Annoying things you won't miss

Roishe Cheng

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Joined
May 25, 2013
Location
South Bronx, NYC
TDI
2013 Passat
I wont miss the expensive services.

I won't miss the fact that you can't do any maintenance yourself without a computer.

I won't miss the front wheel drive driving dynamics.

I won't miss accidentally pushing the speech recognition button on the steering wheel and missing 30 seconds of what i was listening to.

I won't miss the faulty air condition which works 25% of the time.

I won't miss visiting three or four different gas stations before finding one with diesel.

I won't miss touching diesel pumps that have been previously used by workers with greasy and dirty gloves.

I won't miss paying a premium price for a car and the fuel it runs on because it is supposed to get excellent gas mileage and end up only getting 34.4mpg, the same as a mazda that is 10 grand cheaper, cheaper to maintain, easier to work on, and uses regular unleaded.
I'm lucky if I get 27 mpg in mine around town doing 60-65. Then again, I came from a V8 and have a super heavy foot. So I'm with you on that gas mileage thing.
 

butterme

Active member
Joined
Mar 31, 2014
Location
Northern California
TDI
2013 Passat TDI
I won't miss my VW dealership (Santa Rosa, CA) blaming me for multiple clockspring failures because I have long hair and supposedly I turn my steering wheel too much. I was actually told all car manufacturers recommend not turning the steering wheel too much. :rolleyes:


Overall this has been a great car. I'm really going to miss my 41+ mpg.
 

Salsaman06

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Joined
Dec 30, 2012
Location
Texas
TDI
2013 Passat TDI SEL (sold back to VWoA Dec 21, 2016)
...I won't miss accidentally pushing the speech recognition button on the steering wheel and missing 30 seconds of what i was listening to....
HaHa yeah I've done that too. Annoying.

Also, forgot to mention earlier that I won't miss how long it takes for the engine to warm up and give heat in the winter.
 

RoadRunnerTR21

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 11, 2011
Location
Trinidad, TX
TDI
2012 Passat TDI SE w/sunroof
I won't miss:
.the regen that is going on when I pull into my garage
.the SLOW fill up procedure required for getting the tank full
.the seats
.the over priced maintenance

Other than that this has been a pretty good car
 

conejo_a_cuatro

Veteran Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2004
Location
Bryn Mawr, PA
TDI
2001 Golf GLS Silver, 2011 JSW Manual - Bought Back. Now 328d Wagon.
I deleted the voice recognition with VCDS because it was so annoying. I hated the rpm cutoff. I hate how on our transmission, half the time you're trying to get into first, you're actually in third. I hate how the rear driver door and the front passenger door never closed right. I hate how the sunroof dumped water all over the interior, and VW refused to repair it even though we were under bumper to bumper warranty.

How did a company that made my 2001 golf make such a crappy wagon?
 

bubbagumpshrimp

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Joined
Jul 12, 2013
Location
Virginia
TDI
'13 Jetta TDI
I won't miss accidentally pushing the speech recognition button on the steering wheel and missing 30 seconds of what i was listening to.
I was just complaining about this the other day. I guarantee that I've hit that button accidentally more times than I have intentionally hit it.

If I knew what a pain in the a55 that button was going to be, I would have had the dealer kill that button in Vagcom prior to me taking delivery. They cancelled the 'horn' on 'lock' feature when I bought the car, so they could have done this too easily enough.
 

Philpug

Veteran Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2009
Location
Reno, NV
TDI
Gone but not forgotten
The light clutch. I have been driving sticks since the late 70's, VE's infact, I have not stalled a car more than this one. Other than that, for 150K miles, relatlvely trouble free.
 

RalphVa

Veteran Member
Joined
Oct 17, 2009
Location
Virginia
TDI
Jetta
Won't miss the frequent "glow plug" lights and "check engine" lights dues to turbo boost. Kept attaching the vagcom and turning these off.

Yeah, the engine stalling if it drops a tad below some computer-set speed was annoying. On our Mazda3 so far, I've stalled it ONCE in nearly 3 months. Had several pull-out stalls on the TDI until they reprogrammed it after that 1st year. Then had some occasional ones.

Had to have the door lock on right passenger door replaced on warranty.

Except for some occasional rough idling during burn-offs and stinks in garage from them, it's been a fairly troublefree car. Very enjoyable to drive it. Can run off and leave most anything else on the road. However, much more particular about what gear you're in than the Mazda3, which is an extremely smooth and forgiving car, more like a 5 or 7 series Bimmer and like the old 3 series.

Oh, the left side rear passenger window is a problem. If you lower it, it's very hard to get it back up without the auto stop bouncing it back down.

Also, lower all 4 windows in the Jetta and you get the awful whomp whomp whomp sound of air somehow coming in and colliding inside the car. Never ever had that happen on any other vehicle.
 
