Appears to be a Fix for Gen 1 cars! Gen 2-3 are Software.

mr_y82

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Used to have... '11 Golf, 6-spd, 2-door
I just finished my paperwork yesterday. I was waiting on the fix announcement to make the final decision between buyback and fix. I'm opting for the fix and the $5000 in my pocket.
Glad you are able to keep it, neighbor! We just got back from a buyback... It was bittersweet, but with a new daughter 4 doors makes more sense (and we bought a used Legacy for my wife a while back to replace the Golf when I assumed no fix was coming)... Anyway, I am still excited the fix will allow you folks to motor on, and make TDIs more plentiful in general; though I am not in the market now, I will have the option of a nice 4 door TDI in the future... Although those GTIs looked pretty good today too!

I'm wondering, if I opt out of the fix, will I run into problems sourcing any replacement parts in the future?
I would think yes, according to the literature from the settlement (as GoFaster pointed out), but I have an extra low mile set you can have for cheap! I only have 1 DPF, egr cooler, sensors, etc... but I have 2 midpipes with the other catalysts, and a few other things... PM is fine if you are in need of some replacement parts.
 

16volt

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Arizona
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2010 Golf TDI
scheduled for the fix

I just scheduled mine for the fix August 22nd, they told me it would take 2 days to fix it. It says 2-3 hours on the fix paperwork I received. Is my dealer (Berge Mazda Volkswagen Gilbert Arizona) trying to milk some car rental expenses from VW? Or maybe they don't know what they are doing? Makes me a bit worried they will try to pull something on me.

I have found this dealer to be quite shady when it comes to repairs, trying to get me to replace a air filter that was replaced by me 1 week prior to bringing it in. Trying to get me to do a timing belt that had already been done. Pretty much every experience with them has been bad.
 
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kjclow

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Charlotte, NC
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2010 JSW TDI silver and black. 2017 Ram Ecodiesel dark red with brown and beige interior.
Extra time might be because your either first or very early and they want to make sure they do it right. Or any of the other reasons you listed.
 

StayPuff

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2010 Jetta TDI DSG
Is there another dealer around to take it to? I no longer use my closest dealer for things I MUST take it in for, because of their utter lack of competence and conniving business practices. If you have ability to drive to another dealer, I would. The dealer I'm taking my 2010 to has to do two other recalls besides the modification, and they told me it would be about 6 hours.

Plus a complimentary inspection and car wash.
 
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16volt

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2010 Golf TDI
I think your right I am going to call another dealer. I actually hate this dealer so much I did my oil change (at about the same cost) myself last time just to avoid them.

Is there another dealer around to take it to? I no longer use my closest dealer for things I MUST take it in for, because of their utter lack of competence and conniving business practices. If you have ability to drive to another dealer, I would. The dealer I'm taking my 2010 to has to do two other recalls besides the modification, and they told me it would be about 6 hours.

Plus a complimentary inspection and car wash.
 
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kooyajerms

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Pomona, Southern California
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97 B4V (mine), 11 x5 35d (hers) 04 V10 (that one you want), 2014 Q7 (mom's) 74 Shasta 1400
Well dang, I was hoping for a new DPF not just the LNT on my 2011.

Anyone still waiting for the portal to allow for scheduling of your fix?

Quote:
Schedule Your Appointment

The next step in the process is to schedule your appointment to complete the Approved Emissions Modification. An Emissions Modification for your vehicle is not yet approved by EPA/CARB. Volkswagen will contact you when there is an update on the status of the Emissions Modification for your vehicle.

Been showing it still till 8/14/17
Silly me, I didn't know that calling the dealer on the telephone was actually the method to schedule. We scheduled the 3.0 payment by the portal.. :rolleyes:

Scheduled for 8/29 Ontario, CA in at 9am out by the evening.
 

RNDDUDE

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Valencia Ca.
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2011 Jetta Sportwagen TDI
My dealer advised me that they would start scheduling appointments for the Gen 1 fix on Monday Aug 14, so I called that day and I am now scheduled the retrofit for Monday Aug 21 @ 8am, which is solar eclipse day. I am also getting a dental crown done that day also. I choose to believe it is a good omen day for me....
 

BleachedBora

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Gresham, Oregon
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'81 DMC-12, '15 GL350 CDI 275 hp/448 tq - '81 Caddy ALH, '05 E320 CDI 250hp/450 tq
I have to drive a 2009 down for a fix on Monday the 21st as well. I was apprehensive on a 2009 (185k on the clock) but they said they'd have everything to get it taken care of.
We'll see what happens!
 

