Buying ALH cylinder heads in Canada - where?

gretaTUNEberg

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Took my ALH head in for a rebuild at local machine shop... Resembled, checked timing multiple times... Used proper lock tools. Started, ran loudly (I assumed needed IP timing adjust), after a few minutes BANG BANG BANG and I have one totaled lifter and several others cracked. Checked cam timing, still good. Suspect machine shop isn't as experienced with TDI heads as they said, maybe trimmed valves wrong, stems left too long? Crank turned over by hand before starting with no obvious interference so I suspect the valves were "lightly" touching the pistons.

Anyways, I'll be looking for a new or rebuilt alh cylinder head - specifically that ships easily to Canada (BC). Recommendations?
 

Johhny04

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I think you would get a bigger response if you posted a WTB post in the private items for sale section. Try that too and see if more people respond.
 

TDI Jim

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Vince Waldon

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US currency exchange and shipping charges are big additional costs for importing US-based car parts into Canada, particularly with heavy items like heads, which will be why the OP has asked about Canadian sources.
 

JordanTr

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Can I ask which shop you tried? I’m also in BC and want to have a head done. Obviously, would love to use Frank but, as Vince said, oversized shipping, border, and currency exchange are pretty prohibitive.
 

TDI Jim

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And most rebuild shops in the USA or Canada do not do a good job of rebuilding tdi heads. I bought one from a member and the shop shaved too much off the bottom, and did a poor job on the valve guides, so the tensioner does not align and the engine has blowby through the oil fill cap. Just trying to help him not make my mistake.
No worries, we are all trying to help one another here.
 

Franko6

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Thank you all for your responses. I didn't know about Netparcel. I'll have to check that out. The first problem is Canada does not seem to care much how or why an item comes across the border, except there is a great opportunity to tax the blazes out of it... or not. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason except they get too busy to tax all of it.

The bigger problem is I am overwhelmed, most of the time. I decided some time ago I would only do the machine work, as that was already a lot to do. I try to get it all done, but it's not always possible.

GretaTUNEBerg, I don't think it will do much good to talk to the machine shop, as stripping teeth off of a belt indicates to me a very old belt. I suppose anything can happen, but I've never seen a belt strip for any other reason. I suppose a very poor off-brand name belt could do that... maybe.
It could be the belt can jump forward, wreck lifters, backward and wreck some more and as lucky as all this appears, maybe it got even crazier and ended up ON timing. Hard to guess, but you can't expect a belt with stripped teeth to work.

I can give you the measurements that should be correct for valve projection and valve stem height. The Bentley book includes those. Honestly, some of the measurements they use are overkill, as they have an .008" difference in valve stem height between the exhaust and intake, when the cam follower can allow for almost .060". Most don't know how much allowance there is in the lifters. I try to minimize the preload, not maximize it.

That said, you could have mashed a lifter set because the valve seats were cut way too much, would be my only other suspicion. That would increase the valve stem height, which would compress the cam followers. There is a lot of room for the lifters to compress, but they do have their limit.

Greta, If you like, PM or text my cell. Maybe I can help.
 

P2B

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GretaTUNEBerg, I don't think it will do much good to talk to the machine shop, as stripping teeth off of a belt indicates to me a very old belt. I suppose anything can happen, but I've never seen a belt strip for any other reason. I suppose a very poor off-brand name belt could do that... maybe.
It could be the belt can jump forward, wreck lifters, backward and wreck some more and as lucky as all this appears, maybe it got even crazier and ended up ON timing. Hard to guess, but you can't expect a belt with stripped teeth to work.
I don't see where the OP mentioned stripped teeth.
 

Franko6

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Hm, I got a couple of customers confused. Well, they aren't confused. I am. Excuse the information migration.

So, I will revise what I said. If the timing belt wasn't damaged, and I apparently got the part of stripped teeth wrong, then the guy working the head didn't know how to set valve stem heights, the valve protrusion right or both.

BTW: There was a mention that you can't get the valve height correct without the cam and lifters installed. This is not correct, for either a stock cam or a Stage II cam. However, if you go additional lift or get one of these off-brand Polish cams I've seen, you'll want to first make sure it fits the JOURNALS.

There are some cams like the Meister Cam and some Stage III cams, which I am not particularly fond of, that may require checking the valve stem clearances and clearancing the lifter bores.
 
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