almost 368K!

[Z85rado]

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/c7ee9d2e-d3cf-411f-888b-f97019f1c847/

dealer serviced to boot! i'd love to see another long hauler get it and see how far these components last!

 

[ticaf]

Pretty impressive. Based on the carfax, looks like no problems either.
Too bad no pics.

 

[bigb]

Wonder if it's deleted.

 

[turbobrick240]

Unlikely. People selling cars w obvious illegal mods. probably know enough to be careful about how they sell them. Maybe I'm wrong. Would be interesting to see if you could find any deleted trucks on cars.com.

 

[Abacus]

The odds are very good the average layperson wouldn't even know if a car was deleted or not. Besides, illegal is a matter of degrees and based on geography. For instance this is legal here but it wouldn't be in lots of other places:

And please don't go into the 'federal' this or that, it gets tiring. The emissions police aren't going to go around inspecting vehicles to see if someone has an illegal (or no) cat, DEF system, or tune.

 

[turbobrick240]

The average layperson may not know, but the average owner of a deleted diesel sure as heck does. And they'd be quite the sleazy character to sell such a vehicle without informing the buyer. Not to mention the legal liability they'd be exposing themselves to by not disclosing that information. It's very unlikely that TDI is deleted for another more mundane reason- very few are as a percentage.

 

[Cuzoe]

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal, but I have convinced three of my friends to pick up stop sale TDIs. None of them live in a state that does emissions testing. My friends are, in my estimation, average car people... not a single one of them has any idea what I'm talking about if I mention deletes.

And by talking I mean complaining to them about how California is restricting me from doing things I probably wouldn't do even if they weren't restricting me lol.

So they aren't going to be selling anything deleted. But if it weren't for me they wouldn't even know to ask about deletes if they were in the market and came across the TDI. Even in a non-emissions testing state, it's a sorry person that sells a deleted car without disclosing it, even if that disclosure comes in private communication.

 

[Z85rado]

I seriously doubt it.. dealer services religiously. Mine is about 85k 5.5 years in and i'll keep it stock through the 11/162 which with my current commute will more or less hit it on the head. i've tried to convince friends this is the best daily out there. one is driving a 200k manual FJC and the other now with much more automotive ADHD is driving a 2015 AMG wagon. Awesome car dont get me wrong but he complains about the harsh ride.

 

[GolfSW98]

Car sold, wish I was able to open the link. Impressed!

 

[740GLE]

The odds are very good the average layperson wouldn't even know if a car was deleted or not. Besides, illegal is a matter of degrees and based on geography. For instance this is legal here but it wouldn't be in lots of other places:

And please don't go into the 'federal' this or that, it gets tiring. The emissions police aren't going to go around inspecting vehicles to see if someone has an illegal (or no) cat, DEF system, or tune.

Diesel Ram Owner Crushes Truck After State Orders Deleted Emissions Fix

Mike Sebold's fight with the New Jersey DEP has led to the scrapyard, but it might not end there.

www.thedrive.com

fake news?

no point in owning a car if it cant get a plate, state has the power to pull plates, now the chances of the state caring about it or the resources to enforce are minimal, except for jersey i guess.

 

[Abacus]

Nope, just one anecdote, from which no trends or conclusions can be drawn since it’s a single occurrence. And it’s in New Jersey, which is a known anti-common sense overly regulated state. And now the guy will scrap the car and buy something else, all adding to the carbon emissions cost which will result in a large net loss rather than just leaving the guy alone to run his one tuned diesel. Great job at ‘helping’ the planet. It seriously amazes me that people can’t think Globally while purporting to do that very thing.

Reading the comments was hilarious, common sense was taking a beating from those wishing to live in a dystopian state. Meanwhile I’ll happily keep driving my ’96 B4V and smile.

 

[turbobrick240]

That guy in Jersey is a moron. Not only was he unwise about how he chose to attempt to sell his deleted Dodge, but now he wants to be some kind of delete martyr, lol. Announcing that he's going to delete more trucks after he put himself on the radar of the New Jersey state government environmental protection officials. Probably all talk and he just likes the attention.

 

[Cuzoe]

Sure there is a net "loss" on the one person (or even people) that choose to delete, get caught (by doing something foolish), decide to scrap the car, then buy another. But this person (or people) should not just be permitted to break the law (regardless of one's feelings about them, which is a different topic) in the name of "thinking Globally." By that logic everyone should just delete under threat of adding more emissions "cost" by following this gentleman's blueprint.

 

[gearheadgrrrl]

Deleting for the sake of deleting makes no sense- If the vehicle is running fine there's no point in trashing the emission controls.

 

[turbobrick240]

He could have returned the Dodge to legal compliance for a couple grand, no need to crush it. He just preferred to throw a tantrum and spray paint obscenities on his truck. I'm sure he's pleased with his two minutes of fame.

 

[740GLE]

He could have returned the Dodge to legal compliance for a couple grand, no need to crush it. He just preferred to throw a tantrum and spray paint obscenities on his truck. I'm sure he's pleased with his two minutes of fame.

Couple grand? Prob if he had the parts on hand, but most likely they were scrapped. I sure as heck wouldn't want to buy new DPF/SCR sytem if an issue arose with our TDI.

Either way it was an example of how a state can enforce laws when they want, is this the norm? heck no, but is it possible.

 

[turbobrick240]

Couple grand? Prob if he had the parts on hand, but most likely they were scrapped. I sure as heck wouldn't want to buy new DPF/SCR sytem if an issue arose with our TDI.

Either way it was an example of how a state can enforce laws when they want, is this the norm? heck no, but is it possible.

Yeah, most parts are much cheaper for domestic vehicles. You can get a full 4" 300 series SS delete exhaust for one of those trucks for the same price as a 2.5" 400 series SS downpipe alone for a commonrail tdi. Or a turbo 4 times the size for less. A reconditioned DPF for one of those Dodges goes for around $500-700. A new one can go for as little as $800.