800+ on a tank, whos with me.

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What the heck, I'm back in tdi land after a 8 year break, and I'll throw this out there:

1/4 tank (gauge) left, 580 miles so far. Signature for car/mods. I've already done 700 on a fillup, how far do you think I'll make it?
 

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I've gone 210 miles since I filled up this morning, and the needle still has not come off the full mark. This may be my best tank yet....
 

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I have putzed around reading this thread. There are alot of:

Liars
mathmaticly challenged
dangers on the highway


In this thread. 800-900 miles per tankful? Please. If you managed to do this without Johnny Law writing you a ticket for impeding traffic, shame on Johnny Law, or you have a horse shoe stuck up your nether regions.

Drive the car, like it is a .......................I dont know, how about A CAR!!!

I drive between 75-80, coast down hills, inflate my tires to 42psi, coast to stops etc. and NEVER get better than 700 on a GREAT day. I record every fillup and average 44mpg and never had a tank do better than 47mpg.

Put the weed down and your right foot on the floor.
 

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LiLredTDI said:
I have putzed around reading this thread. There are alot of:

Liars
mathmaticly challenged
dangers on the highway


In this thread. 800-900 miles per tankful? Please. If you managed to do this without Johnny Law writing you a ticket for impeding traffic, shame on Johnny Law, or you have a horse shoe stuck up your nether regions.

Drive the car, like it is a .......................I dont know, how about A CAR!!!

I drive between 75-80, coast down hills, inflate my tires to 42psi, coast to stops etc. and NEVER get better than 700 on a GREAT day. I record every fillup and average 44mpg and never had a tank do better than 47mpg.

Put the weed down and your right foot on the floor.
Then don't read this one...
 

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After removing the vent I finally got 800 miles.

828.3 miles
14.674 gallons

Mark
 

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LiLredTDI said:
I have putzed around reading this thread. There are alot of:

Liars
mathmaticly challenged
dangers on the highway


In this thread. 800-900 miles per tankful? Please. If you managed to do this without Johnny Law writing you a ticket for impeding traffic, shame on Johnny Law, or you have a horse shoe stuck up your nether regions.

Drive the car, like it is a .......................I dont know, how about A CAR!!!

I drive between 75-80, coast down hills, inflate my tires to 42psi, coast to stops etc. and NEVER get better than 700 on a GREAT day. I record every fillup and average 44mpg and never had a tank do better than 47mpg.

Put the weed down and your right foot on the floor.
Keep in mind you have a PD which in general gets lower mileage than the earlier TDI's... I've hit 700+ on a couple tanks, but that was under perfect driving conditions. (Long drives through the country, no stops, no traffic, cruising at 55)
 

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Hello LiLredTDI

97pssat04golfTDIs said:
I just got 821.0 and filled 16.339 gallons for a 50.247 MPG this using the car just for my commute to work that is 18.0 miles one way with 26 stopping opportunities as I've seen it said. I'm really happy I finally broke the 50 MPG and 800 miles tank barrier and my car is a PD auto tranny! :cool:

I was wondering if anybody else with an PD or ALH auto tranny has completed 800 miles on a tank and or gone 50+ MPG on a tank.
I did this with a PD auto tranny, you can continue to enjoy your new tune and 17/22 turbo but if you were smart and had to drive in Washington DC traffic like I do you would take it easy. Let the slow line of traffic help by laying back and going easy with the flow. I still make some harder accelerations to change lanes and to get over to the right lane, but it is not that hard to get an over 800 tank if you vent and drive under 70. Last time I looked the top MPH on the interstate around here is 65. I never drive under the speed limit, unless everyone is, due to clusterF#$K traffic blocking the road. Try taking it easy for the 1st 1/4 tank then refill "vented" and see what you get, you maybe surprised.

No need to be hostile or just because you have not done it this must not be possible. I know I don't fudge on numbers, I doubt most other posters in this thread did either.

