Building AVF PD130 motor! Need Your help!

[whoo-kid]

Hi there!
I started a building this motor but In my country nobody knows how do that doing!
So I need Your help!
I want to get 250bhp and I have some questions:
What nozzles I need to use for this power? I'll use 2260 turbo and I don't know what to do with nozzles!
I find a "Firad" company, what can you say about them?
Or may be use bosio nozzles?
Thanks for answers!

 

[Evgeniy K.]

if some one have an info about difference PD130 vs PD150 injectors. As i saw at the forum - the nozzles a the same. But plunger size?

Just interested, why people with PD130 can't chip it like PD150 even with VB turbo?
Or they can, just they didn't now about it

The one fu**n big problem in our sity - there nowhere to go for right swap of Bosio R783 or Firad PD +50. Thats why only way for now - is maxed out the stock injectors.
Can they (PD130) give 70 mg/stroke like usually chipped ARL do? ARL has 60mg stock, and 25% more duration is 70 and its usually ok for EGT and long happy engine live. Who has an ARL with longer fuel duration and how the car health with it?
Thanks.

 

[Evgeniy K.]

yap...

 

[whoo-kid]

Up Up Up!

 

[hatemi]

AVF nozzles are more than capable of 70mg/stroke. They are bit smaller than in transverse PD130 and 150 tough. With the right turbo the stock nozzles can go to 180-200hp. After that they are just too small.

 

[ASHIHARA]

For 200hp u can use BV43 turbo from 2,0tdi PD 170hp,is p&p,but you need FMIC to lower EGT.This is the cheap and safe version.
I think on long term 250hp is to much for stock engine,so u need to upgrade the internal`s,oil and diesel cooler,nozzle,exhaust;cost`s are getting to high for extra 50hp in my opinion.

 

[Lofty86]

BV43? Only turbo I can find is the GT1749VC.

What year is the BV43 mate?

Dave

 

[ASHIHARA]

You can find BV43 on 2,0tdi PD BRD and BVA 05-08;try on ebay,i bought mine with 250£ from a car with 40k miles and i sold my turbo with 200£,so it cost my only 50£

 

[Lofty86]

Ah, BRD is the engine code i was looking for.
So if its 170hp, 2L and engine code BRD its the right turbo? And its plug and play or is there some downpipe work and/or IC piping?
This is really helpfull. Thanks. D

 

[whoo-kid]

In plans:
FMIC
oil cooler
GT2260 turbo
new intake manifold
new downpipe & exhaust manifold
Tune car to 200hp with stock nozzles and see all mistakes in building process, after change nozzles to R520 or something like this and tune car to 250+hp!

 

[ASHIHARA]

Ah, BRD is the engine code i was looking for.
So if its 170hp, 2L and engine code BRD its the right turbo? And its plug and play or is there some downpipe work and/or IC piping?
This is really helpfull. Thanks. D

The part number for BV43 is 03G145702H,engine codes BRD and BVA.
Is p&p,no modification requierd to downpipe,exhaust manifold,oil pipes or IC pipes.

BV43 vs VNT17

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[Evgeniy K.]

Thanks. But one more thing - the ARL150 motor makes 58mg in stock Chip.
Normal tune for them are 70 mg. If you make more - the duration will be too much for normal EGT head stress.
I didnt saw an ASZ130, but if it makes, say, 46mg stock - normal duration will be only 56mg. If w want 70mg - we need or:
1. Bigger nozzle
2. Longer duration.
1-st - is good, but with problem to plug and calibrate them.
2-nd - is no good. Or some one makes duration for 70mg and all is ok for many miles?

The second question - if this Pd130 nozzles are the same size as PD150 - then PD150 is really PD130 with longer duration - 46 vs 58?

 

[Evgeniy K.]

In plans:
Tune car to 200hp with stock nozzles and see all mistakes in building process, after change nozzles to R520 or something like this and tune car to 250+hp!

mmm.... R520 is for HPFP engines like mine. You have an PD engine.
You can use Bosio R783, but i didnt immagine where you will calibrate them in our sity or whole country.

 

[Lofty86]

Amazing help there, thank you.
So what does the BRD turbo make on a stock PD130 engine?

And, pictures tell a thousand words, so also, thank you for that.

May be a cheap temporary turbo for me so I can save for a 2260.
D

 

[Lofty86]

Whats the 140 BRD turbo like?
Think iv just won one on eBay. Part number 03G 253 010 J. (dont know why so large?? Cut and paste from eBay!)
Better than the AVF turbo?

