Castrol 5w40 TXT 505.01 No Longer Available?

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I work in the parts department at a Honda dealership, but drive a TDI...I just got off the phone with a friend down at a VW daler. They have officially switched from Castrol TXT 5w40 505.01 to Castrol SLX 5w30 505.01 ....I am getting a deal I am getting it for about $5.75 a quart.....even cheaper than a valvoline synpower or other....so I am going with that......I was using Rotella T Synthetic because nothing is available near me and the closest vw place is 40 minutes, but he is bringing it to me..what a deal......
 

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gab675 said:
I was using Rotella T Synthetic
In your 2004? With the PD engine? You should know better than that.

Doesn't matter if the nearest oil is 40 miles away, they have people now that will gladly drive it right to your doorstep dressed in Brown (UPS), Purple (FedEx), Yellow(DHL) or Blue (USPS).

Hope your lifters and cam are OK.

Get that Castrol SLX in there ASAP!
 

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i WORK IN THE PARTS DEPT AT A HONDA DEALER BVUT DRIVE AN TDI 04 ...A FRIEND OF MINE IS A VW PARTS MANAGER AND VW ENTHUSIAST. I TALKED TO HIM YESTERDAY THEY HAVE SWITCHED TO CASTROL PROFESSIONAL OE 5W30. IT IS FULL SYNTHETIC, AND 505.00/505.01/502.00 COMPLIANT.

BE CAREFUL THERE IS A SLX PROFESSIONAL THAT DOES NOT SAY OE (GOLD BOTTLE) THAT IS ONLY 505.00 AND 502.00...YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT IS SLX PROFESSIONAL OE.

HE CUT ME A DEAL..I GOT A CASE OF 6 FOR JUST OVER $34....
 

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gab675 said:
i WORK IN THE PARTS DEPT AT A HONDA DEALER BVUT DRIVE AN TDI 04 ...A FRIEND OF MINE IS A VW PARTS MANAGER AND VW ENTHUSIAST. I TALKED TO HIM YESTERDAY THEY HAVE SWITCHED TO CASTROL PROFESSIONAL OE 5W30. IT IS FULL SYNTHETIC, AND 505.00/505.01/502.00 COMPLIANT.
YES OK THANK YOU. YOU ALREADY SAID THAT IN YOUR FIRST POST.

EASY ON THE SPURS, FRIEND, YOUR COMPUTER CAN ALSO MAKE LOWERCASE LETTERS.

gab675 said:
HE CUT ME A DEAL..I GOT A CASE OF 6 FOR JUST OVER $34
Can your friend say how much it normally retails for us regular schlubs?

Also, you are aware of the requirement of 505.01 oil in your 2004 Jetta, I would hope - a sticker similar to this one under the hood of my 2006 Golf is most likely under your hood.


Shell Rotella T does not conform to 505.01.
 

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gab675 said:
I just got off the phone with a friend down at a VW daler. They have officially switched from Castrol TXT 5w40 505.01 to Castrol SLX 5w30 505.01 ...I am getting a deal I am getting it for about $5.75 a quart...
Please post the VW Part Numbers when you get the Oil (if there are VW part Numbers associated with the Oil)

Thanks
Spokane Walt
 

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I am going today to my parts department to buy a spare liter of the new stuff and I will post the part numbers.
 

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leicaman said:
I am going today to my parts department to buy a spare liter of the new stuff and I will post the part numbers.
Better yet, take a picture with that wild Voigtlander w/ 15mm f4.5 Heliar rectilinear lens! :D
 

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scurvy said:
Better yet, take a picture with that wild Voigtlander w/ 15mm f4.5 Heliar rectilinear lens! :D
I did take it with my canon g3. ;)

I went to my dealer today after confirming with the parts department of the new oil. Being the guy who likes to know what he is getting, I bought one quart (yes folks its in quarts) for future use and information.

The vw part number is ZVW-352-167-Q-DSP

Below are some photos







Most important the certifications....

 

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Looks like a 2nd generation 505.01 product. I have a quart and have sent a sample for a VOA.

Rod East VW in San Antonio sells it for $6.53 a quart. $5.55 with the preferred customer discount.
 

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Notice that at the bottom of the sticker.., it says "NOT for sale outside the Americas".

Wonder why? maybe it is not good enough for the european motors and such? or is it that "we" have been trained here to do oil changes more often than they should be done and thus, this oil will not cover/protect adequately?

Hmmmmm?

Oh, by the way..., thanks for the photos!
 

