- Aug 15, 2007
- Gravenhurst, Ontario
- 96 A6 Avant TDI Quattro, 04 Jetta Wagon
the loss of mileage may also be because the lower mainland fuel stations switched to winter diesel, it has more d1 (kerosene) in it to prevent gellingI have recently switched from Extra Foods Gas Bar, who I understand use Diesel from ESSO. I recently replaced my Air Mass Meter and Glow Plugs, but was still getting poor mileage. I tried a local bulk fuel outlet (uses Shell Diesel) (BC government edict that Diesel must contain 5% Bio) and have been experiencing possibly 15% increase in mileage. This to me is remarkable. I asked what Cetane levels at both places, but was given the "sorry nobody knows" reply.
Although somewhat subjective, I feel that the car runs a lot more smoothly. I would like to know what levels are considered proper for my TDI. I currently have 240,000 KM on my Beetle and now I seem to have the zip it used to have. Are the Cetane levels possibly slipping throughout the market or the lack of having to post Cetane Levels is making producers a bit lax?
Love the information in this post keep it coming...
1999 Beetle TDI
2009 City Jetta
The refinery they are talking about in this document is close to where I live.Well, here's a link to a PDF with ALL sorts of info.
The cetane rating is 40.
I then further inquired about cetane ratings and lubricity level of Petro-Canada diesel, and received the following response:The Sunoco Gold is an Ultra Low Sulphur seasonal diesel with an up treated package that includes;
The diesel fuel sold at Petro-Canada is an Ultra Low Sulphur seasonal Diesel that has lubricity additive, anti-corrosion properties.
Both fuels meet and exceed the requirements of the diesel fuel national standard CAN /CGSB - 3.517 Automotive (On-Road) Diesel Fuel.
The diesel sold at Petro-Canada and the renovated Sunoco stations, that used to sell Gold diesel, is the same high quality seasonally adjusted Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel.
Petro-Canada diesel fuel must meet the National Standard CAN/CGSB – 3.517 Automotive Diesel fuel minimum cetane requirement of 40. However typical production is usually greater than 45 as there is blend to blend variation depending upon blendstock availability.
Lubricity additive is required by the National Standard CAN/CGSB – 3.517 Automotive Diesel for all Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel produced, and must meet a maximum of 460 um rating by the HFRR test rig.
So we DO get better diesel fuel in Canada than those sold south of the border.
Well, it's more expensive.
My normal e-mail address ends in [domain-name].caI should conduct some research on my local diesel distributors' cetane ratings in California. Stay tuned.
Does your quoted rate above include the 1 Jan 2013 increase of sales tax on diesel fuel to 9.67% for California?even CA has a cheaper rate on diesel fuel (75.3 US cents per US Gallon) excise tax than ON does (78.3 US cents per US GALLON).
There is no Federal Standard for Cetane levels because it is very much a temperture dependant formula, where the fuel will become cloudy, for that month of delivery. In Canada (according to a report from the Pembina Institute), there is only a Voluntary Mininum Standard of 40.
so in conclusion, you get Better Fuel , at a Better Price, with Less Road Tax in CA than you do in Ontario.ca.
Red River Co-Op fuels have changed their website.
Husky has discontinued its Diesel Max additive program spring 2014. Although many retail pumps still have a Diesel Max sticker on them, additive is no longer added.
Shell regular and V-Power diesel is the same, comes from the same tank. Stations that have V-power have additional additive injected at the retail pump, when you fill your car.
Any updated information or another thread somewhere?Sorry, this thread was sort of dead and I am not driving a diesel anymore so I am not really interested in updating it. The information in post#1 is four years old (last edited in 2010) so it sort of makes sense to start a new thread if there is enough interest in Canadian CETANE ratings.
Will someone take up the torch and start a new thread? I would be happy to put the link in post#1 of this thread.
edit: maybe there is already a thread for Canadian Cetane ratings? Let me know.