Audi A3 2.0 TDI Coming to the US!!

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atc98002 said:
So in the end, I just prefer having the option to get the goodies I want, and I hope you can have the option to get your car with your preferences. Personal choice is great, isn't it? :D
It is, and the lack of it is really what I was complaining about, not your preference for leather. :) For example the gasser A3 has a manual option. Why can't the TDI have it? But personally that automatic AC turning-on is pretty much a deal breaker for me, along with my other complaints like no leather alternative and very cramped backseat. The Golf would have been nice if it wasn't for the tall side bolsters on the front seats which I find somewhat uncomfortable. Looks like I'll be keeping my current Jetta for some time...
 

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Diesel Addict, it seems like you have the attitude of a typical snob. By the way, do you have any data to back up your wildly obnoxious allegation that Europeans are smarter than whomever?
There may have been some data on school performance or whatnot, but no, it's just my general impression and their preference for cloth seats, manual transmissions and generally more fuel-efficient cars tells me they're more practical people if not smarter. Plus you don't see them arguing as much over abortion, evolution, universal health care or other issues that most intelligent people wouldn't argue about. Just my 2 cents.
 

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The worse "lack of choice" I have seen to date is on the Golf up here. For the Trendline and Comfortline, you have to get automatic in order to have ESP, except on the Golf wagon where ESP is standard on the Comfortline TDI.

My two deal breakers are automatic and no ESP. So it looks like to get manual I have to give up ESP and to get ESP I need an automatic. Unless I get a wagon, or the Highline which has things I don't want like leather. Oh well they have another year to come to their senses (when my Passat lease expires).
 

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Why? Is it the feel of the leather or just the feeling that you have leather, in which case it's all in your head.
I have been driving cars with leather since 1984. Leather is more comfortable and is cooler than vinyl. I much prefer cloth or leather over vinyl. One of our Jettas has vinyl seats and the other has leather seats. The leather seats are much more comfortable on long trips. I just do not understand people who think the jetta has to be a bare bones car.

I enjoy driving a car that is both comfortable and handles well. Why can we not have both? I have raced sports cars in the past and would love to have a car that handles like my race car with the comfort of a BMW and economy of the TDI.

Bill
 

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Thanks.

PlaneCrazy said:
4 actually, the 2-door Golf is also available in Sportline trim.
But only with the boat anchor 2.5L engine.
:)

Thank you for the clarification.

All I know is that there are choices up in your country that we do not have down here.
Why VW does that is beyond me. I would think that perhaps they would sell more
cars if there were a greater choice of models and options as you have up there. ;)

I agree . . boat anchor is too good a name for that 2.5. My daughters'
first new car was an '89 Golf 4 banger which was a better motor.
All VW did was take that old motor and add another cylinder. Nothing else is changed to
my knowledge. I could be wrong. No one likes it. It is terrible as far as F E is concerned.
VW does no longer fit the 2.0 turbo motor to the Jetta at least down here.
That motor was much better all around than the five banger!

:D
 
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Yeah I have the 2.0T in my Passat. It's way more economical than the 2.5, which I have driven (and measured) as garage loaners. Another interesting VW quirk is that the Passat down in the US, for 2010 is available only with DSG while up here, all 2.0T trim levels are still available with manual (3.6 is tiptronic only though). It's weird that the way smaller market has way more choice, you'd think they'd be reducing their economies of scale by that. I guess it's the product of the recent divorce between VVofA and VW Canada which now reports directly to Germany instead of via VWofA.
 

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Perhaps So

:)

Didn't know that had happened and perhaps that does explain it? :confused:

So is it possible to get a 2.0 T Passat down here equipped with the DSG?
I guess there is no slush box for the Passat any longer.
We drove them equipped that way a few years ago and they were rather nice.

I could be wrong, but I think I read where VW was no longer
offering the Passat with a six cylinder in this market.

Does VW still offer the Passat Wagon 2.0T here in the US with a DSG? :confused:

:D
 

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In the US the Passat/Passat wagon ONLY comes with 2.0T and DSG. Up here we can still get a 6-speed manual on the 2.0T (or DSG) at any trim level and we can still get the six cylinder, but only with AWD and tiptronic, and as a wagon, not a sedan. And I'm not throwing the CC into the mix. In Canada the CC is the Passat CC.
 

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So... back to the 2010 Audi A3 TDI...

