California Bans Biodiesel Storage in Underground Tanks

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If you're only goal in life is to carry a gun, come to Alaska. I'm the only person at my job who does NOT carry a gun. Many actually keep guns in their toolboxes, at work. There is no permitting process either.
 

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FL2AK-tdi said:
If you're only goal in life is to carry a gun, come to Alaska. I'm the only person at my job who does NOT carry a gun. Many actually keep guns in their toolboxes, at work. There is no permitting process either.
Sure hope you are good friends with all your co-workers:p . Who said anything about "....only goal in life is to carry a gun"?

I don't "carry" my gun on me. It is for home protection. :)
 

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my 12ga was for home protection, until i went home for xmas and someone broke in and stole it...... put a few things in perspective. until i bought a .45 i can take back and forth more easily :)
 

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Sure hope you are good friends with all your co-workers:p .
LOL, I'm not. There i only one person Iwork with who would consider a safety or security risk..a violent person. He has a lot of guns but he tens to use a coffee cup as his preferred weapon against co-workers. (True story)

Seriously, they're all pretty responsible gun owners.




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Who said anything about "....only goal in life is to carry a gun"?

I don't "carry" my gun on me. It is for home protection. :)
And that is your clearly-defined Constitutional right.
 

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And that is your clearly-defined Constitutional right.
I know, but if you check it, the Constitution is being slowly phased out since many in office see it a being out of date with their (personal goals).
 

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I know, but if you check it, the Constitution is being slowly phased out since many in office see it a being out of date with their (personal goals).
Stop with the Cheney-Bush bashing already. They're out of office. :p BTW: has anyone seen the original copy of the constitution since Cheney wiped his butt with it and have they restored it yet?

LOL, is this the new new NEW off topic thread now :D
 
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Stop with the Cheney-Bush bashing already. They're out of office. :p BTW: has anyone seen the original copy of the constitution since Cheney wiped his butt with it and have they restored it yet?

LOL, is this the new new NEW off topic thread now :D
Nick: I seriously don't mean to be bashing anybody in particular. I am too freaking old to worry about who/what/why. I'm just stating what is in the process of happening, and it's been happening for a very long time. Let's see, what was this thread originally about?

UST's/leaking/biodisel/California/banning storage. :D

BTW: that link to Money as Debt is one I have passed to my friends and family members. Good stuff and true.

Tony
 

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aja8888 said:
UST's/leaking/biodisel/California/banning storage. :D
and who's state is better/bigger(you win)...

aja8888 said:
BTW: that link to Money as Debt is one I have passed to my friends and family members. Good stuff and true.

Tony
It's amazing how many people enjoy the educational link. I've gotten half a dozen PM's about it and about as many thread comments. I still have a bruise from my chin hitting the floor.
 

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and who's state is better/bigger(you win)...
Nope nope. If we're talking bigger, I win. You can divide Alaska in half and still have two states bigger than Texas. Alaska equals 1/3 the land mass of the U.S.

If we're talking better, well, that is just too subjective of a criteria. Although I've lived in Texas and Alaska and hope never to return to Texas.
 

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Nope nope. If we're talking bigger, I win. You can divide Alaska in half and still have two states bigger than Texas. Alaska equals 1/3 the land mass of the U.S.

If we're talking better, well, that is just too subjective of a criteria. Although I've lived in Texas and Alaska and hope never to return to Texas.
Silly Mikey, EVERYONE knows Tejas is ALWAYS bigger, always better than anything else. Tejas is a state of mind :D
 

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Silly Mikey, EVERYONE knows Tejas is ALWAYS bigger, always better than anything else. Tejas is a state of mind :D
*Sigh* Let's not confuse anyone with the facts, shall we?
 

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All the people living in other states wish they had the same economy and the Calif weather, how could you even dare to compare the tundra Idaho to Calif, please be real, besides having the 7th largest economy in the whole WORLD, , this is a state that has all you ask for and more, rivers, lakes, snow, desserts, oceans, national parks, mountains, and the most cultural diverse state as well, Calif will always outshine any other state period, all I read here is jelousy about this beautiful state,, next time please read up get the facts on it before you even intend to bash it.
California appears to be suffering a drought in periods, or has a lower grammar requirement than the rest of the union.:rolleyes:
I assure you that the natural features within the geographical region covered by the state can be duplicated by any other region covering the same square miles. Not in one state perhaps, but within the same area most certainly.
7th largest economy? Compare to the eastern seaboard states from Maine down to Maryland, roughly the same size, and now how are you doing?
Desserts? Maybe. Deserts? Heck, there is a desert in Maine!
 