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I have been told the oil change interval is still 10k, so that is really not a big deal in my mind. That said, I will have the 5w40 that is in my passat currently tested before my next oil change. I will then have the new stuff tested after 5k. Andy, let us know what the VOA says please.
 

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I notice the bottle of SLX did not mention the word synthetic? Please tell me this is NOT mineral oil.... I hope it's at least a group III hydrcracked product...
 

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bikeprof said:
Castrol Profesional SLX/OE
5W-30
SL/CF

Notice that at the bottom of the sticker.., it says "NOT for sale outside the Americas".

Wonder why?
It's not listed by the API as SL/CF licensed: http://eolcs.api.org/
It's new - maybe there's a delay in updating their registered claims?

Hey Bikeprof - my parents lived down the road in Chromo for a couple years - before bolting for Vegas where heavy equipment is not needed to plow the driveway:) Pagosa Springs is great!
 

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I hope this clears some things up.

For the reasons unknown to me, Castrol markets their oils differently in the USA than the rest of the world, right down to the plastic bottles used and the brand names in many cases, except for maybe "GTX".

The oils in question here in this thread and in general on the forum for specs other than 502.00 and 505.00 have been sold as a new formulation by Castrol under the EDGE brand since the Fall of 2005 in the UK and the rest of the world.

Also, Volkswagen Driver Magazine previewed the new range of Castrol EDGE oils in their in their December 2005 issue, which I have mentioned to the TDi forum in early 2006. They specifically state that EDGE Turbodiesel 5w-40 covering the 505.01 specification too, replaced “Castrol SLX Longlife 2”, a 5w-40 VW 505.01 oil.


The following was taken the Castrol UK website.





Motor Oil and Lubricants Castrol UK and Ireland > Lubricants > Castrol Edge > Frequently Asked Questions



Castrol Edge Car Engine Oil FAQ's


Q. I have a bottle of Castrol oil in the boot of my car, supplied by my dealer; but it’s not Castrol EDGE why?
A. Castrol EDGE was specifically designed with the needs of retail customers in mind and offers a wider choice of products.
The comprehensive range of 7 products offers a complete solution whatever the customers driving style or location.
Dealers will continue to carry the grades appropriate to specific vehicle manufacturers.

Q. Which is the replacement for the SLX Longlife II oil?
A. This is the EDGE 5W-30 – the Longlife II oil was a 0W-30 viscosity to 503 00 / 506 00 / 506 01 specification – you’ll notice that as well as the new viscosity the specification on the EDGE 5W-30 is VW 504 00 / 507 00 – this is the latest VW specification for the VW Longlife oil.

The EDGE 5W-30 is suitable for all Audi vehicles on both variable and fixed servicing and VW cars on variable servicing with the exception of - VW R5 and V10 TDi engines (Touareg) and VW Commercial vehicles without fitted DPF (diesel particulate filters) – these must use the 506 01 specification oil (SLX Longlife II) – contact your VW/Audi dealer for this product.

VW cars fitted with PD diesel engines on fixed servicing (VW 505 01) must use the EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40.

Q. Can I mix EDGE with my previous oils?
A. Yes, you can use the latest EDGE products to top up the previously available products that the EDGE has replaced.

Q. I notice EDGE 5W-30 – can I use this for Ford engines?
A. No – this is specific oil for vehicles specifying the VW/Audi specifications and is not suitable for Ford engines which specify a 5W-30 semi synthetic (FRD 913B.)

For modern Fords, we recommend the use of GTX Magnatec 5W-30 only. The only exception is the Galaxy with the VW PD engine which should have Edge 5W-40 (VW 505.01 / FRD 917A specification.)

Q. My BMW needs Longlife 04 specification and I see this on EDGE Turbo Diesel 0W-30 – The name says “Turbo Diesel” - can this be used in petrol engines
A. If you have a requirement for BMW Longlife 04 specification in a petrol engined car, we would recommend the EDGE Sport 0W-40.

With regard to the EDGE Turbo Diesel 0W-30, you can use this in a petrol engine – as this also meets the Longlife 04 specification and the petrol specification is borne out by the ACEA A3 rating on the oil.

Q. How do you tell if a VW is fixed or variable servicing?
A. On the vehicle data carrier plate of the car will be the letters “QG1” or “QG0/2” – the QG1 refers to the engines on variable or “Longlife” servicing and these cars will use the EDGE 5W-30 The letters QG0/2 indicate fixed servicing and these cars will use the EDGE 0W-30.

