Anyone have gas VW or Audis?

vwdieseling

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Lima Ohio
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Beetle, more bugs
My wife has an Audi 1.8T Quattro Wagon, '02 model. 5 speed manual. It is doing really well and has had zero problems so far.
The Mk 4 1.8 has a little more horse power I believe due to the turbo charging. The problems with the TB and the 20 valves make it a little less durable in my opinion than the 2.0 L. The Mk 5 2.5 L leaves a little to be desired. The TSI engine designs I hear are complecated and hard to work on. I've heard the 1.2 TSI being sold in Europe has drawn a few boos from owners. The milage being in the 40's per gallon, probably is difficult to compete with some of the Japaness designs with get the same milage and are simplier to maintane. German over complicated and unessesary engineering at work, but then people like me are drawn to it.
 
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VWJayhawk

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Olathe, KS
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2013 Passat TDI SEL Premium
I just got out of a B8 (2011) A4 2.0T Quattro, would get about 30.5mpg on the highway, and averaged about 26.5 mpg over the 18k miles I had it. I would say it is a fair trade off of fun-to-mpg, but really happy with my first TDI (diesel of any sorts)!
 

DasTeknoViking

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Nov 7, 2010
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Palatine IL
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B4 TDi, A4 R32
2004 R32 hyper miled it once and got an average of 31mpg with nothing over 2500rpm. Most of the time I got around 24-25 combined and that's with a pretty heavy foot driving 80+ mph. Was not stock.
2008 GTi wife can get 32mpg on the highway and that's Dsg and it has quite a few mods.
1999 Audi A6 Avant 2.8 non turbo automatic, 20-22mpg if tired hard 24mpg. Recently sold it.
2002 Allroad 2.7T automatic, it's got short gearing and if I try very hard it will get 24mpg, most of the time it hovers around 19. I don't really care about its Mpg because the car is built like a tank and feels awesome on the highway.
1996 Passat TDi gets 40mpg per tank and no less when it sees 100+mph and 4800rpm romps. When I baby it, will hit 51. My average is usually 45. I don't abuse the car but when I drive it I tend to enjoy if. I tend to put 30k a year on my vehicles and most of them are on my Bmw K1200RS which gets around 40mpg.

As for Civic getting 40mpg, ain't gonna happen. I work for Acura and drive a ton of different cars that come in on trade and I also buy n sell cars on the side. New Civic will hit 34mpg if you drive it normally, if I drive it calm. If you beat on it, trust me you see teens. New ones are nothing like the 80/90s ones which got good mileage.

Supprising I got 40mpg out of a 09 6spd Tsx.
 

Calimus

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Mar 18, 2013
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Cartersville, Ga
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2010 Jetta TDi
This is my first Tdi. The rest of the stable consists of the following.

03' Beetle Turbo S
89' Cabriolet
88' Scirocco 16v
87' Scirocco 16v

I unloaded my 02' A6 2.7t to pickup the Tdi. Save for the Audi, the rest all get decent fuel mileage, but that's not why I have them. They are just very fun toys.
 

cmrn

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Arizona
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2010 Golf TDI
58 vw single cab
2010 vw golf tdi
2012 vw jetta gli

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20IndigoBlue02

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Was North NJ, now SoCal
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2002 Golf TDI-- deceased
The Mk 4 1.8 has a little more horse power I believe due to the turbo charging. The problems with the TB and the 20 valves make it a little less durable in my opinion than the 2.0 L. The Mk 5 2.5 L leaves a little to be desired. The TSI engine designs I hear are complecated and hard to work on. I've heard the 1.2 TSI being sold in Europe has drawn a few boos from owners. The milage being in the 40's per gallon, probably is difficult to compete with some of the Japaness designs with get the same milage and are simplier to maintane. German over complicated and unessesary engineering at work, but then people like me are drawn to it.
The MK4 1.8T (not including TT's for the discussion), started out with less power than the longitudinal, 150 hp vs. 170.

Later, including the TT FWD, the MK4 1.8T got what people referred to as a "K03S" turbo, which among other things, bumped up the power to 180 hp
 

oilhammer

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outside St Louis, MO
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There are just too many to list....
They were. A4 came out in 1995 as a '96 model. AEB engine, no dynamic cam phasing, just an oil fed chain tensioner.

There were a LOT of 20 valve 1.8 liter turbocharged engines, but they can be easily broken down into just two groups: EA827 type and EA113 type. As far as what was sold in this country, all the transverse cars got the later EA113 type (like an ALH). Longitudinal Volkswagens got the EA827 type (like an AHU) in the Passat only from 1998 to 2001, then halfway through 2001, they got the newer EA113 type along with a facelift.

These engines, depending on application, can be 150, 170, 180, or 225hp. While only the some of the earlier EA827 types have dynamic cam phasing, all of the EA113 types have it, regardless of application or output.

The B5 Passat used the exact same 150hp AEB engine from the Audi A4 in '98 and '99. Then in 2000, switched to the ATW or AUG, the AUG having dynamic cam phasing, the ATW does not, like the AEB.

It gets kind of confusing, because Audi did often switch to a newer version/platform/engine before Volkswagen did. The B5 Passat often got a lot of Audi leftovers. For instance, my 2004 Passat has the same twist-beam rear axle as my '98 A4. But by 2002, Audi had given the FWD A4 an IRS rear end. They also switched to the AWB 1.8t engine, whereas the Passat still soldiered on through 2005 with the AWM 1.8t engine.
 
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