I test drove one this week and I was impressed with the suspension/handling and the engine. I could tell that its a good package overall and tuned well, but I hate the transmission programming at slow speeds. Maybe it was the car I drove but you have to fight it to maintain parking lot speeds. I don't recall the A4 Avant I tested in May feeling that way.

The interior is nice but nothing better than any other A3, and besides the leather seating it doesn't feel any classier than a new Golf on the inside. The radio looks dated when I know what comes in the Golf.

Besides the transmission (lack of 6-speed manual) there's nothing to prevent me from wanting this car... except the existence of the Golf. Not being burdened by badge snobbery and knowing that I will be putting over 100,000 miles on my next car within 3 years, I can't justify the extra cost of the A3 over the Golf.
 

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Derrel H Green said:
:)

Do you think there will be a 2.0L TDI CC available shortly? :confused:

:D
No. I had heard a rumor about the possibility of a Passat wagon TDI in Canada.

I was speaking to the sales manager at my dealer today while getting my oil changed.

He said "show it to me in writing from VW and I'll believe it".

No fool he, I guess he's been in the VW business long enough to know how the operate (or rather how they don't operate...)

That said I don't think the CC fits into their diesel demographic for N. America. They probably still think of all of us diesel guys as nerds. Not the slick CC types....
 

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There is a Gray with tan interior Audi A3 TDI available at Tom Williams Audi in Birmingham, Alabama. Do not remember the price. Get in touch with Reed Wertz, phone 205-492-8905.

Bill
 

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FYI, most dealers have the 2010 A3 TDI... Here in Atlanta, all dealers have at least one and some up to seven...

Cheers,

Gary Miyakawa
 

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We drove the A3 TDI Saturday white with black leather, sunroof cold weather package no NAV, Are first impression was the body style was out dated setting next to the Audi A4, A5, I set in the back seat first I had to turn my feet side ways to get them in the floor as the front seat was all the way back but once the front seat was moved forward a few inches all was fine, Getting in the driver’s seat was ok as I had to move the seat forward about 2” from the full rear position to be comfortable. The steering wheel latch mechanism was a joke I had to reach between my legs to get to it while sitting there very awkward, The German that design this should be shot, It needs to be relocated to the left side of the steering column, We also did not have enough up and down travel for are needs, Next the gas pedal was tight there was only an 1.5” between the brake pedal and the fire wall that I did not like, I am 6’2” and after seated I had enough room the seat were very comfortable The interior was of high quality but not fancy the knobs and buttons where very nice Air vents where very high quality best I have seen, there was no Navigation in the test car so I could not test it very stupid on their part people are going to want to see it but it is in the wrong place it sits to low in the dash it needs to be up higher so while driving you could glance over at it and not look down very dangerous, This dash lay out is old and needs to be updated for modern gadgets instead it just pops in the radio place as an afterthought, The Gages were really nice with the multi function display in the center all though we could not get it to work as it just displayed insert phone the salesman did not know anything about it either, In all the interior was nice but not fancy it should stand out some from a VW but did not, Driving was nice, very tight and quite, Power was adequate and the transmission was top notch, The salesman said they have had it for 14 days and that we where the first to drive it I was shocked, It only had 13 mile on it when we drove it and we both put 5 mile a piece on it so I guess he was telling the truth, He all so said that this car is for sale and could buy it to day but they where obligated to have it for test drives for 60 days and would make a good deal on it, In all it is a good car with a outdated body style and few quirks inside, It just did not pass are test in the looks department we will pass it up and wait for and updated body style or an A3 sedan or a A4 TDI, The high MPG is what's luring us to this car but it just is not worth it. After that My wife wanted to look at some car that had just been reworked and had just come out for 2010 A Buick Lacrosse so we drove down the block and took a look Holy crap have any of you seen this thing Body styling was outstanding and the interior styling was out of this world and very high quality and fancy blows Audi’s away comes in FWD and All wheel drive both 27MPG and later with 30 MPG and a 35MPG Hybrid in 2011, We will see what happens with this car as there is nothing we dislike other then the MPG, In all the buick will cost 31 dollars more a month to drive and it's a small price for some thing you like, And we have found in the past if you absolutely don’t like everything about a car then don’t buy .
 
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I didn't like the seats when I drove the A3 TDI test car. Liked the leather, but could feel the seat bottoming out as I adjusted it to accommodate my 6'5" frame.
 