PD (Pumpe Duese) diesel engines on fixed servicing will use the EDGE 5W-40 (505.01 specification)

Most recent VW and Audi cars (from 2000 onwards) are on the variable servicing schedule.





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I was a bit surprised when I picked up my car yesterday, from my dealer, for my 40,000 mile service. The first thing I noticed was the different oil used. My first instinct is to go to the web and search by part #. But it turned up no results. My second instinct was to go to Castrol's web site, and again no luck in searching. Then I came here, and found this thread again, and thank goodness. I've seen the part # listed here, but not when I searched. So, I'll relist it again, so the spyders of Google and Yahoo see it and this thread................

Castrol SLX Professional OE

VW part# zvw-352-167-q-dsp

Being sold in quarts instead of liters, I'm left with most of a quart, in my trunk, for top offs, because 5 qts isn't enough for a full fill............

I have 2 quarts of the "TXT" in my trunk as well. I wonder if they can be used at 50,000, with some of the new SLX?

Thanks guys for making me feel better on a Saturday, knowing nobody would be open till Tuesday.:)
 

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karlaudi said:
I hope this clears some things up.

For the reasons unknown to me, Castrol markets their oils differently in the USA than the rest of the world, right down to the plastic bottles used and the brand names in many cases, except for maybe "GTX".

The oils in question here in this thread and in general on the forum for specs other than 502.00 and 505.00 have been sold as a new formulation by Castrol under the EDGE brand since the Fall of 2005 in the UK and the rest of the world.

Also, Volkswagen Driver Magazine previewed the new range of Castrol EDGE oils in their in their December 2005 issue, which I have mentioned to the TDi forum in early 2006. They specifically state that EDGE Turbodiesel 5w-40 covering the 505.01 specification too, replaced “Castrol SLX Longlife 2”, a 5w-40 VW 505.01 oil.


The following was taken the Castrol UK website.





Motor Oil and Lubricants Castrol UK and Ireland > Lubricants > Castrol Edge > Frequently Asked Questions



Castrol Edge Car Engine Oil FAQ's


Q. I have a bottle of Castrol oil in the boot of my car, supplied by my dealer; but it’s not Castrol EDGE why?
A. Castrol EDGE was specifically designed with the needs of retail customers in mind and offers a wider choice of products.
The comprehensive range of 7 products offers a complete solution whatever the customers driving style or location.
Dealers will continue to carry the grades appropriate to specific vehicle manufacturers.

Q. Which is the replacement for the SLX Longlife II oil?
A. This is the EDGE 5W-30 – the Longlife II oil was a 0W-30 viscosity to 503 00 / 506 00 / 506 01 specification – you’ll notice that as well as the new viscosity the specification on the EDGE 5W-30 is VW 504 00 / 507 00 – this is the latest VW specification for the VW Longlife oil.

The EDGE 5W-30 is suitable for all Audi vehicles on both variable and fixed servicing and VW cars on variable servicing with the exception of - VW R5 and V10 TDi engines (Touareg) and VW Commercial vehicles without fitted DPF (diesel particulate filters) – these must use the 506 01 specification oil (SLX Longlife II) – contact your VW/Audi dealer for this product.

VW cars fitted with PD diesel engines on fixed servicing (VW 505 01) must use the EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40.

Q. Can I mix EDGE with my previous oils?
A. Yes, you can use the latest EDGE products to top up the previously available products that the EDGE has replaced.

Q. I notice EDGE 5W-30 – can I use this for Ford engines?
A. No – this is specific oil for vehicles specifying the VW/Audi specifications and is not suitable for Ford engines which specify a 5W-30 semi synthetic (FRD 913B.)

For modern Fords, we recommend the use of GTX Magnatec 5W-30 only. The only exception is the Galaxy with the VW PD engine which should have Edge 5W-40 (VW 505.01 / FRD 917A specification.)

Q. My BMW needs Longlife 04 specification and I see this on EDGE Turbo Diesel 0W-30 – The name says “Turbo Diesel” - can this be used in petrol engines
A. If you have a requirement for BMW Longlife 04 specification in a petrol engined car, we would recommend the EDGE Sport 0W-40.

With regard to the EDGE Turbo Diesel 0W-30, you can use this in a petrol engine – as this also meets the Longlife 04 specification and the petrol specification is borne out by the ACEA A3 rating on the oil.

Q. How do you tell if a VW is fixed or variable servicing?
A. On the vehicle data carrier plate of the car will be the letters “QG1” or “QG0/2” – the QG1 refers to the engines on variable or “Longlife” servicing and these cars will use the EDGE 5W-30 The letters QG0/2 indicate fixed servicing and these cars will use the EDGE 0W-30.

