O

Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Serial number: 35228RB400005EA8546S

Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 35547RB400005EE8D30.

Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 35647RB400005EE8D866

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K HW: 8P0 953 549 K
Component: J0527 H37 0070
Coding: 0014142
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 46D55BBE24A8278A2DF-8012

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 H02 0100

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 S HW: 8P0 920 982 S
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H01 0091
Revision: D0H01004 Serial number: 224NJ004002733
Coding: 0272288
Shop #: WSC 65536 645 577705
VCID: 49CF508235B6C8F2C0D-801C

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 211572 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2024.08.08
Time: 01:28:00


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 907 530 B HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H42 0311
Revision: H42 Serial number: 241010F1000173
Coding: 352102
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 323D176EB420AB2A917-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 S HW: 8P0 920 982 S
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H01 0091
Revision: D0H01004 Serial number: AUX7Z0JNFNB07H
Shop #: WSC 51279 002 1048576
VCID: 49CF508235B6C8F2C0D-801C

1 Fault Found:
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
000 - -

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199) Labels:. 8T0-035-785.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 035 785 HW: 8P0 035 785
Component: SG ext.Player H08 0100
Revision: 00000000
Coding: 020302
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 74B1D1760EB4E51A43B-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 F HW: 8P0 035 193 F
Component: RNS-E PU US H06 0210
Revision: 0000013S Serial number: AUZBZ7MD700654
Coding: 0209645
Shop #: WSC 08264 444 104937
VCID: 3333126A473AA2229A1-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 Q HW: 8P0 959 801 Q
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0101
Coding: 0001213
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 49CF508235B6C8F2C0D-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 232 3001
Revision: 00H17000
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: 313F1862BD269032E8D-8064

1 Fault Found:
03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid
000 - - - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 211572 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2024.08.08
Time: 01:28:00

Freeze Frame:
Battery Volts: 12.0 V
DD
Temperature: 23.0\B0C
Count: 2
Steering Angle: 0.00\B0
Count: 0
SteerAng n.Init


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 Q HW: 8P0 959 802 Q
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0101
Coding: 0001213
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 4ACD6F8E30B0C3EAC97-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 8P3 907 357 B
Component: Dynamische LWR H02 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 3C2139566A646D5A4BB-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 F HW: 8P0 035 193 F
Component: RNS-E PU US H06 0210
Revision: 0000013S Serial number: AUZBZ7MD700654
Coding: 0209645
Shop #: WSC 08264 444 104937
VCID: 3333126A473AA2229A1-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 F HW: 8P4 959 801 F
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0050
Coding: 0001176
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
VCID: 42DD47AE08801BAA017-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 F HW: 8P4 959 802 F
Component: Tuer-SG H04 0050
Coding: 0001176
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
VCID: 43D342AA179A12A20A1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
Part No SW: 8P1 862 336 HW: 8P1 862 336
Component: FSE_256x BT H41 0650
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005042229
Coding: 0011477
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 75B7EC7209CEFC12745-8020

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:33, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/11.8V. VIgn 11.7V)-----
 
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MrCypherr

Veteran Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2012
Location
Ontario
TDI
Mk6 Wagon
Got a quick video of it cranking over? Does it sound like theres any compression?
 

roninisc

Member
Joined
May 2, 2022
Location
us
TDI
a3
Dude, you have some magic internet mojo or something.
I must have cranked it 20 times at various points for decent lengths, even again this morning after letting it sit and extra-charging battery.. nothing. The outside temp now is even cooler than last night. As soon as I go again to take the vid, the thing turned over.

The only thing I did, again, was to remove the big relay 370 in the box and reinsert it. I've read that's the load reduction relay? which shouldn't play much of a role? (I always leave my lights off when starting anyway) Or is it something else and/or more relevant? I feel like it's probably coincidence, but who knows.
 

MrCypherr

Veteran Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2012
Location
Ontario
TDI
Mk6 Wagon
Wish I could say I had something magic LOL. Atleast it started hopefully it was just some air trapped somewhere and now its finally caught.
 
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