2000alhVW
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Planning out my suspension overhaul in conjunction with my 5 speed swap. Struts, springs, bushings, ball joints, tie rods, etc.
I'm having trouble figuring out what coil springs I want. The Moog 81134 springs keep popping up everywhere... Rockauto, IDparts, here on the forum, etc. And it's obvious because they are a firmer spring rate while also being $40 for the set.
but...what if I don't want lift? This is the only non-truck forum I've ever come across where people actively seek out options to lift their vehicle. Quite odd if I may be honest.
Don't get me wrong - I am not a "low life" type of guy. I abhor 'slammed' cars and the whole stance scene. But I also find this much fender gap very unattractive... The front is..."swallow-able" for me, but the rear is truly awful IMO.
Borrowed from Beef on a Budget thread - http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=313121
What can I do here? I understand I do have options such as Eibach lowering springs or whatever, but $300 for springs is a tad rich.
I'm looking for something in similar height with better spring rate. I would also be okay with a slight drop. I tried to "hack" OE GTI springs or such, but all that shows up is the Moog 81134s in Rockauto.
Also, I got the Bilsteins listed on Rockauto for the "sport suspension" part# 22045751
Part #22045744 for "standard suspension"
Everywhere I look says they are identical, including Bilstein's product description, but when looking at the Bilstein specs catalog, the heights are shown to be different.
Check it out:
Sorry for poor resolution, I tried to zoom in here:
Alternatively, you can Google "22045744 vs 22045751" and click on the 3rd link "Product Sheet" from Bilstein. I can't link because it's an Excel file.
5744 has a height of 6.8", and 5751 has a height of 6.1"
Due to price, I'm likely just to go ahead and do the Moogs, but with my limited knowledge of suspension components, I would assume it's a bad idea to use a shorter strut with a longer spring, no?
I'm having trouble figuring out what coil springs I want. The Moog 81134 springs keep popping up everywhere... Rockauto, IDparts, here on the forum, etc. And it's obvious because they are a firmer spring rate while also being $40 for the set.
but...what if I don't want lift? This is the only non-truck forum I've ever come across where people actively seek out options to lift their vehicle. Quite odd if I may be honest.
Don't get me wrong - I am not a "low life" type of guy. I abhor 'slammed' cars and the whole stance scene. But I also find this much fender gap very unattractive... The front is..."swallow-able" for me, but the rear is truly awful IMO.
Borrowed from Beef on a Budget thread - http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=313121
What can I do here? I understand I do have options such as Eibach lowering springs or whatever, but $300 for springs is a tad rich.
I'm looking for something in similar height with better spring rate. I would also be okay with a slight drop. I tried to "hack" OE GTI springs or such, but all that shows up is the Moog 81134s in Rockauto.
Also, I got the Bilsteins listed on Rockauto for the "sport suspension" part# 22045751
Part #22045744 for "standard suspension"
Everywhere I look says they are identical, including Bilstein's product description, but when looking at the Bilstein specs catalog, the heights are shown to be different.
Check it out:
Sorry for poor resolution, I tried to zoom in here:
Alternatively, you can Google "22045744 vs 22045751" and click on the 3rd link "Product Sheet" from Bilstein. I can't link because it's an Excel file.
5744 has a height of 6.8", and 5751 has a height of 6.1"
Due to price, I'm likely just to go ahead and do the Moogs, but with my limited knowledge of suspension components, I would assume it's a bad idea to use a shorter strut with a longer spring, no?