Also, is the actualator electric? Theres a socket on it.

D

 

[hatemi]

Bkd turbo has the same internals as avf and asz.

And asz has the exact same nozzles as arl and bpx (iirc)160hp engine. The difference is in turbo and duration.

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[ASHIHARA]

Whats the 140 BDK turbo like?
Think iv just won one on eBay. Part number 03G 253 010 J. (dont know why so large?? Cut and paste from eBay!)
Better than the AVF turbo?

Also, is the actualator electric? Theres a socket on it.

D

BKD engine is 2,0tdi PD 140hp and i dont think he is a big improvement over VNT17.
You don`t need to use the electric actuator,so live it,he have also vaccum pipe which you have to use it.

 

[Lofty86]

Doh, I ment BRD, not BKD.
Means I just bought the wrong one. Ha.

Anyone want a BKD turbo? and a 1.8T 20V turbo?

Paid £50 for the pair.
Dave

 

[Lofty86]

Delete this post, im chatting rubbish and c0cked is up.

 

[Evgeniy K.]

Bkd turbo has the same internals as avf and asz.

And asz has the exact same nozzles as arl and bpx (iirc)160hp engine. The difference is in turbo and duration.

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Hatemi, so ARL is the same ASZ, but with VB at 1.45bar and longer (58 vs 46) duration? Thats mean, that if i set 46 ASZ duration to 58mg, plug the VB at 1.45bar - i will have an ARL?

 

[ASHIHARA]

You need also a FMIC to have the ARL

 

[hatemi]

Yes. With 58mg, VB and FIMIC your ASZ will become stock ARL

 

[Vintz]

Hi Guys, I'm looking to put a BV43 on an AVB PD100 block with stock injectors for now. Will be putting in ones from a PD150 soon. The current turbo has an intigrated manifold. What manifold will I need to fit to get the BV43 on there? Also, after I fit the PD150 injectors, will I need to change the oil cooler at the same time? Will be fitting an FMIC at some point too. What BHP would I be looking at?

Cheers.

 

[ASHIHARA]

Are u sure u have a intigrated manifold?The far us i know,longitudinal engines don`t have intigrated manifold,only transversal engines.
With BV43 and ARL injectors u can look at around 210hp,maybe 220hp,but not more,because of the turbo limits.FMIC is a must have and a bigger oil cooler helps.
Anyway,210hp i think is to much for stock AVB,because is not so strong like pd 130hp and 150hp,170hp is more apropiate for stock(internals) AVB.

 

[hatemi]

Even stock AVB can withstand way past 200hp with stock internals if its not beaten up. You can destroy stock engine with abuse, but you can also have almost 300hp and still not blow up. Its pretty strong engine when properly maintained and used.

 

[ASHIHARA]

It`s more probably to destroy a chiped engine like stock one,especially when the power is doubled;they are a lot of this stock engines on the street with more 300k km which are running fine,how many did u see with doubled power stock engine with this sort of km?
Btw,the question is about manifold

 

[Vintz]

260KM and counting Currently getting 52MPG.. No complaints here.. Will have to take a better look at the turbo. But when I last looked at it I'm almost 100% it was intigrated. If not, HAPPY DAYS!

Right now, I'm looking to hit around 220BHP, nothing more. Will upgrade the internals a but when I get the change and start heading to something a bit more, fun Any advice on this?

It's currently 155ish with very little effort... Easy block to mod, even if it is a bit pricier then the 130/150 units.

 

[ASHIHARA]

Take a look again,because i`m sure is not intigrated,so you just need the turbo;but be careful,you need it for longitudinal egines,not transversal!,which you can fiind only on audi a4 and a6 with 2l pd engines.

 

[Lofty86]

Take a look again,because i`m sure is not intigrated,so you just need the turbo;but be careful,you need it for longitudinal egines,not transversal!,which you can fiind only on audi a4 and a6 with 2l pd engines.

So the transverse turbo wont bolt on the longditudanal engine?
D

 

[bhodgkiss]

The AFN, avf and awx longitudinal engines all have the right manifold for the bv43. The manifold is the same on all 3.
Bought my bv43 on ebay for 110 delivered off a 40k mile audi its in lovely condition too. Even got the egt sensor with it.
There are a few about especially if you look on German ebay.

I don't think the bv43 comes on transverse engines?