BMW 328d

[PHAT-DUB]

I was in the mall today and saw a 2014 BMW 328d wagon M sport package. I drooled instantly.

 

[salo65]

I saw it at the LA auto show and did the same!


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[gearheadgrrrl]

Twice the price, worthless warranty, snooty...

Ya, I looked at the 528D too... Sticker was twice what I just paid for a new JSW, salesman wouldn't even talk to me. And while VW happily fixed the rust out on my 10 year old Golf TDI, BMW has yet to reimbuse me for several thousand dollars in repairs on my BMW bikes.

No wonder BMW didn't make my short list when I was new car shopping...

 

[nikhsub1]

No manual

 

[tditom]

Ya, I looked at the 528D too... Sticker was twice what I just paid for a new JSW...

There is no 528d. You probably are referring to the 535d (straight 6, 255hp, 413 lb-ft)

 

[caper]

it's a great car and even the price is not bad, only one problem, the manual is not offered.
the only manual disel powered wagon in north America is offered by VW,.

 

[jay_fyp]

No manual

Stinks, but that is the American market for you, but I read somewhere that the torque out-put was to great for manual, which is ridiculous. Plenty of vehicles with more torque than this car with a manual transmission.

 

[03_01_TDI]

Maybe in 4 years when the used price is half what they sold for new. Gotta love the suckers who pay full price for these cars new then trade in every couple years.

 

[Livefreeordie89]

Maybe in 4 years when the used price is half what they sold for new. Gotta love the suckers who pay full price for these cars new then trade in every couple years.

If you can afford it, is it being a sucker?

 

[PHAT-DUB]

If you can afford it, is it being a sucker?

Nope!

 

[chudzikb]

Prices on the BMW's are heart stopping. I love my E46 and would consider a diesel if they 1) had a dipstick, and 2) had real tires with a spare. Oh and did not cost what you can buy a house for in many places...

 

[Jetter_Sprinta]

Hate that stupid run-flat crap.

I have to say, this wagon has my interest... first time since '96 in diesel terms... it has all the stuff I love in my '07 Audi A4 (gasser) with a nice non-package option list. European delivery, better seats and divest 3 or 4 VWAGs, I might be convinced.

 

[msantram]

i went to a BMW dealer this afternoon to check out the 328d wagon. I was in a mostly empty dealership for ten minutes with not a single approach or hello from any of the salesmen. A sales guy finally chatted with me and showed me the gasser version. Nice car, the seats were the best feature IMHO. But no where near worth the price tag.

I chatted briefly with a gear head customer about the 328d. He was explaining the differences in philosophies btwn MB & BMW. A BMW is more of a driver's car he said to his wife as she sat in the 328d... Perhaps, so long as said driver thinks BMW's tiptronic/DSG is "manual".

Funniest thing he said to me as the salesman approached, "Everything with a BMW can be fun, except anything to do with the dealer"

 

[john.jackson9213]

Prices on the BMW's are heart stopping. I love my E46 and would consider a diesel if they 1) had a dipstick, and 2) had real tires with a spare. Oh and did not cost what you can buy a house for in many places...

Where are you going to buy a house for $42K? Detroit? Tijuana?

Lease the BMW 328D for $399/month. If you don't like it, then walk away at the end of the lease. Makes lots of sense as a business expense.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

It's not quite that inexpensive. You have to come up with nearly $4K at signing, that's another $100+ a month. Don't know if that includes gap insurance, which would be important. If you're writing it off maybe it doesn't matter.

I like the 328d, and if they had a wagon with RWD not AWD, a manual transmission, and no run-flat tires I'd be interested. But as it sits, no thanks. I'll stick with my Golf.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

It's not quite that inexpensive. You have to come up with nearly $4K at signing, that's another $100+ a month. Don't know if that includes gap insurance, which would be important. If you're writing it off maybe it doesn't matter.

I like the 328d, and if they had a wagon with RWD not AWD, a manual transmission, and no run-flat tires I'd be interested. But as it sits, no thanks. I'll stick with my Golf.

 

[n1das]

Prices on the BMW's are heart stopping. I love my E46 and would consider a diesel if they 1) had a dipstick, and 2) had real tires with a spare. Oh and did not cost what you can buy a house for in many places...