Take care,
 
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97pssat04golfTDIs said:
I did this with a PD auto tranny, you can continue to enjoy your new tune and 17/22 turbo but if you were smart and had to drive in Washington DC traffic like I do you would take it easy. Let the slow line of traffic help by laying back and going easy with the flow. I still make some harder accelerations to change lanes and to get over to the right lane, but it is not that hard to get an over 800 tank if you vent and drive under 70. Last time I looked the top MPH on the interstate around here is 65. I never drive under the speed limit, unless everyone is, due to clusterF#$K traffic blocking the road. Try taking it easy for the 1st 1/4 tank then refill "vented" and see what you get, you maybe surprised.

No need to be hostile or just because you have not done it this must not be possible. I know I don't fudge on numbers, I doubt most other posters in this thread did either.

Take care,
My worst mileage was achieved with the stock car. Before the 17/22 and the big tune my mileage log shows 40-43mpg tops. City, highway, on cruise set at 67, long trips, 100 degree weather with AC on, or below 30, same mileage. BTW my tank is vented, and I slowly pump and let the foam dissapate and refill until I can see fuel in the neck. I have NEVER been able to squeeze more than 15.6 gal into the tank AFTER driving with the fuel warning light on for 40-50 miles.

I buy this if you are driving a big Passatt with a larger tank, but not an MK4 Jetta, Golf, Beetle. I can almost buy the 800 mile trip, but claims of 870 and such are bogus. MAYBE on RARE occasions with an ALH, flat roads, no wind, moderate ambient temp and very slow careful driving 800 or very low 800's ok, but 870 to 900? Jealously? No. Getting pissed at big BS fish stories. Yes. There are some claims in this thread of getting nearly 900 loaded to the gills. I do not know about your cars, but two bags of cat litter and groceries in the car you can really feel that weight.

If someone is getting 800+ they are lying, driving too slow endangering others, pulling up at the station on fumes or all of the above. I have chatted with many gurus that say this mileage is not possibile.
 

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LiLredTDI said:
My worst mileage was achieved with the stock car. Before the 17/22 and the big tune my mileage log shows 40-43mpg tops. City, highway, on cruise set at 67, long trips, 100 degree weather with AC on, or below 30, same mileage. BTW my tank is vented, and I slowly pump and let the foam dissapate and refill until I can see fuel in the neck. I have NEVER been able to squeeze more than 15.6 gal into the tank AFTER driving with the fuel warning light on for 40-50 miles.

I buy this if you are driving a big Passatt with a larger tank, but not an MK4 Jetta, Golf, Beetle. I can almost buy the 800 mile trip, but claims of 870 and such are bogus. MAYBE on RARE occasions with an ALH, flat roads, no wind, moderate ambient temp and very slow careful driving 800 or very low 800's ok, but 870 to 900? Jealously? No. Getting pissed at big BS fish stories. Yes. There are some claims in this thread of getting nearly 900 loaded to the gills. I do not know about your cars, but two bags of cat litter and groceries in the car you can really feel that weight.

If someone is getting 800+ they are lying, driving too slow endangering others, pulling up at the station on fumes or all of the above. I have chatted with many gurus that say this mileage is not possibile.
How about a steady 65 mph, anticipate stops so almost no use of brakes, 17.2 gallons in the tank (even that one surprised me:eek:), and all this with a 2005 Golf with manual 5 speed. This was a one in a million 900 mile tank.

Now my average miles per tank is about 750. And I put about 16.2-16.6 gallons into it on average. I have the vent valve removed so I fill the expansion space at the top of the tank to get the extra fuel in. So I get about EPA estimated highway or slightly more. Nothing magic or fish story about that.

Jason
 

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More than likely everyone who posted here:

1. Drove the posted speed limit. Pass and go 80 if you want to, you will get the ticket where I live, not me.

2. Accelerated easily. Got in the highest gear as fast as they could without revving the engine.

3. Stayed in gear and downshifted (when possible) slowing down.

I know they aren't liars. By reading what others have posted and learning from them, that's how to improve your mpg.