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Honestly, i think this is getting pretty dumb. Ive been all over the country, and found something about every state that was unique and that i loved. Maryland has its blue crab, Vermont has its maple syrup and polar bear swimming, Virginia has the skyline drive and its hard to beat for beauty in fall, the Carolinas have such beautiful women, Florida has the gulf, and awesome hurricane parties, Montana just has a magical way of making you feel free, Cali has awesome surfing and the redwood forests, Oregon manages to be a super friendly place despite the constant rain, New york........ well new york is a place you have to visit... and then take a shower :)

but yall get the idea. seriously, in a time when everyone is supposed to be patriotic about their country, all this infighting is pretty sad.
 

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Good message Mr. Grizzley. We are so lucky to be living here. I have travelled all over the world and there aren't too many places I'd rather live than in the U.S. If it was that bad a place, why do we have such an influx of people from other countries?
 

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grizzlydiesel said:
Honestly, i think this is getting pretty dumb. Ive been all over the country, and found something about every state that was unique and that i loved. Maryland has its blue crab, Vermont has its maple syrup and polar bear swimming, Virginia has the skyline drive and its hard to beat for beauty in fall, the Carolinas have such beautiful women, Florida has the gulf, and awesome hurricane parties, Montana just has a magical way of making you feel free, Cali has awesome surfing and the redwood forests, Oregon manages to be a super friendly place despite the constant rain, New york........ well new york is a place you have to visit... and then take a shower :)

but yall get the idea. seriously, in a time when everyone is supposed to be patriotic about their country, all this infighting is pretty sad.
I concur.
But you forgot Illinois: Where you too can be a Senator if you bid high enough.
Wisconsin: Beer, Brats, Beer, Cheese, and Beer.
Oklahoma: Indian run casinos, Toby Keith, Cary Underwood, and a new basketball team nobody's ever heard of.
Nevada: Vegas Baby! Then head to Reno and Tahoe to do it all over again.
Indiana: Let me think about that one...
South Dakota: Sturgis! Mt. Rushmore, Wall Drugs, Chief Sitting Bull, and the Black Hills.
Kentucky: The Derby, Mammoth Cave, Land Between the Lakes, Chevy Corvette assembly plant and museum, blue grass, and college B-ball.

Keep this going! More fun than piling on California, that's too easy. :)

This will be good research for future roadtrips in the TDI (keep the thread TDI related).
 

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NOW were talkin, we need to make a state by state checklist of the finer points worth noting for road trips in our TDi vehicles, brilliant suggestion cptmox.
 

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Lug_Nut said:
California appears to be suffering a drought in periods, or has a lower grammar requirement than the rest of the union.:rolleyes:
Give him a break, English is not their first language.
 

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Give him a break, English is not their first language.
159 years ago California became a state. There was no electricity. The government was broke. Almost everyone spoke Spanish. There were gunfights in the streets. So essentially nothing has changed, except back then all women had real boobs, and most men didn't hold hands. So much for progress.

;)
 

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visionlogic said:
159 years ago California became a state. There was no electricity. The government was broke. Almost everyone spoke Spanish. There were gunfights in the streets. So essentially nothing has changed, except back then all women had real boobs, and most men didn't hold hands. So much for progress.

;)
Candidate for post of the week right here.

May I have your permission to quote you on this around campus???

Oh you forget the women didn't have male reproductive parts either.
 

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visionlogic said:
159 years ago California became a state. There was no electricity. The government was broke. Almost everyone spoke Spanish. There were gunfights in the streets. So essentially nothing has changed, except back then all women had real boobs, and most men didn't hold hands. So much for progress.;)
I'm glad you put that wink at the end, 'cause Alabama isn't the model state for education, civil rights, etc... so I'm gonna talk up both CA and AL.

For TDI road trippers, AL has:
-Huntsville Space Camp
-A 'Bama vs. Auburn football game and tailgate party.
-Muscle Shoals
-Tuskegee Airmen Museum
-Good shrimp eatin' in Bayou La Batre
-Battleship Memorial Park and the USS Alabama
-Lynyrd Skynyrd on the Monsoon the whole time

As for CA, wow, where do you start:
-Sequoia National Forest
-Wine country Sideways style, only not in an old Saab
-Hollywood walk of fame
-Alcatraz and Fisherman's Wharf
-Catalina Island ...actually screw it, can't drive there! Great diving though
-Yosemite National Forest
-Disneyland for the junior TDIers
-PCH California State Hwy 1
-Grauman's Chinese Theater
-The cheesy Hollywood sign
-The even cheesier maps of the stars
-Death Valley
-Venice Beach
 

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Continuing CA (I lived there 12 years):

The Grapevine (I-5),
Wild Rose Motors,
Dodger Stadium,
The Queen Mary,
Santa Monica Pier,
Malibu,
Point Mago,
Lake Tahoe (NV),
The Crookedest Street (SF),
San Diego Zoo,
Salton Sea,
etc.:D

Now here in the great state of Texas:

NASA,
Astrodome,
The Texas Business Hall of Fame,
East Texas,
The Texas Quarter Horse Association and Headquarters (Amarillo)
Gilley's (Ok it's gone, but it was a hoot),
Annual Texas Gun Show,
Big rattlesnakes,
Spindletop,
etc.:D
 

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oh and i almost forgot....... i almost got to see this once, and its one of the biggest regrets in my life that i missed it.