PD (Pumpe Duese) diesel engines on fixed servicing will use the EDGE 5W-40 (505.01 specification)

Most recent VW and Audi cars (from 2000 onwards) are on the variable servicing schedule.





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Did you all catch this:

"VW cars fitted with PD diesel engines on fixed servicing (VW 505 01) must use the EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40. "

So the 5W-30 is not appropriate for the PD engines, that was my concern!

--Nate

--Nate
 

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PDJetta said:
Did you all catch this:

"VW cars fitted with PD diesel engines on fixed servicing (VW 505 01) must use the EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40. "

So the 5W-30 is not appropriate for the PD engines, that was my concern!

--Nate

--Nate
this is not correct if that 5W30 carries the 507 certification :)
 

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The local Audi dealer has Castrol TXT. It was WAY expensive $8 a litre. Living in the hot south, I want a 5W40 (plus, Hubbys says 5W40 so 5W40 it is!). ;) Glad to have located a "local" source.
Glad that Impex still has the TXT with what the Audi dealership wanted, the shipping charge is no longer an issue.
 

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PDJetta said:
Did you all catch this:

"VW cars fitted with PD diesel engines on fixed servicing (VW 505 01) must use the EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40. "

So the 5W-30 is not appropriate for the PD engines, that was my concern!

--Nate

--Nate
I also was surprised when I went to my dealer today and they told me the 5w-30 SLX had replaced 5w-40 TXT. I understand they are both VW 505 01 certified, but with cam lobe wear being an issue on the PD engines, why would the VW dealers replace with a lower viscosity oil? I'm not sure I want to put this stuff in my engine until I get a satisfactory answer.
 

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IIRC two things: better additives and it's a "thick" 30
 

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Bob_Fout said:
IIRC two things: better additives and it's a "thick" 30
What is IIRC? And what do you mean by "thicker" 30W? Isn't there a standard where 30W viscosity means 30W viscosity? I'm debating whether to use my leftover stock of Mobil Delvac 5w-40 in my B5 Passat.
 

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IIRC = If I Recall Correctly.

Yes, Delvac 1 is fine. Might as well use it up before changing to another.

Since there is only 30w and 40w, something that's really a 39 gets called a 30....I think.
 

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SAE Engine Oil Grade @ 100 degress C.

SAE Engine Oil Grade @ 100 degress C.
Measured in cst (centistokes per second) (centistoke is a square millimeter)
Simply put. Volume of oil to gravity flow through an orifice in one second at a set temperature.

SAE 20W Min =5.6 Max = 9.3
SAE 30W Min = 9.3 Max = 12.5
SAE 40W Min = 12.5 Max = 16.3
 
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Right on Long Range. Each classification has a viscosity range associated with it - but you let the "W" slip in accidentally after the 20, 30 and 40.
 
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OilGuy said:
Right on Long Range. Each classification has a viscosity range associated with it - but you let the "W" slip in accidentally after the 20, 30 and 40.
Thanks for the polite correction OilGuy.
Yes its 5W-40 not 5-40W.
It's been a long day. Thanks again for the help.
 

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Ted Strong said:
I also was surprised when I went to my dealer today and they told me the 5w-30 SLX had replaced 5w-40 TXT. I understand they are both VW 505 01 certified, but with cam lobe wear being an issue on the PD engines, why would the VW dealers replace with a lower viscosity oil? I'm not sure I want to put this stuff in my engine until I get a satisfactory answer.
Whatever the viscosity on the bottle, that viscosity reference is for ambient [air] temperatures at engine start up and the "W" means winterized. Once the engine is at stable operating temperature the oil viscosity will be what ever the base stock viscosity is, as determined by the motor oil producer and/or the specifications the oil manufacturer is trying to meet. In our case, VW Approved Oil Quality Standards. The grade of Castrol oils mentioned here, be they TXT or SLX are to be found on the appropriate and current VW / Audi TSB's. So they are both good and fully compatible.

Why all the worry, when VW/Audi does all their hot weather testing in the American Southwest and the Sahara desert and at or above the Arctic circle for cold weather testing, not to mention under controlled conditions in Hot and Cold rooms back in Germany?

Just and FYI. Proformance USA sells Castrol SLX Professional OE for $8.87 per quart via the web. They're located in Idaho.

http://www.proformanceusa.com/mall/castrol_automotive.aspx
 
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