Any BRM's make it past the 100K mile mark?

kcfoxie

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I get it from Walmart since they magically started carrying the big bottles for $22 (one jug per change YAY!).

It's a CJ4 oil. I would ask someone at your local parts store who is fluent in oil spec what the Euro equivellant is. I'm sure it's just markted under another name.
 

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Yeah, might be possible. But here we have got VW505.01 oils from Mobil1 too: Synt S 5w30 and Syst S 5w40. However, Mobil1 site recommends those oils to be used in applications requiring 505.00. That's kinda funny...
 

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That is funny since I used M1 5w30 oil in my 2002 2.0L Beetle which IIRC was a 505.00 application.

I have switched my CRD to TDT, talk about quiet. Still cheaper than the 0w40 Euro car formula oil the Jeep manual calls for, too!

There isn't anything I have found not to love about this oil.
 

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I I'm getting wheel stands and changing it in a parking spot, possible?
Get the 8000 lb version of these. They work great for the low clearance of the Jetta. You can get them at most auto parts or discount chain stores.
 

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jasonTDI said:
Drain from the pan and filter replacement without emptying the oil cooler is 4 qt's to the middle of the hatch marks. I usually fill 4.25 since customers don't check....ever.
Jason, I believe you underfilled your customer's car. As far as I've searched (Bentley forums, Tdiclub forums, local UK forums) I found that BRM (also his Eropean twin brother BLS) takes 4.5 quart of oil if you don't suck out the oil cooler and do a bottom drain. If you suck the oil from oil cooler too, then you have to fill with 4.75 quart of oil.

There was/is a dipstic issue with BRM engine where dipstick having "M" suffix (which I believe was too long) was showing nearly MAX only with 3 quarts oil inside. So you have to double check if there's updated version of dipstick.
 

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Windjammer, but there are many sources stating about the oil capacity. I haven't pulled that out of my mind. Besides, there was really a dipstic issue with some engines. I'm confused here. It would be nice of other people who own BRM and have done oil changes could chime in and tell about the actual oil capacity in that engine.
 

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There was an issue with the dipsticks on the early BRMs, yes.

I put 4.5L of oil in them, and I suck the oil out of the oil filter/cooler housing and let the oil drain from the oil pan after the filter has been removed until the drops are more than 30 seconds apart (during which time I am rotating the tires and checking the brakes).

4.5L puts it on the very upper part of the stick. People on this site really sweat the little things like oil level it seems. :)

You are supposed to run the engine for at least 2 minutes, then shut it off, and let it sit for 2 more minutes if I recall the VW technical deal for correct oil level checking.
 

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Since my BRM now has 200,000 miles on it, I have changed the oil 20 times. I put in 4.72 quarts;) to get to exactly the full line. It then drops down to about 3/4 full after a thousand miles or so and stays there, maybe drops a little more.
 

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jerry_m said:
What's so funny about it?

It is funny because you always seem to find a guru or someone of many years experience to try to correct or 'wonder' about whether they know what they are talking about.

The people I am talking about have impeccable credibility here. Now, these people are not infallible, but they have long glorious track records... which you, umm, don't.

Therefore: ROTFLMAO

Bill
 

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This site is way better than cable! :D
 

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book is a dry fill.

you have almost 1/2 a quart in the heat exchanger.

jerry_m said:
Jason, is 4 quarts what Bentley (or other manual) says?
Do you know what oil capacity is for BEW?

The reason I'm asking is that 4 quarts is quite low. Here in Europe (almost) all PD engines with flat tappets take at least 4.5 quarts per book. However, BKD engine (which is 2.0 TDI-PD 16v and use roller type followers [and of course doesn't suffer the cam wear problem although have others]) take exactly 4 quarts.

Might that be one of at least few factors why BRM suffers cam failure?
 

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This site is way better than cable! :D
Hi dude!

Hope things are well. Call me. I missed a response to your message a bit ago.

I'll agree...you should go to the chat room!
 

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40X40 said:
It is funny because you always seem to find a guru or someone of many years experience to try to correct or 'wonder' about whether they know what they are talking about.

The people I am talking about have impeccable credibility here. Now, these people are not infallible, but they have long glorious track records... which you, umm, don't.

Therefore: ROTFLMAO

Bill
Look at how many people here put 4.5-4.7 quarts.

40, please help me find out the oil capacity for BEW if you're so smart :) :p
 

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This sounds like the same as what happens with ALHs. The capacity for the ALH is 4.5 or 4.7 quarts or liters, but I've always found 4.25 quarts fills it.
 

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It's possible that a 'fact on paper' is different from a 'fact in real life'. But at least 'on paper' BRM calls for 4.5 quarts what I'd say is 'normal' for a flat tappet PD. PDs with roller followers call for 4 quarts 'on paper' I guess to fill them takes even less.
 

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There is an oil company advert that comes to mind at the moment and it quite appropriate.


Think with your dipstick, Jerry!

Bill
 

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40X40 said:
There is an oil company advert that comes to mind at the moment and it quite appropriate.


Think with your dipstick, Jerry!

Bill
ROTFLMFAO!!!! :D :D :D :p

I think that guy is possibly from the UK too!!!! (or supposed to be, anyways). :)
 

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oilhammer said:
ROTFLMFAO!!!! :D :D :D :p

I think that guy is possibly from the UK too!!!! (or supposed to be, anyways). :)

Yes, the character is supposed to be a Scot (thrifty, you know). Once you have verified the part number on the dipstick, you go by the oil level reading on the dipstick.

Bill
 

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I've at least watched every oil change, if not had an active hand in the process, and I always bought 5 bottles and used 4.5.

Now I buy one big jug and use all but a tiny amount of it.
 

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That's correct, actual capacity is 4.5 qt. ;) And if you suck out oil from the cooler then it's more :) I think that the best way to do an oil change on your car is DIY and not trust someone trusted :D
 

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