Aux Fuse/Relay Box Install, Show and Tell

KrashDH

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I figured I would consolidate this into its own thread instead of updating the "what did you do to your Mk4.."

When I did my headlight retrofit, I custom wired the inside headlight harness for the functionality that I wanted it to have with all my extra goodies. I put led bulbs in the projector housings for the fog lights, but it was a very back burner project

Now that I wired the gauges in and ran stuff through the firewall, decided it would be a good time to run the fog light trigger wires and such too.

On the euro switch, fog position 1 will be headlight fogs, and pos 2 will be the in bumper amber/yellow fogs. I could have been done, but I decided I didn't want relays all over the place. Plus I already have some extra wiring from my morimoto harness, the under hood lights, and the addition of a BEW lift pump.

I ordered an auxiliary fuse/relay box and am going to send both sets of fog lights throught relays in there (even thought both draw such little current). Its got spots for non relay fused power as well, so I'll send my under hood lighting to there as well. Headlight ballasts im going to keep directly connected to battery power (and the ground) just for peace of mind. Fuel pump power I'm not sure if I'll keep it directly to battery or go off the new aux box, I'll make a game time decision.

Aux box is supplied by 2x 12ga wires. I'm going to install an inline 40a breaker between batter pos and the aux power since the 2x 12ga wires I'll tie together in parallel can safely handle that. The side going from the battery to the breaker will have 8ga which can also handle 40a.

So for some reason if something goes bad, the individual circuits are all protected by fuses and itlf it goes really bad, the breaker will trip (it's resettable)

I don't plan anything with massive current draw to be on this car, so 40A at the same time is plenty. I think the bumper fog light bulbs I have draw like 3A if that, and the ones in the actual headlight housing are around 1A. The under hood lighting is about 1A, the fuel pump is (?). I'm well within the parameters.

Here we go.

While I was waiting for things to get in, I made my Euro trigger harness that goes from the back of the switch to whichever relay trigger wires. I'm using the "front" fogs for the in-headlight trigger and the "rear" fogs for the bumper fogs that are on the way:



Here's the pins inserted, looking back I probably shouldn't have put the shrink tube on there, it's got a glue adhesive liner and they were a snug fit in the slots:



I ran the wires through the firewall with the other wiring from my gauge install, ran it along the parking brake cable housing, and terminated it between the gap between the battery and airbox. This is where I decided everything will come together:



I searched for a while for what fuse/relay combo I wanted to mount in there. I knew where I wanted it to go, so I found this pre-made box on Amazon and the dimensions seemed like they would work well:



This car isn't going to have a ton of accessories. Both sets of fogs are going to be run on relays, and there will be 2x spares if I ever need them for other goodies.
As can be seen above, it also has the fused slots if you just want power out to an accessory. This was nice for me because I have some underhood lighting that could be run on a standard fused slot, and I opted to move my lift pump power over here too to get it off of the battery. I left my ballasts for my HID's connected directly to the battery since if for some reason the breaker ever tripped, I'll still have headlights (but no lift pump, so I may run it like this for a while but if it's a problem, I'll revert back). I shouldn't have any reason to trip the 40A breaker though.

Now, since I removed my catch can setup, that freed up the left side of the battery, which was holding the catch can bracket prior. I decided a similar bracket could be utilized for this box setup, so I repurposed the L brackets I made for the catch can, added a thing metal "book end keeper" for stability, then added a layer of kydex (used for making holsters) on top of that so the fuse box was against plastic rather than metal. Probably didn't need to be, but this worked out well:



The 2x middle holes are from my catch can mount, the new ones in the L brackets are for the spacing of the fuse box mounts:



After a bunch of futzing around, I had my basic assembly together. You can see the resettable breaker on the top left of the image:



Ran the 2x power supply wires to the breaker on the bench for ease of install:



After removing the bottom-most relay, I was able to sneak the L bracket down through the gap between the coolant line and the battery, and slide it underneath the loosened battery. I tightened the battery back down, and now you have a solid mount that isn't going anywhere:



Test fitting to see if I could get the cover in there. I did as you can see, but it took some Tetrising around the coolant line:

 
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KrashDH

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Time to build my positive jumper wire from the battery, 8ga. Measure, crimped the ends in the appropriate orientation:



...and install on the battery post to the breaker:



I won't bore you on the running of the wiring, but it's all enclosed in anti chafe wrap. I'll need to get back in there once my bumper fogs get here, so I wanted to make it easy to get back in the loom. As can be seen, all the fuses are out of the box except the ones currently being used:



A top view of the wiring run with no cover on the box:



This is basically an image for me so I can remember how I snuck this thing up under, and in there:



...and finally a few angles of the completed wiring project:





Zoomed out:



Doesn't do much justice, but here's the result from the euro switch in position 1 for the headlamp fogs.
I'll update this thread once I get the yellow/amber bumper fogs installed.