BleachedBora

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Gresham, Oregon
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'81 DMC-12, '15 GL350 CDI 275 hp/448 tq - '81 Caddy ALH, '05 E320 CDI 250hp/450 tq
I just scheduled mine for the fix August 22nd, they told me it would take 2 days to fix it. It says 2-3 hours on the fix paperwork I received. Is my dealer (Berge Mazda Volkswagen Gilbert Arizona) trying to milk some car rental expenses from VW? Or maybe they don't know what they are doing? Makes me a bit worried they will try to pull something on me.

I have found this dealer to be quite shady when it comes to repairs, trying to get me to replace a air filter that was replaced by me 1 week prior to bringing it in. Trying to get me to do a timing belt that had already been done. Pretty much every experience with them has been bad.
Straight from my internal docs:

Loaner Cars

If the repair time units is greater than 3 hours, Volkswagen is required to provide the customer a loaner car
 

meerschm

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2009 Jetta wagon DSG 08/08 205k buyback 1/8/18; replaced with 2017 Golf Wagon 4mo 1.8l CXBB
I dropped my 09 off this morning. have a nice Jetta gasser as loaner car.

service rep called me around 3, said, they need another day. (need to drop subframe...) keep the loaner and will call.
 

16volt

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Arizona
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2010 Golf TDI
Maybe mine is a early 10 model and that is why they said it would take 2 days. The manufacture date inside my drivers door says 12/09, That would be great if I get my DPF replaced too.

Yup, lots of work for the 09 and early 10 models where they have to replace the DPF because of it being one-piece with the original LNT ...
 
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blazerico

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UBE, PA
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`09 JSW, DSG; '12 JSW (manual)
Damn, now I actually have to make a decision instead of procrastinating until next year. 2012, manual jsw, 130k, needs timing and wheel bearing, no issues. Buyback or fix?
 

4i1brow

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2013 Golf 3-Door TDI
i had the fix

I dropped my car off at 9AM drove away in the red jetta gasser loaner. Expectation was to pick car up the next day. Car ready at 5PM same day. Sticker under hood reads fix installed. Car feels the same. Starting on 3,000 mile road trip Sunday. I will let you know how it goes.
 

BleachedBora

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Oct 16, 2003
Location
Gresham, Oregon
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'81 DMC-12, '15 GL350 CDI 275 hp/448 tq - '81 Caddy ALH, '05 E320 CDI 250hp/450 tq
I dropped my car off at 9AM drove away in the red jetta gasser loaner. Expectation was to pick car up the next day. Car ready at 5PM same day. Sticker under hood reads fix installed. Car feels the same. Starting on 3,000 mile road trip Sunday. I will let you know how it goes.
That's very encouraging! :)
 

LovetheSnarl

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2014 VW Golf TDI
I dropped my car off at 9AM drove away in the red jetta gasser loaner. Expectation was to pick car up the next day. Car ready at 5PM same day. Sticker under hood reads fix installed. Car feels the same. Starting on 3,000 mile road trip Sunday. I will let you know how it goes.
Thanks for the info!
 

BleachedBora

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Gresham, Oregon
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'81 DMC-12, '15 GL350 CDI 275 hp/448 tq - '81 Caddy ALH, '05 E320 CDI 250hp/450 tq
Hot off the press!
Parts list for Gen 1:

Kits:

1K0-298-101-A (I believe this is the 2010+ kit)
Includes the Following:

Part Number Description
1K0-253-120-B Pipe for exhaust Circulation
1K0-253-725-F Clamp
1K0-253-115-AG Gasket
03G-131-547-H Gasket
2x N -106-421-03 Bolt - M8x25
3x 1K0-253-115-AE - Gasket
1K0-253-725 Clamp
1K0-253-691-J Exhaust Flap
2x 1K0-253-725-B Clamp
03L-906-262-N Oxygen Sensor
3x 1K0-825-951 Bolt - M6x20
3x WHT-000-729-A Bolt - M8x20
1K0-971-461-D Heat reflective mat
1K0-971-461-E Heat reflective mat
1K0-971-461-F Heat reflective mat


1K0-298-101-X

I believe this is for 2009 models

Includes the Following:

03G-131-525 connecting hose
03L-906-088-EG emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-088-J emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-088-T emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-262-B oxygen sensor before catalyst
04L-253-115-A gasket
076-906-051-A differential pressure sensor
1K0-131-552-A control line
1K0-131-552-B Control line with differential pressure sensor
1K0-131-649 bracket for exhaust pipe
1K0-253-144-BC bracket
1K0-253-463-AF bracket for exhaust system
1K0-253-725 clamp
1K0-254-708-GX exhaust pipe with particulate. filter.
1K0-971-461-C Heat reflective mat
3x 3C0-131-483-A spring clip
4B0-422-379 spring clip
5N0-131-783 shield for catalyst
5N0-971-461 heat deflector hose
N -010-335-13 screw, hex. hd.
2x N -015-081-6 shouldered hex. nut
4x N -015-083-15 shouldered hex. nut
4x N -023-002-15 hex. nut, self-locking
2x N -102-400-03 bolt, hex. hd. with shoulder
N -104-562-01 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
N -106-531-02 screw, hex. hd.
N -907-371-05 Oval hexagon socket head bolt
2x N -907-865-02 bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
6x N -909-910-02 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
6x N -909-911-02 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
4x N -910-398-02 bolt, hex. hd. with shoulder
N -910-661-01 bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
N -911-671-01 bolt,hex.hd.with shoul.(combi)
2x WHT-000-431-A bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
 

meerschm

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Apr 18, 2009
Location
Fairfax county VA
TDI
2009 Jetta wagon DSG 08/08 205k buyback 1/8/18; replaced with 2017 Golf Wagon 4mo 1.8l CXBB
now i can't wait to see it done

all those new temp and pressure sensors. and heat shields
 

bobt2382

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NJ
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2010 CW GOLF 4DR 6MT TDI
I second that. I wish a dealer would let someone video the install. Would be interesting to see.
 

MonkeyWrench

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Nov 14, 2014
Location
Colorado
TDI
2012 JSW TDi
Hot off the press!
Parts list for Gen 1:
Kits:

1K0-298-101-A (I believe this is the 2010+ kit)
Includes the Following:

Part Number Description
1K0-253-120-B Pipe for exhaust Circulation
1K0-253-725-F Clamp
1K0-253-115-AG Gasket
03G-131-547-H Gasket
2x N -106-421-03 Bolt - M8x25
3x 1K0-253-115-AE - Gasket
1K0-253-725 Clamp
1K0-253-691-J Exhaust Flap
2x 1K0-253-725-B Clamp
03L-906-262-N Oxygen Sensor
3x 1K0-825-951 Bolt - M6x20
3x WHT-000-729-A Bolt - M8x20
1K0-971-461-D Heat reflective mat
1K0-971-461-E Heat reflective mat
1K0-971-461-F Heat reflective mat
1K0-298-101-X
I believe this is for 2009 models
Includes the Following:

03G-131-525 connecting hose
03L-906-088-EG emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-088-J emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-088-T emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-262-B oxygen sensor before catalyst
04L-253-115-A gasket
076-906-051-A differential pressure sensor
1K0-131-552-A control line
1K0-131-552-B Control line with differential pressure sensor
1K0-131-649 bracket for exhaust pipe
1K0-253-144-BC bracket
1K0-253-463-AF bracket for exhaust system
1K0-253-725 clamp
1K0-254-708-GX exhaust pipe with particulate. filter.
1K0-971-461-C Heat reflective mat
3x 3C0-131-483-A spring clip
4B0-422-379 spring clip
5N0-131-783 shield for catalyst
5N0-971-461 heat deflector hose
N -010-335-13 screw, hex. hd.
2x N -015-081-6 shouldered hex. nut
4x N -015-083-15 shouldered hex. nut
4x N -023-002-15 hex. nut, self-locking
2x N -102-400-03 bolt, hex. hd. with shoulder
N -104-562-01 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
N -106-531-02 screw, hex. hd.
N -907-371-05 Oval hexagon socket head bolt
2x N -907-865-02 bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
6x N -909-910-02 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
6x N -909-911-02 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
4x N -910-398-02 bolt, hex. hd. with shoulder
N -910-661-01 bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
N -911-671-01 bolt,hex.hd.with shoul.(combi)
2x WHT-000-431-A bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
An earlier post in another thread suggested that perhaps Gen1 fix was taking sooo long because VW needed time to test the fix - and make sure the exhaust pipe doesn't overheat and catch the car on fire...
I think I'm going to wait on my decision on my 09 until the very last possible moment, and watch to see how the fix does in real time. If the fix causes problems, like car fires, I think I'll go with the buy-back...
 

meerschm

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Apr 18, 2009
Location
Fairfax county VA
TDI
2009 Jetta wagon DSG 08/08 205k buyback 1/8/18; replaced with 2017 Golf Wagon 4mo 1.8l CXBB
The LNT may be a different part.

