Acceleration Hesitation

tumper

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I have a question for the forum. I have a 2014 Passat SEL TDI and I love the car. However I am still getting used to it. There is a hesitation in the car and I am wondering if it is normal for the turbo diesel, or do I have a problem. Let me describe the situation.
I live in Dallas Texas and when returning to the office from lunch I have to make a left turn on a busy street with no traffic light. So when the traffic is clear (enough) often you have to dart between cars. I have noticed, in I think every case, when I punch the gas (or diesel might be more correct) there is about a one second delay before the car takes off. And that can seem like a lifetime if cars are headed towards you. Now after the one second delay it will burn rubber accelerating. But it does have a delay.
Now I know a little about the turbo charge system and I realize it takes some time to build pressure in the intake, but this shakes me a little. Do others have the same issue?
 

bobthefarmer

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No normal to have the hesitation. I don't experience it on my 2012
 

pparks1

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I think it's normal in the DSG. I have a slight hesitation as well, but it's something that I'm used to after having driven a manual for the past 12 years. It's no more time then would have passed from me letting out the clutch and getting the car going. In a nutshell, that is what's going on anywhere behind the curtain of the DSG.
 

tdiatlast

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OP: try releasing the brake a second or two before you squeeze the go pedal. Also, it's well documented here and elsewhere that the TDI/DSG combination does NOT respond to rapid pedal mvmt. from a dead stop. Gradually "roll" into the throttle.
There are dozens of threads on this topic, dating back to 2009.
 

DaveTC

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My car (with a DSG) does the same thing. It is just a matter of getting a feel for how feather in the throttle. I squealed my tires quite a bit when I first got the car. I can now anticipate the opening and get the car up to speed quickly now.
 

tdiatlast

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Tumper: YIKES! I just tried to do exactly what you're doing. THE THROTTLE DOES NOT RESPOND! There's a clear 1-2 second delay if I quickly move from full stop/brake on to throttle. If you want to move quickly, the DSG requires full release of the brake, one second or more, and then rolling into the throttle.

Driving the DSG has become so normal for me, in over 100k miles, that I had no idea how much of an adjustment I had made.
 

ChadS99SVT

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Yep it's normal. You have to adjust how you hit the go pedal from a stop. I usually start rolling into it a few seconds early so in those situations I'm ready to "race" into the turn.
 

Roshermoore

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At least since 2009!

There is a hesitation in the car and I am wondering if it is normal
You are describing how my 09 JSW with DSG has responded at the get go since I drove it home in February 2009 from Metro VW in Irving.
 

jrm

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Sport mode solves a lot of it, or do what I do- release your foot brake but hold the car in place with the handbrake- its simply the computer releasing the clutch and holding engine power off until it knows the clutch is ready, as you may or may not know this cars transmission is a computer controlled manual. I also tried not completely stopping but then the car takes off in 2nd gear and rides the clutch up to about 15mph.
 
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tdiatlast

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^^^another DSG quirk. It does NOT like rolling stops, unless you go to manual mode.
 

jrm

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^^^another DSG quirk. It does NOT like rolling stops, unless you go to manual mode.
Yup, slid it over to manual and it engages 1st perfectly. Wife just lets it slip the clutch climbing up the parking garage. :mad:
 

skinnyb

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Yep both of mine do it (JSW and Passat) however my R32 is not nearly as bad (3.2 vr6, dsg and no turbo) which leads me to believe it is a combination of dsg quirk and turbo lag.
 

Justinw303

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Yup, slid it over to manual and it engages 1st perfectly. Wife just lets it slip the clutch climbing up the parking garage. :mad:

Wait, how can I tell for sure that the clutch is slipping? I don't notice anything weird during rolling stops, but now I'm gonna pay a bit more attention.
 

dzcad90

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I don't even think of it anymore - this is my second TDI with DSG, so it's just become nature for me to drive the DSG to account for this.
 

jrm

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Wait, how can I tell for sure that the clutch is slipping? I don't notice anything weird during rolling stops, but now I'm gonna pay a bit more attention.
its tough, I didn't even notice it at first, then when I got the chance to put 2400 miles on ours this past 2 weeks and climbing a parking garage 2 times a day with all the windows down and sound echoing back into the cabin, if you perform a rolling stop then gently accelerate you will notice it stays in 2nd, and it does a great job holding the rpm about where a torque converter trans would, but then just before 15mph you will notice a slight grab and the tach will drop just a hair when it "lets the clutch fully out"
If I slide it over to manual, it engages 1st perfectly and will hold 1st rather than trying to climb the slight grade in 2nd- these are wet clutches that are cooled with trans oil so this isn't as bad as when my wife does the same thing in my civic :D
 
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tdiatlast

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FYI, staying in 2nd is preferable to the programming in my 2009 DSG, which will downshift abruptly into 1st, with the revs shooting up to 2400+. It's like a novice driver downshifting into 1st and popping the clutch.
 

jrm

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FYI, staying in 2nd is preferable to the programming in my 2009 DSG, which will downshift abruptly into 1st, with the revs shooting up to 2400+. It's like a novice driver downshifting into 1st and popping the clutch.
That would be tough to drive for sure! I just wish it would engage 1st at around 5-8mph, as it will hold second clear down to 2 mph even on steep grades
 

skinnyb

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That would be tough to drive for sure! I just wish it would engage 1st at around 5-8mph, as it will hold second clear down to 2 mph even on steep grades
X2. I hate that it waits so long to downshift. I have learned to shift to manual when I know I will be rolling on after almost stopping or climbing an incline of any kind at low speed. Second nature to me now I don't even think about it.
 
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