 
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J_dude

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VERY nice dude. I'm gonna file this away for later 😄

(I think I would've saved the kydex for, well, some project the needs kydex, though. Last I checked that stuff is expensive!)
 

KrashDH

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VERY nice dude. I'm gonna file this away for later 😄

(I think I would've saved the kydex for, well, some project the needs kydex, though. Last I checked that stuff is expensive!)
I tried molding the L bracket first from the sheet, but didn't want the base any "thicker" than the previous version. So I cut just the vertical part off and used it for the mating interface.

Honestly, I originally bought the kydex for forming around my mountain bike down tubes for rock protection. Made a couple and had some leftover
 

KrashDH

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Just wanted to follow up on my fog light install.

Got some "cheap" bumper projector fog lights. Looked the style, figured I'd give them a go.

Installed:



Headlight fogs and runners (switch pos 1):



Both sets of fogs:



Like all projects, nothing seems to just "work"
Because of the design of the bumper fogs, they do not release like the OEM inserts. The tabs don't flex enough. So to be able to get the bumper off (the 2 lower screes you need access to through those inserts) I had to Dremel enough clearance in one of the fins to get an 8mm socket and extension through. You can't tell unless you're really close, but kind of a pain.
 
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Nuje

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So to be able to get the bumper off (the 2 lower screes you need access to through those inserts)
That's so cute that you still put those screws in :D. At least half of the cars I see coming to me either are missing the screws or the mount plastic there has been so torn as to be useless.
(I still use those lower two screws, too, of course - even though the car is lifted and the front end doesn't snag on parking blocks like it did when stock, feels like the right thing to do. :) )
 

KrashDH

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That's so cute that you still put those screws in :D. At least half of the cars I see coming to me either are missing the screws or the mount plastic there has been so torn as to be useless.
(I still use those lower two screws, too, of course - even though the car is lifted and the front end doesn't snag on parking blocks like it did when stock, feels like the right thing to do. :) )
Haha yeah, well a lot of the other pieces of the bumper aren't working properly from broken tabs and such ( side inserts that secure bumper to body) so I gotta try and keep what I can use...or else it becomes ziptie time!
 

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Nice ….. gotta save this for possible future projects….
 

KrashDH

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Nice ….. gotta save this for possible future projects….
It was a worthwhile one. I'm doing the same thing on my truck. Have a nicer sealed, waterproof box that has more relays and fuse slots. I've got way more switched goodies on the truck, so I'm just putting it off because it's going to be aot of re wiring.

And I need to either fab or 3Dprint a bracket
 

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Yeah - I meant to mention that this is a great idea and execution. 👍
I have a bunch of different things that are just wires coming through the grommet in the firewall. Being able to have the power draw and fuses/breakers all in the engine compartment....way cleaner than the mess I currently have going on.
 

KrashDH

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Yeah - I meant to mention that this is a great idea and execution. 👍
I have a bunch of different things that are just wires coming through the grommet in the firewall. Being able to have the power draw and fuses/breakers all in the engine compartment....way cleaner than the mess I currently have going on.
There's really no avoiding the wires through the firewall...gauge wires, trigger wires for fogs out to relays...just keeps everything all nice and tight in one area so you dont have a bunch of rogue relays all over the engine compartment with trigger grounds everywhere. I've got a few separate rounds on the battery post for devices, thinking of relocating them to a ground bar somewhere so I only have one connection on the battery ground.
 

dieseldonato

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Just wanted to follow up on my fog light install.

Got some "cheap" bumper projector fog lights. Looked the style, figured I'd give them a go.

Installed:



Headlight fogs and runners (switch pos 1):



Both sets of fogs:



Like all projects, nothing seems to just "work"
Because of the design of the bumper fogs, they do not release like the OEM inserts. The tabs don't flex enough. So to be able to get the bumper off (the 2 lower screes you need access to through those inserts) I had to Dremel enough clearance in one of the fins to get an 8mm socket and extension through. You can't tell unless you're really close, but kind of a pain.
Did you do any logging to see how intake temps were affected after the bumper fogs were installed?
 

KrashDH

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Got a link for that? I want to do the same on my 2nd gen, too many extras scattered all over under the hood.
I don't, I actually bought it years ago. There was really only one guy making them at the time. Should be pretty easy to find one no a days that will fit the bill.
 
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