LiLredTDI said:
My worst mileage was achieved with the stock car. Before the 17/22 and the big tune my mileage log shows 40-43mpg tops. City, highway, on cruise set at 67, long trips, 100 degree weather with AC on, or below 30, same mileage. BTW my tank is vented, and I slowly pump and let the foam dissapate and refill until I can see fuel in the neck. I have NEVER been able to squeeze more than 15.6 gal into the tank AFTER driving with the fuel warning light on for 40-50 miles.

I buy this if you are driving a big Passatt with a larger tank, but not an MK4 Jetta, Golf, Beetle. I can almost buy the 800 mile trip, but claims of 870 and such are bogus. MAYBE on RARE occasions with an ALH, flat roads, no wind, moderate ambient temp and very slow careful driving 800 or very low 800's ok, but 870 to 900? Jealously? No. Getting pissed at big BS fish stories. Yes. There are some claims in this thread of getting nearly 900 loaded to the gills. I do not know about your cars, but two bags of cat litter and groceries in the car you can really feel that weight.

If someone is getting 800+ they are lying, driving too slow endangering others, pulling up at the station on fumes or all of the above. I have chatted with many gurus that say this mileage is not possibile.
 

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SilverGhost said:
...17.2 gallons in the tank (even that one surprised me:eek:)...
Jason
So the tanks are 17 gallons fully vented up to the filler neck? Because I've had the light come on and driven to the point where it was almost on E (or at least looked like it was on E) and I could only fit about 14.4 gallons so I was under the impression it was a 15 gallon tank :confused:. Do I really have more left in there thank I'm thinking?
 

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LiLredTDI said:
I have putzed ....
I drive 21 miles each way to work. That seems fairly average.

75% of that is highway. The rest is on stoplight infested surface streets.

If I do 80mph, it takes me 30 minutes to get to work. An average door-to-door speed of 42mph.
If I do 60mph, it takes me 32 minutes to get to work. An average door-to-door speed of 40mph.

If I do 80 mph, I get 42mpg.
If I do 60 mph, I get 53mpg.

Tell me. Who's the mathematically challenged one? It's the people who expend so much effort to drive as fast as they can...
yet never put a hard thought into what (if anything) it actually gets them... that are smoking the greens.
 

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Variant TDI said:
I drive 21 miles each way to work. That seems fairly average.

75% of that is highway. The rest is on stoplight infested surface streets.

If I do 80mph, it takes me 30 minutes to get to work. An average door-to-door speed of 42mph.
If I do 60mph, it takes me 32 minutes to get to work. An average door-to-door speed of 40mph.

If I do 80 mph, I get 42mpg.
If I do 60 mph, I get 53mpg.

Tell me. Who's the mathematically challenged one? It's the people who expend so much effort to drive as fast as they can...
yet never put a hard thought into what (if anything) it actually gets them... that are smoking the greens.
If you are achieving these numbers (high 800's) you are lying or attempting to hypermile. I pass TDI's all the time on Route 50 from the Eastern shore who commute to DC. They are going 50-55 on a 65mph road clogging traffic and creating an unsafe condition for others. Prius owners with thier stupid MPG computer doing the same thing.

Open rural roads that are somewhat flat with no traffic, car empty, never going over 55, well then ok 800 miles give or take per tankful MAYBE on a god day, But claims of 800 to 900+ with more than one person, or with a loaded car are bullsh*t.

I have tried numerous long highway trips with the cc set at 59, coasting down long hills in neutral, coasting to stops in neutral, and up shifting never going above 1500RPM, no AC, windows up, tires inflated to 42PSI and my mileage barely changes but 1-2MPG.

I have asked gurus about this after reading claims on here feeling that something was amiss with my car, and they have said my mileage is normal and not to pay attention to the woefully inaccurate fish that got away story tellers.
 