FL - Cape Canaveral, shuttle launches.

my brother works for NRL, and had an experiment go up, so we flew down to watch the shuttle launch, we were at the 3 mile marker, a full mile or more closer than the regular civilian limit, and the shuttle launch was scrubbed due to a fuel level sensor acting up. one of the biggest let downs of my life. still want to get down to see, and photograph that.
 

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oh and i almost forgot....... i almost got to see this once, and its one of the biggest regrets in my life that i missed it.

FL - Cape Canaveral, shuttle launches.

my brother works for NRL, and had an experiment go up, so we flew down to watch the shuttle launch, we were at the 3 mile marker, a full mile or more closer than the regular civilian limit, and the shuttle launch was scrubbed due to a fuel level sensor acting up. one of the biggest let downs of my life. still want to get down to see, and photograph that.
When I was nine, a friend of the family got the three of us (my brother and sister stayed with my grandparents) into Canaveral for a shuttle landing. We were in/along the landing path, about four miles from the strip, when it came down.

Two, three window-rattling sonic booms and the most exhilarating sixteen seconds of a nine-year-old's life later it was all over, but I still remember how impressive that experience was. I can only imagine how more impressive watching it go up on a plume of fire would be.

Mom told me later that I would not shut up about it for weeks afterward. :D


Hum, as for road trip destinations in South Carolina, well, um... crud. We do have Fort Sumter and the Charleston Batteries, the city of Charleston itself. The Hunley is more than occasionally on display (it gets trotted out to show off the restoration work on a regular basis).

There are some fabulous Blue Ridge Mountain scenic drives to take, and if you're into hiking we do have the Foothills trail and portions of the Appalachian. There is some decent river kayaking to be done in the lowcountry (I simply cannot remember the name of that state park, and we were just there two months ago... something with a C).

South Carolina, unfortunately, is simply an agrarian, semi-industrializing state, not a tourist resort. :p
 

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visionlogic said:
159 years ago California became a state. There was no electricity. The government was broke. Almost everyone spoke Spanish. There were gunfights in the streets. So essentially nothing has changed, except back then all women had real boobs, and most men didn't hold hands. So much for progress.

;)
Nice post! Appreciate the humor.
 

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TurbinePower said:
South Carolina, unfortunately, is simply an agrarian, semi-industrializing state, not a tourist resort. :p
*cough* moonshine *cough*

which oddley enough was the first alternative fuel, the ford model T was designed to run on alcohol, namely moonshine, because the gasoline fueling infrastructure didnt exist. and anyone that owned a car had to make his/her own fuel. pretty cool eh? also where nascar got its start, moonshiners running the white lighting in the tank for an added boost to performance.
 
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*cough* moonshine *cough*

which oddley enough was the first alternative fuel, the ford model T was designed to run on alcohol, namely moonshine, because the gasoline fueling infrastructure didnt exist. and anyone that owned a car had to make his/her own fuel. pretty cool eh? also where nascar got its start, moonshiners running the white lighting in the tank for an added boost to performance.
I don't know if the moonshine runners were running it in their tanks, but they were certainly hauling a lot of it and making good money, at that time, for each run. Most of the first nascar drivers were moonshine haulers.
 

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oh and i almost forgot....... i almost got to see this once, and its one of the biggest regrets in my life that i missed it.

FL - Cape Canaveral, shuttle launches.

my brother works for NRL, and had an experiment go up, so we flew down to watch the shuttle launch, we were at the 3 mile marker, a full mile or more closer than the regular civilian limit, and the shuttle launch was scrubbed due to a fuel level sensor acting up. one of the biggest let downs of my life. still want to get down to see, and photograph that.
After a dozen or so launches, it gets boring. I saw the Challenger explode in real time. (IE not on a tv screen) I was watching it on the school football field. To show how boring and routine launches got by that time, I was the only one watching it. Everyone else was just inside doing math. SO I got to be th one to come in to calss and announce it. (My 15 mins of glory lol)
 
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