1K0-298-101-X and 1K0-298-101-A

google up prices at the usual suppliers.

retail is $1622 or $457
 

Matt-98AHU

Loose Nut Behind the Wheel Vendor
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Apr 23, 2006
Location
Gresham, OR
TDI
2001 Golf TDI, 2005 Passat wagon, 2004 Touareg V10.
An earlier post in another thread suggested that perhaps Gen1 fix was taking sooo long because VW needed time to test the fix - and make sure the exhaust pipe doesn't overheat and catch the car on fire...
I think I'm going to wait on my decision on my 09 until the very last possible moment, and watch to see how the fix does in real time. If the fix causes problems, like car fires, I think I'll go with the buy-back...
It took so long because EPA/CARB did a very thorough job of testing and evaluating not only emissions but aging performance of the new parts with the new software parameters. VW submitted the fix proposal for evaluation January 25 (2 days before the 27th deadline).
 

BleachedBora

Vendor , w/Business number
Joined
Oct 16, 2003
Location
Gresham, Oregon
TDI
'81 DMC-12, '15 GL350 CDI 275 hp/448 tq - '81 Caddy ALH, '05 E320 CDI 250hp/450 tq
I do know VW is collecting cores on what comes off, I wish I could get a picture of the complete kit but for now the parts list is all I have...
 

DSIre

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Joined
Jul 11, 2004
Location
Dumont NJ
TDI
2004 Golf TDI (sold), 2011 A3 TDI, 2015 A3 TDI (Returned)
A3 Parts

Hot off the press!
Parts list for Gen 1:

Kits:

1K0-298-101-A (I believe this is the 2010+ kit)
Includes the Following:

Part Number Description
1K0-253-120-B Pipe for exhaust Circulation
1K0-253-725-F Clamp
1K0-253-115-AG Gasket
03G-131-547-H Gasket
2x N -106-421-03 Bolt - M8x25
3x 1K0-253-115-AE - Gasket
1K0-253-725 Clamp
1K0-253-691-J Exhaust Flap
2x 1K0-253-725-B Clamp
03L-906-262-N Oxygen Sensor
3x 1K0-825-951 Bolt - M6x20
3x WHT-000-729-A Bolt - M8x20
1K0-971-461-D Heat reflective mat
1K0-971-461-E Heat reflective mat
1K0-971-461-F Heat reflective mat


1K0-298-101-X

I believe this is for 2009 models

Includes the Following:

03G-131-525 connecting hose
03L-906-088-EG emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-088-J emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-088-T emissions temperature sensor
03L-906-262-B oxygen sensor before catalyst
04L-253-115-A gasket
076-906-051-A differential pressure sensor
1K0-131-552-A control line
1K0-131-552-B Control line with differential pressure sensor
1K0-131-649 bracket for exhaust pipe
1K0-253-144-BC bracket
1K0-253-463-AF bracket for exhaust system
1K0-253-725 clamp
1K0-254-708-GX exhaust pipe with particulate. filter.
1K0-971-461-C Heat reflective mat
3x 3C0-131-483-A spring clip
4B0-422-379 spring clip
5N0-131-783 shield for catalyst
5N0-971-461 heat deflector hose
N -010-335-13 screw, hex. hd.
2x N -015-081-6 shouldered hex. nut
4x N -015-083-15 shouldered hex. nut
4x N -023-002-15 hex. nut, self-locking
2x N -102-400-03 bolt, hex. hd. with shoulder
N -104-562-01 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
N -106-531-02 screw, hex. hd.
N -907-371-05 Oval hexagon socket head bolt
2x N -907-865-02 bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
6x N -909-910-02 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
6x N -909-911-02 bolt, with polygon socket hd.
4x N -910-398-02 bolt, hex. hd. with shoulder
N -910-661-01 bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)
N -911-671-01 bolt,hex.hd.with shoul.(combi)
2x WHT-000-431-A bolt, hex. hd. (combi.)

BB,

Would you have a list for the 2011 Audi A3?
The mailer said that it includes just the NOX catalyst and software.

Engine is a CBEA. But apparently Audi uses newer style parts than VW.

I did look from underneath and my "gen 1 CBEA" does indeed have a two part exhaust, so the NOX cat change should be a 5 minute job. Maybe 10 because they do need to remove and reinstall one sensor.
 
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