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Your mileage is normal. For a PD. Luckily for me... I don't have that particular handicap.

But your assertion that I should drive faster, burn 20-25% more fuel, and still not arrive any earlier just because everyone else does is... well... flat out irrational.

But I do enjoy how comfortable you are calling someone a liar through the safety of a keyboard and monitor. But, if it allows you to digest your dinner, you can go on believing that. I'll still sleep fine.

I'll continue to do my 60-65 in the right lane, and as I am still breaking the law, which is 55mph where I live... I don't expect to be harassed by anyone for doing it.
 

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lilred-
get one of your "gurus" to post here and call people liars like you do. i'd like to see who they are and hear they're actual logic.

you've got quite a few mods for power. maybe you enjoy them too much? i know i'd have a hard time keeping off the go-pedal with those...
 

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-Adonis- said:
So the tanks are 17 gallons fully vented up to the filler neck? Because I've had the light come on and driven to the point where it was almost on E (or at least looked like it was on E) and I could only fit about 14.4 gallons so I was under the impression it was a 15 gallon tank :confused:. Do I really have more left in there thank I'm thinking?
There seems to be some variation from model to model, but 16.7 to 17.1 gallons is what the mk 4 cars can hold in the tank. They have a designed capacity if 14.5 gallons, then they have a volume built into the tank to compensate for fuel expansion. A few here have drained their fuel tanks for various reasons and verified these numbers.

Jason
 

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tditom said:
lilred-
get one of your "gurus" to post here and call people liars like you do. i'd like to see who they are and hear they're actual logic.

you've got quite a few mods for power. maybe you enjoy them too much? i know i'd have a hard time keeping off the go-pedal with those...
I have consulted in a handful of guru's for thier opinion and advice. They are some of the most highly respected talented technicians working on these cars. I will not use thier name, when I can simply post the truth from expirience of my own and others. Of my close personal circle of friends who drive TDI's NONE of them achive these #'s.

Yes I do have mods, but when traveling long distances I use cc and set it for slightly over the posted limit (4mph).

Hummm............lets see..... 800 miles driven, divided by 16 gallons of fuel= 800 mpg 900 miles driven, divided by 16 gallons of fuel=56.25mpg.

I have a hard time believeing unless circumstances were perfect and nearly every usable drop of fuel was used to the point of gambling with being stranded that it is possibile to achieve regular mpg returns such as this.

Flat road, no turns, no hills, no cargo, one person in car, cool weather, excellent fuel, no wind, no AC, windows up, fully inflated tires, 60mph tops, coasting to filling station on fumes, highly waxed paint to eliminate extra drag and god sitting next to you..............well yeah MAYBE.

Like dealers posting mileage of 70mpg and what not, these claims are just as inflated.

I also see people claiming that they are pumping nearly or over 17 gal. of fuel into thier tank on an MK4. The tanks are made in a mould and any varience would be minute if any.

It is not fair to new members to spout this drivel. This site is for creditiable information to be shared and learned from. It is not the modern corner bar, where "the fish that got away" stories are told.
 

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Back at Ya

LiLredTDI said:
If you are achieving these numbers (high 800's) you are lying or attempting to hypermile. I pass TDI's all the time on Route 50 from the Eastern shore who commute to DC. They are going 50-55 on a 65mph road clogging traffic and creating an unsafe condition for others. Prius owners with thier stupid MPG computer doing the same thing.

Open rural roads that are somewhat flat with no traffic, car empty, never going over 55, well then ok 800 miles give or take per tankful MAYBE on a god day, But claims of 800 to 900+ with more than one person, or with a loaded car are bullsh*t.

I have tried numerous long highway trips with the cc set at 59, coasting down long hills in neutral, coasting to stops in neutral, and up shifting never going above 1500RPM, no AC, windows up, tires inflated to 42PSI and my mileage barely changes but 1-2MPG.