I don't know about the engine in the 328d but the 3.0L engine in my 535d DOES in fact have a dipstick. It is not labeled and is undocumented but it's there.

 

[n1das]

It's not quite that inexpensive. You have to come up with nearly $4K at signing, that's another $100+ a month. Don't know if that includes gap insurance, which would be important. If you're writing it off maybe it doesn't matter.

I like the 328d, and if they had a wagon with RWD not AWD, a manual transmission, and no run-flat tires I'd be interested. But as it sits, no thanks. I'll stick with my Golf.

They DO! the non-xDrive version is RWD. xDrive is BMW's badging for their AWD system. You can get the 328d with or without xDrive.

As for the transmission, I for one have been a diehard manual driver for many years but I've found the 8-speed ZF auto in my 535d to be one auto tranny I really DO like. It's not a DSG type. It is a conventional torque converter and planetary type of transmission.

I don't know the reason(s) for the car being being auto-only but I suspect it's for emissions certification because they can play games with how the transmission shifts for low emissions. Can't do that with a manual tranny. It's all about emissions, emissions, emissions. Performance and mileage be damned.

 

[German_1er_diesel]

Stinks, but that is the American market for you, but I read somewhere that the torque out-put was to great for manual, which is ridiculous.

You can buy the same car in Europe with a stick. (which most people do, automatic has 25-30% take rate)

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

They DO! the non-xDrive version is RWD. xDrive is BMW's badging for their AWD system. You can get the 328d with or without xDrive.

Sedan only. Wagons are all xDrive.

 

[chudzikb]

Where are you going to buy a house for $42K? Detroit? Tijuana?

Lease the BMW 328D for $399/month. If you don't like it, then walk away at the end of the lease. Makes lots of sense as a business expense.

Not in CA, that is for sure! But, in just about any rundown PA town, houses can be had for that. Not that you would want to live there, but, that was not the question.

 

[VeeDubTDI]

If run-down beater houses is your style, then you probably wouldn't be looking at BMWs in the first place.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

What if you park a 42K BMW in front of a 42K house? Would the car be stolen or the house burglarized? I'd bet on the former.

 

[rparnel1]

The 328d does have an oil dipstick. It is unlabeled and has no special color, but it is there on the drivers side towards the rear of motor.

The wagon is x-drive only when it has the diesel option and all the 328d's are autos; no manual 328d's offered in the US.

 

[tditom]

...The wagon is x-drive only when it has the diesel option ...

Wagon is only offered as AWD over here- gasser or diesel

 

[SBAtdijetta]

It's not quite that inexpensive. You have to come up with nearly $4K at signing, that's another $100+ a month. Don't know if that includes gap insurance, which would be important. If you're writing it off maybe it doesn't matter.

I like the 328d, and if they had a wagon with RWD not AWD, a manual transmission, and no run-flat tires I'd be interested. But as it sits, no thanks. I'll stick with my Golf.

Ditto... at that price level I'm not buying it/or leasing it. I don't think it is worth it. I have a slightly different approach. I'm going get a used (don't care if I buy a new car ever again) Merc or BMW, and then wait until the new Audi's are used and at a reasonable price level for me, and then I'll move over to one hopefully with a manual gearbox.

I'm shopping for a newer diesel and my options are... auto, and auto lol... I'd really like the 335d or e320 CDI in manuals but I know the 335d only came in auto, and I think that is true for the e320 as well.

 

[truman]

If the choice is a manual gasser or automatic diesel, I'll have to take the gasser. I don't have money to burn.

 

[chudzikb]

If run-down beater houses is your style, then you probably wouldn't be looking at BMWs in the first place.

Just using for comparison. The run down beaters are popular with those that buy and then rent, you know the slum lords. (of which I am not)

And it warms my heart to hear that the 328d has a dipstick! (I saw one on the last generation BMW diesel) None of the gassers do anymore for BMW's. I still think BMW has gotten away from its performance roots, but, it must know what it is doing as it is making $$$$.

 

[Wankel7]

I find it interesting that the diesel is only $1500 more than the gasser.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Yes. And the least expensive E=class M-B is the E250 diesel. VW needs to take note.