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RalphVa

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Oct 17, 2009
Location
Virginia
TDI
Jetta
I'm lucky if I get 27 mpg in mine around town doing 60-65. Then again, I came from a V8 and have a super heavy foot. So I'm with you on that gas mileage thing.
Overall mileage on our TDI for 76.5k miles has been 40.2 mpg.

Our current Mazda3 is doing 36.8 after 4k miles.
 

VeeDubTDI

Wanderluster, Traveler, TDIClub Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 2, 2000
Location
La Conner, WA
TDI
2018 Tesla Model 3: 217,000 miles
I won't miss accidentally pushing the speech recognition button on the steering wheel and missing 30 seconds of what i was listening to.
It will stop listening for you to say something if you say "cancel."
 

ericy

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Joined
Aug 24, 2004
Location
Rehoboth Beach, DE
TDI
2015 Golf TDI (wife's car)
It will stop listening for you to say something if you say "cancel."
Doesn't work. I must have said "Cancel" about 30 times, and it never understood. It just kept yapping at me and trying to tell me the menu for something I didn't care about. Even as I got increasingly annoyed and tried to enunciate even more clearly, it simply didn't understand. Maybe I needed to say something in German.

The dealer showed me a trick - you just hit the microphone button again, and it cancels. A lot easier than fighting with a voice recognition system that doesn't work.
 

opelgt21

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Joined
Jan 10, 2015
Location
Indianapolis
TDI
2014 Jetta TDI - BB
#1 Regens that always start as I pull into my driveway after my 30mi highway commute.
#2 Waiting for a diesel pump behind a gasser
#3 Intercooler Icing
#4 Worrying about HPFP and other design flaws to happen
 

ericy

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Joined
Aug 24, 2004
Location
Rehoboth Beach, DE
TDI
2015 Golf TDI (wife's car)
Diesel pumps where some idiot has spilled all kinds of fuel all over the ground, which then gets on the bottoms of your shoes, and you end up smelling it for the rest of the day.
 

geodug

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Joined
Jun 22, 2011
Location
Vancouver, BC, Canada
TDI
2011 Golf Wagon TDI 6MT
Diesel pumps where some idiot has spilled all kinds of fuel all over the ground, which then gets on the bottoms of your shoes, and you end up smelling it for the rest of the day.
I see this all the time too. What I do NOT understand is that most of the diesel pump handles are much dirtier than the gas pump handles. This is at mostly car stations not suitable for the semi-truck crowd. Are the pickup truck guys doing this?

I always use gloves like others here.
 

VeeDubTDI

Wanderluster, Traveler, TDIClub Enthusiast
Joined
Jul 2, 2000
Location
La Conner, WA
TDI
2018 Tesla Model 3: 217,000 miles
I see this all the time too. What I do NOT understand is that most of the diesel pump handles are much dirtier than the gas pump handles. This is at mostly car stations not suitable for the semi-truck crowd. Are the pickup truck guys doing this?
I always use gloves like others here.
Because diesel fuel is oily and attracts dirt, while gasoline generally evaporates and leaves very little residue.
 

engineered2win

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Joined
May 24, 2011
Location
Dublin, OH
TDI
MkVI Golf TDI
And the sunroof that opens all by itself, rain or shine. December 3 can't come soon enuf.
I thought I was the only one with the possessed sunroof. I've done hours of google searches and can't find anything. It isn't the switch, so ?? CECM ?? Sunroof motor?? short/broken wire?? I've given up. November 29, 2016, a date which will live in infamy.

I won't miss all the complainers that turn in perfectly good cars. Enjoy using a lot more fuel and even more reliability issues with lesser quality replacement cars.
I simply can't imagine a more unreliable car. I've had old cars, I've had cheap cars, I've had old, cheap cars, hell I even have Italian motorcycles, and all of them combined do not add up to the problems of this TDI.

Short of the HPFP, I've had about every other auxiliary engine component fail. Every emissions component failed at least once: exhaust valve, HP EGR valve x2, DPF got clogged by the 2nd HPEGR valve, swirl flap actuator, anti-shudder valve (failed closed on day 1 after driving home from the dealer and had to be towed back). After the DPF got plugged, and the fuel economy tanked and the car drove like a turd, I just deleted everything: Rawtek DPF delete with cat in the midpipe, Malone Stage 1 tune, EGR valve deletes, and swirl flap delete with the little doodad from Diesel Geek to keep the CEL off. The powertrain has been reliable since I removed all that unreliable junk.

Then there is the symphony of rattles and squeaks, which are only rivaled by my dearly departed POS 2002 Chevy Cavalier.

The door seals, or lack thereof, draw questions from every passenger and even I, after 100k miles still instinctively hit the power window switch and check the doors are fully closed, "Is your window/door open?" "nope... that's the sound of precision German engineering..."