I have asked gurus about this after reading claims on here feeling that something was amiss with my car, and they have said my mileage is normal and not to pay attention to the woefully inaccurate fish that got away story tellers.
Only those who know how to be patient, pay attention to detail and most likely use a scan guage get the high MPG numbers. I am making a logical deduction that you are greatly lacking in all three of the above. You never mention using a scan gauge and I know some highly regarded Gurus that do not think much of them. Hey everybody's got an opinion the Guru's have the right to believe what they want and everyone is wrong now and then. Attention to detail, your signature says it all, you are running a, "Dual Exaust#bar MAP" I've never heard of a #bar map maybe that is hurting your MPG along with that Exaust thing you got. #2 Fail! Your blatantly calling many folks liars and your anger with slow drivers, illustrates your patience department maybe a bit sparse. Heck slow driver piss me off like hell also. What amazes me is how I have gradually developing the skills and patience with having a scan gauge to educate myself about how to drive for better efficiency and have fun. There maybe some fish stories on this site but don't call EVERYBODY on this thread a LIAR that's just flat out dumb. I think I know who 2 of your Gurus are, they are great guys, but just because you don't know how to drive correctly and they have said something, does not make it become true. Maybe if you are nice, somebody will give you a ride at the TDI Fest that has a scan gauge and show you how to drive for MPG. The big numbers are possible, and men did land on the moon:).

Take care,
 
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LiLredTDI said:
..........I have a hard time believeing unless circumstances were perfect and nearly every usable drop of fuel was used to the point of gambling with being stranded that it is possibile to achieve regular mpg returns such as this..........
LilredTDI - I know I'm kind of stirring the pot here with you and all this MPG stuff, but I take exception to the above quoted statement.

My last 4682.6 miles took 90.577 gallons for an average of 51.69 MPG. This is with 11mm/PP502's/RC6/17-22, etc. This is with no consideration for driving for mileage - set the cruise at 5 over the speed limit and drive on road trips, and ~45 MPH in 5th for local errands. I had two 850 mile tanks in there as well.

Over 96,947 miles and 1,864.591 gallons of fuel the lifetime average is 51.99 MPG.

A personal long term best is 12,279.5 Miles with 196.164 Gallons for an average of 62.59 MPG from late April 2006 to late November 2006. Mods were PP502's, RC2, Big Exhaust, 0.681 5th. I'll be the first to admit it takes a chunk of work to achieve a 62 MPG average. I don't think anyone's hiding that.

I fill up at the same station using the same pump, same nozzle facing the same direction. I've got no reason to lie about it. Check out some of the others who've consistently done well in MPG's.

Ernie Rogers, Watercop, GDR703, daBooj, BioBob, NoOneOfConsequence, are some of the better ones. I've got a co worker who dosen't do much on the forums who regularly returns mid/low 50's on a stock 02 TDI, Another former co-worker who regularly gets ~60, but he drives really easy.

Maybe to put a last nail in the coffin so to speak - my last tank was pulling a trailer. I grossed 6400 lbs for 250 miles and 4100 lbs for 250 miles, 125 miles of each at 60 and 70 MPH and averaged 35.8 MPG for the tank.

Believe it or not I guess, but just because you can't do it doesn't mean it's not possible.
 

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LiLredTDI said:
It is not fair to new members to spout this drivel. This site is for creditiable information to be shared and learned from. It is not the modern corner bar, where "the fish that got away" stories are told.
If members hadn't spouted this, "Drivel" as you say... I would relegated myself to mediocrity, and accepted 42mpg as the best I could hope do, and 14.5 gallons as the most the tank can take before I was walking.

Self Control. Scan Gauge. Knowing your fuel gauge. And checking your ego at the door. And then... maybe your fish won't get away so often.
 

