AndyH said:
With respect, Sooch, shall we assume that you're also suggesting that because some soup comes in cans, that if you want soup, and see a can of spaghetti sauce, that it must actually contain soup?
While the 'if a' structure is correct, it creates a bad result if one starts with a bad initial assumption.
My point, derived initially from analyzing the documents, and confirmed in multiple conversations with the guy in charge of fluid selection for US warranty, is that the list of approved oils is absolutely a list of approved oils, but is not the entire list of oils suitable for use for US warranty. The approved products list is a SUBSET of available products.
The point of this thread is to see if anyone can disprove that point - not get into another endless and circular discussion of their personal view of 'reality'.
With no due respect Andy,
Another circular discussion is EXACTLY what you asked for and wanted here, just as you always do. You wish to turn this into an Amsoil house, and it upsets you that you are failing to increase your market share by an appreciable margin. Your mostly useless, verbose blather of Amsoil vs. all others pollutes this forum on an all too regular basis. Amsoil is what it is. Great oil, not certified. Get over it.
Unless you are also a lawyer, please stop giving legal advice on what is or is not suitable for US warranty. If you are not an attorney, you should watch your ass, because plenty of your misinformation on what is or is not legal in the US could be used against you.
The only poor assumption was yours, way back when you surmised that the 505.01 spec was a myth and unnecessary. Your soup analogy is also a poor one. As with any property, one must use a bit of common sense. If common sense and reality escape you, i'm afraid that I can do nothing to assist you.
Your point in starting this thread, like 10's of others, is to try to convince folks that just because Amsoil won't step up with the big boys and get certified, that it doesn't matter anyway. You consistently post or reply in rediculously verbose fashion, to cloud the facts. That is the sign of a snake oil salesman.
Again, to promote YOUR personal view of reality to agitate yet ANOTHER circular discussion, is just what you as an Amsoil salesman wanted. Don't insult us by implying that you really wanted to "figure something out".
That is all I will say, because any time conversing with you is, in my opinion, wasted time. I've wasted too much time with this reply already.