The infotainment system, which runs on an i386, takes about an hour to boot up. I mainly use google maps for navigating and just look at the map for reference, but the bluetooth interface is so turrible even that is difficult to use. The phone will connect flawlessly with the car, but sometimes it will switch to bluetooth immediately, sometimes it will take 10 minutes. And the source can't just be switched to bluetooth. I have to select MDI, and then dick around with the phone starting/stopping music or wait for it to randomly switch from MDI to bluetooth. Then there's the fact that it has A2DP, for stereo audio streaming, but no AVRCP, so I have to pull out my phone to give it commands (play, pause, next track, etc).

Lastly I have a strange vibration at highway speeds. The intensity changes with speed and it is intermittent. I can have the cruise at 75mph and one minute it feels like I have an ass massager on, the next minute it's silky smooth. I've tried different wheels and tires (which are all balanced and wheels aren't bent), I've replaced the front wheel bearings, ball joints, and tie rod ends. The alignment is set to factory specs. I've checked the runout on the wheel hubs and rotor hats and cleaned them. I torque the wheels to 88ft-lbs every time I install them. I've given up... Bushings are all fine. Subframes both have the Tyrolsport bushings and are properly torqued. Other than maybe CV axles, I don't know what I could be, but I've stopped caring. I wasn't about to keep dumping money into the guess and check method; it gets expensive.
 
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akjdouglass

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Joined
Oct 3, 2013
Location
Jefferson City, Missouri
TDI
2012 Jetta w/premium (sold to VW); 2014 Jetta Value Edition; 2015 Jetta SEL; 2003 Jetta GL
I won't miss all of the people on my ignore list when they've finally driven away in their non-polluting, non-depreciating, maintenance-free, bullet-proof replacements.:rolleyes: There's nothing wrong with choosing the buyback, but what's troubling to me is the number of people using TDIClub solely as a megaphone to voice their displeasure with VW.

Since I'm not selling back, I'll have to live with the annoying a/c button on my 2014 Jetta that sticks every time it's pushed. (no good ****ing piece of **** VW):D
 

HBarlow

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Joined
Nov 3, 2012
Location
Crosby County, TX
TDI
2009 Jetta Sportwagen, 2016 Audi Q5 TDI
I won't miss all of the people on my ignore list when they've finally driven away in their non-polluting, non-depreciating, maintenance-free, bullet-proof replacements.:rolleyes: There's nothing wrong with choosing the buyback, but what's troubling to me is the number of people using TDIClub solely as a megaphone to voice their displeasure with VW.

Since I'm not selling back, I'll have to live with the annoying a/c button on my 2014 Jetta that sticks every time it's pushed. (no good ****ing piece of **** VW):D
ME TOO. I'm sick of the adolescent whining, complaining, and weaseling new ideas for scamming VW out of a few more dollars.

I'll be glad when all of them depart into the sunset in their wonderful no-energy consuming electric golf carts.
 

SOCALGAL

Veteran Member
Joined
Nov 3, 2016
Location
North Carolina
TDI
2010 Jetta Sedan & 2013 Jetta Wagon
I thought I was the only one with the possessed sunroof. I've done hours of google searches and can't find anything. It isn't the switch, so ?? CECM ?? Sunroof motor?? short/broken wire?? I've given up. November 29, 2016, a date which will live in infamy.


Nope, I have a possessed sunroof also as does my friend who has a gas Jetta. I thought I was losing my marbles at first (I could have sworn I closed that :confused:) until I was in the car when it opened on it's own. :eek:
 
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maybe368

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Apr 30, 2014
Location
Phoenix
TDI
Happily none
ME TOO. I'm sick of the adolescent whining, complaining, and weaseling new ideas for scamming VW out of a few more dollars.

I'll be glad when all of them depart into the sunset in their wonderful no-energy consuming electric golf carts.
And I am sick of the VW fanBOYS repeating the same noise over and over and over and over, ad nauseum...Mark
 

EEVLWYS

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Joined
Feb 23, 2012
Location
California
TDI
2011 Jetta TDI
1. I won't miss having to buy new headlights every 3 months.
2. I won't miss the annoying "bing bing" chime everything I sit the smallest thing in the passenger seat.
3. I won't miss searching for that dam diesel pump at the gas station.
4. I won't miss not having an oil or temp gauge.
5. I won't miss driving a manual transmission.
6. I won't miss the wind noise at 75 mph.
7. I won't miss having to deal with VW claims any more.
8. I won't miss the Bluetooth either. None on my controls work.
 
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k1xv

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Joined
Apr 4, 2009
Location
southern Vermont
TDI
09 TDI sedan, sold back 12/16. Present cars 2013 BMW X5 diesel, 2015 Corvette convertible
I won'r miSS all of the VW specific lubes, greases, additives, coolants, chemicals, etc. that cost three times what the equivalent product costs at NAPA or Wally World.
 
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