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LiLredTDI said:
I have consulted in a handful of guru's for thier opinion and advice. They are some of the most highly respected talented technicians working on these cars. I will not use thier name, when I can simply post the truth from expirience of my own and others. Of my close personal circle of friends who drive TDI's NONE of them achive these #'s.
....
hmmmm... i don't believe you. i guess that makes you the "liar".:eek:
 

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97pssat04golfTDIs said:
Only those who know how to be patient, pay attention to detail and most likely use a scan guage get the high MPG numbers. I am making a logical deduction that you are greatly lacking in all three of the above. You never mention using a scan gauge and I know some highly regarded Gurus that do not think much of them. Hey everybody's got an opinion the Guru's have the right to believe what they want and everyone is wrong now and then. Attention to detail, your signature says it all, you are running a, "Dual Exaust#bar MAP" I've never heard of a #bar map maybe that is hurting your MPG along with that Exaust thing you got. #2 Fail! Your blatantly calling many folks liars and your anger with slow drivers, illustrates your patience department maybe a bit sparse. Heck slow driver piss me off like hell also. What amazes me is how I have gradually developing the skills and patience with having a scan gauge to educate about how to drive for efficency and fun. There maybe some fish stories on this site but don't call EVERYBODY on this thread a LIAR that's just flat out dumb. I think I know who 2 of your Gurus are, they are great guys, but just because you don't know how to drive correctly and they have said something, does not make it become true. Maybe if you are nice, somebody will give you a ride at the TDI Fest that has a scan gauge and show you how to drive for MPG. The big numbers are possible, and men did land on the moon:).

Take care,
well put
 

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here's my personal best on the A4
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=512562&postcount=43
but that whole thread is infested with pathological liars- right lilred? :rolleyes:

btw, do you talk to people in person that way? do you have any of your original teeth left? :confused:

i see your profile has you as a 41 year old male. If you have talked to people like that in person all your life, and have not gotten a right proper beat-down, you must be a real bad-ass. :eek: If not, then you're just another pussy hiding behind a keyboard and monitor. ;)
 
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tditom said:
here's my personal best on the A4
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=512562&postcount=43
but that whole thread is infested with pathological liars- right lilred? :rolleyes:

btw, do you talk to people in person that way? do you have any of your original teeth left? :confused:

i see your profile has you as a 41 year old male. If you have talked to people like that in person all your life, and have not gotten a right proper beat-down, you must be a real bad-ass. :eek: If not, then you're just another pussy hiding behind a keyboard and monitor. ;)
Not hiding................by a long shot, and still enjoying a nice ear of corn on occasion with no problems chewing it.

My whole point here is that there are alot of new people here for information as wess as affirmation of the hyped numbers of mpg people claim TDI's get which are in large part untrue. I love mine and am not unhappy or jealous with it's 47mpg it gets.

To get super duper mileage is a hobby and not really driving a car for the sake of getting from A-B. I see people in TDI's, Prius's etc looking at that damn mileage computer paying close attention to the rpm's, fuel consumption etc., but NOT PAYING ATTENTION to the road. This is every bit as bad as taking on a cell phone. Your attention to this and non attention to road for your little "hobby" makes you oblivious to others on the highway and traffic patterens and speeds. My Father was guilty of this as well when he had a car with a built in econ-o-meter. The true mileage of a car is an average of how most people drive. I am not a moron who does not understand how you can achive large numbers. I know and understand how to "nurse" the car and it's power to weight ratio for great economy, as well as taking advantage of coasting coming to stops, down hills etc. I always take my car out of gear and coast to lights, mostly to save my clutch. When driving through mountians and such, If the downward hill is ample, I shift to neutral as well and coast mostly to take advantage of the few minutes of silence as I am running no cat or muffler.