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I just sold what was a very reliable 2001 Audi A4 Quattro (no real issues in 100K miles) for a 2010 Jetta TDI. I would have gladly paid VAG $10K more for a new A4 Quattro Avant TDI if they offered it, but for some reason they don't. So, their loss. :(
 

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Its a bit too expensive for how it felt. Like said it looks out dated. Engine was good though. Which is why I am spring for a JSW.
 

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Test drove the A3 TDI, was not impressed by it. 2.0 TDI and DSG of course was awesome, the interrior looks ok, it felt a little cramp to me. For the price they're asking for, it's not worth it to me.
 

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No TDI/Quattro in Canada - so why would I want an even smaller car than my current MkIV Variant for all that money without getting AWD???????
 

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Pat Dolan said:
No TDI/Quattro in Canada - so why would I want an even smaller car than my current MkIV Variant for all that money without getting AWD???????
Prestige would be my guess :rolleyes:

My brother is in the market for a new compact TDI hatch. Audi A3 TDI and the new Golf VI TDI are the choices. Prestige aside, it's a no brainer unless both of us are missing something here.

Thoughts on the "no brainer" comment?
 

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It's not always a no brainer. Make sure you really like your choice. I thought I would "upgrade" to one of the new TDI's out there (Jetta, Golf or this Audi) until I sat in each one and paid real close attention to comfort and functionality. I had already test driven this powertrain so I didn't bother with another test drive. Surprisingly they all failed (in comfort and/or functionality) so I'm glad I didn't waste my money on something that would actually be a downgrade from my current car.
 

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How do they fail on functionality? Audi I can understand has more sizzle than steak (the price of those nose rings) but having seen the new Golf VI in person and driven the Mk V Jetta as garage loaners, and owned two Mk IV Jettas, I can't say clearly that my Mk IV was superior in functionality other than the fact that it was a wagon. Seating was definitely way more cramped than a Mk V, for instance.
 

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PlaneCrazy said:
How do they fail on functionality? Audi I can understand has more sizzle than steak (the price of those nose rings) but having seen the new Golf VI in person and driven the Mk V Jetta as garage loaners, and owned two Mk IV Jettas, I can't say clearly that my Mk IV was superior in functionality other than the fact that it was a wagon. Seating was definitely way more cramped than a Mk V, for instance.
I own (for the moment) a '00 TDI Jetta sedan, a '09 TDI Jetta sedan, and a '10 TDI Golf.

The '00 Jetta is my 2nd MkIV and we've got about 200k miles worth of MkIV driving under our belts. We have about 30k miles on the '09 and the '10 is brand spankin' new. Here is my quick writeup.

Interior fit/finish/appearance: The '09 Jetta is much nicer than the MkIV. The MkVI Golf is extremely nice too, but in a different way. The climate control nobs on the MkVI feel a bit cheap compared to the MkV (But they look nicer), the touch screen radio looks nicer, as do the steering wheel controls and some of the other little details. Stuff on the MkIV felt cheap and fell apart over time (cup holder, glove box hinge, center armrest) and the coating on the door handles and in some other places wore down and looked terrible really quickly.

Room/Comfort: For seating comfort, I'd say that the cloth seats in the '10 Golf are the best, followed by the '00 Jetta, then the '09 Jetta. It's close between the '00 and the '09, but (to me) the '10 seats are clearly the most comfortable. The MkV and MkVI have basically identical interior dimensions for the front and rear seats and there is a lot more space than in the MkIV.

Cargo space: Trunk space in the MkV Jetta is much larger than in the MkIV and the opening is much bigger and accomodates more stuff. The Golf is obviously a hatchback. The cargo area (with the rear seats up) is fairly shallow, but quite tall. I think the volume is similar to the MkIV trunk, but smaller than the MkV trunk. Bigger stuff fits through the hatch opening though, and with the seats down it is no contest. The JSW would be the huge winner here.

Driving experience: The MkV is more solid/smoother than the MkIV. The MkVI Golf is lower/tighter and feels more 'sporty.' Stock, the 140HP TDIs feel (and are) a lot quicker than the 90 HP TDI. Chip tuning can obviously take care of that.

I can't speak to the A3 TDI, because it's only available with DSG and I wanted a manual transmission in this car. Otherwise, I'd have at least considered it before I wrote the big check.
 
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