Amsoil bypass install on 2012 Jetta TDI Sportwagen and need help

[tikal]

Clean oil means less soot in oil and less carbon, easier on the seals.
Fun fact, we bought back a car we sold. We did an oil change and then 30 mins later did another as new oil was black. Oil can only carry so many contaminants, a severely neglected engine can have a lot of crud settle from the oil. A bypass filter fixes that.

^^^ Ok, one option. Another one, run this two step program:

1) https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/engine/bg-dynamic-engine-cleaner/
2) https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/engine/bg-dynamic-engine-rinse-oil/

Then, for a CR TDI, run a one or more short oil change intervals (OCI), like 5,000 miles using a 507 certified engine oil.

Presto!

 

[norbert77]

I have a dual filter on my dodge ram. It’s a 2 different filter in 1 canister. 2500 miles after an oil change the oil is still not black. What does your turbo and turbo seal think of 20 micron grit at 60,000rpm?

 

[tikal]

I have a dual filter on my dodge ram. It’s a 2 different filter in 1 canister. 2500 miles after an oil change the oil is still not black. What does your turbo and turbo seal think of 20 micron grit at 60,000rpm?

I would think apples and oranges comparison. The cost/benefit does not seem reasonable for CR TDIs.

 

[norbert77]

I would think apples and oranges comparison. The cost/benefit does not seem reasonable for CR TDIs.

if crankshaft bearings run on oil and never touch, what wears them out?

 

[CleverUserName]

if crankshaft bearings run on oil and never touch, what wears them out?

Nearly all engine wear occurs during startup, there is only a residual oil film present and parts are transitioning from their cold to hot dimensions while moving and under load. How you drive during this dynamic phase of thermal expansion has a the most significant impact on engine longevity.

I always do used oil analysis including soot %. I’ve never seen any significant soot accumulation that is near the condemnation limit in any of my samples. Most are always < 0.1-0.4% soot. The highest value I’ve ever gotten on my truck is 0.7%. Soot % was also never at the condemnation limit requiring an oil change, it’s always increasing oxidation, viscosity and decreasing alkalinity which indicate the oil is ready to be changed. Not soot %.

Soot is encapsulated by detergents in engine oil. If order for soot to become abrasive it would need to be such a high % it would overwhelm the oils ability to keep it in suspension.

Soot is also an indicator of poor quality fuel or incomplete combustion. This metric can be trended over time to troubleshoot potential fuel injector issues which would be masked by a bypass filter.

 

[oilhammer]

if crankshaft bearings run on oil and never touch, what wears them out?

Who has seen a TDI wear out crankshaft bearings under normal operation?

 

[Dannyboy]

Trying to create a solution to a problem that does
doesn't exist.

 

[norbert77]

Who has seen a TDI wear out crankshaft bearings under normal operation?

A bypass type filter works for every engine

 

[norbert77]

Trying to create a solution to a problem that does
doesn't exist.

If a guy wants his oil clean, what's it to you? His money, his plan. Let him be. All he wanted was a bit of help. List some of your hobbies so we can say what a waste of time or money it is? Well don't but same idea. You could criticize anyone for anything, why waste money on aftermarket wheels and tires? Why tiny a window? Why do anything

 

[oilhammer]

Not what I asked. Solution in search of a problem. If an engine can literally last "indefinitely" as it left the factory, certainly longer than the body its in as well as much longer than anyone would typically keep a car, what are you trying to improve upon? Do you have any idea how many cars I see that have gone past a half million miles with nothing more than standard equipment and normal scheduled PM?

 

[norbert77]

Not what I asked. Solution in search of a problem. If an engine can literally last "indefinitely" as it left the factory, certainly longer than the body its in as well as much longer than anyone would typically keep a car, what are you trying to improve upon? Do you have any idea how many cars I see that have gone past a half million miles with nothing more than standard equipment and normal scheduled PM?

Lots of high mile cars. But I also see lots of cars that never get a wash or wax, we could just as easily discuss how unnecessary that is. If he wants clean oil, it's up to him. I flush my brake fluid and power steering fluid every 2-3 years on all my vehicles. Overkill? Sure. My car, my time, my money.

 

[CleverUserName]

Installing a bypass system on a CR and then extending the 507 oil change interval past 10k miles because you “believe” that it has extended the oil life (like a big rig or truck) would actually be harmful to the engine and shorten its life.

 

[Dannyboy]

Lots of high mile cars. But I also see lots of cars that never get a wash or wax, we could just as easily discuss how unnecessary that is. If he wants clean oil, it's up to him. I flush my brake fluid and power steering fluid every 2-3 years on all my vehicles. Overkill? Sure. My car, my time, my money.

You brought up wash and wax?why? No relevance to this thread.
VWs brake fluid change recommendation IS 2 years so not sure why you think it's overkill. Shows how little you know about VWs.

I don't care what you do with your vehicle or anyone else, facts are facts. Your searching for problems that don't exist.

 

[norbert77]

No, the point is just a money, he wants to improve, it's his business he doesn't need naysayers. And as for high mile cars, those typically have lower engine hours and fewer starts than city cars.

Lots of other cars have 4 year brake flush intervals that I do in 2. I also don't buy into the lifetime fluid. His car, either be helpful or why bother criticize?

 

[Dannyboy]

Again why are you bringing lifetime fluids into the thread for? No brake fluid is lifetime.

I don't care in the slightest if people want to set their money it on fire and take a dump on it. I see enough morons putting pointless junk on their vehicle for the placebo effect.

The stock system is more than adequate. The chances are the car will be destroyed in a collision/body rusted out/stolen/scrapped before the engine wears out on the stock oil system provided the correct service interval is followed with good quality oil.
That's fact, not an opinion.

 

[tikal]

Installing a bypass system on a CR and then extending the 507 oil change interval past 10k miles because you “believe” that it has extended the oil life (like a big rig or truck) would actually be harmful to the engine and shorten its life.

This is the key point I believe. Comparing the benefits of doing additional oil filtration on pre-CR TDIs with heavy duty diesel (505, CK, etc.) oil with attempting the same benefit using 507 oil in common rail TDIs is a little bit like apples and coconuts to me.

 

[oilhammer]

Nobody cares how someone spends their money, except when they come to a public forum and solicit others' opinions.

Except there is overwhelming evidence to show this is indeed not opinion...