I do take exception of people posting like some of these numbers are the norm for TDI's. Additionally, people claiming to jam nearly 18 gal. into a tank are crazy. Look at your owners manual at the capacities section. VW did not make some tanks a couple of gal. larger than others on the same models. I did not make the tanks, but I am sure they are made in an injection mould from 1 origional which would make every tank nearly identical. Another exception I have with this is high 800's to some of almost 1000:eek: this is as equivilent to and as unbelieveable as the "Rat Boy" at the county fair. Especially when some people are claiming to have done wthis while regular commuting and mixed driving. The people who set the world record in the 09 got worse mileage than some of you and they did it as thier mission and job with no concern of time it was tkaing them etc.

Anyway, have your fun I will stop posting and return to the real world. I will reserve my posts for people who prefer real world information of what to expect from thier TDI"s.
 

97pssat04golfTDIs

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Rockville, Maryland USA
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1997 Passat GLS TDI traded in, 2004 Golf GLS, 2004 Passat GLS Sold in Nov. 2012
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Red,
You maybe a nice guy if you can get by your very sharp opinions and accusations. I have observed the crawling hyper milers and I do not like them either. I can still get high 700's and over 800 in my auto tranny 04 Golf when I just use it for my daily commute to work and back 32 mile round trip. I have also fit 16.5 gallons in my tank and know of others putting high 16's or 17.1 or 17.2 in their tanks once. No one on here has said they can fit 18 or "nearly 18 gallons" as you stated. The 2005 and back TDI's have the gasoline tank on them that have an expansion bubble on top. The strict capacity is listed at 14.5 gallons the expansion area on top will hold 2.5 gallons, that is 17 gallons as Mr Gutwrench has stated some member who have drained their tanks when doing work or having run their car completely out of fuel and verified that figure.
The not paying attention guess on your part is from watching other drivers and your assuming that anyone who supposedly gets high mileage must be driving like them. Have you observed a known TDI club member driving in the manner you describe, I don't think so, just speculation on your part. Hey heavy mods allows for great acceleration which facilitates great long coasting distances.
I know you have made up you mind and we are all wrong and you are right so enjoy your "real world" delusions of who is stretching the truth. I know what I am doing and if I can get what I get on an auto tranny I know a manual could return the numbers you do not believe with normal driving.

Take care,
 

White Crow

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Maine
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2002 gls tdi
I have a friend that owns a Toyota Corolla he has tried every thing to get better fuel mileage every trick that comes along including a scan gauge. I drove his car for 1 week because it was not the car but the driver my mileage was better then 6 MPG then his. I drive about 100 miles a day and have been driving a standard trans car for 48 years I do not drive for mileage I drive to get back and forth to work but I do drive sensibly. When it is -10 outside my TDI drops as low as 49 MPG when it’s warm it has done as well as 56 MPG. So if every day you drive is a race your mileage is going to suck. Past experience has shown me that people that say they get 50 MPG+ in their TDI are good all around drivers and not necessarily hypermilers if your mileage is poor you need to change your driving habits it’s not us.
 

Mark G

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DE
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1999 Beetle TDI
I drive back and forth to work also. I never claimed to always get 800 miles per tank. That is the best tank I ever got. Hopefully I'll get 900 some day. It's just hard for me to ignore the low fuel light.

:)
 

eats1963

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May 7, 2007
Location
Saint Anne, IL
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2015 Passat TDI SEL Premium
My vehicle is pretty much stock, with the exception of removing the EGR in lieu of the DG Racepipe, and I also did the ventectomy. I would say that the majority of my driving is highway or interstate (between 80 & 90%), and I almost always use the cruise control. I set it at 61 on the speedo in the 55 zones (which according to my TomTom GPS is 58), and 68 in the 65 zones. I do the "Italian Tune Up" nearly every time I get on the Interstate. During the Summer months, I can easily get 800 miles on a tank, but more often then not I fill up before that because I refuse to pay the higher cost of diesel due to City of Chicago taxes on fuel. I don't feel that I am a hinderance to any other driver on the road, and I pay attention to my surroundings, and don't focus on the MPG's. It's not hard to achieve high MPG's with these vehicles.
 
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