2015 Passat Timing belt change CVCA

[GolfRRRR]

Looking at doing the timing belt on my wife's 2015 CVCA TDI, the one year wonder.
Anyone have a link to an inexpensive tool kit? I see there are two kinds, one that bolts into the crank (purple anodized and one that uses the 'teeth' on the crank to hold it. Will either work? The 'teeth' kit is on Amazon for under $60 and the other kit I've found is more than twice the price.

Please let me know what you have used and had success with, I plan to do the timing belt only 2-3 times as by the third time I'll be too old or too tired to do it myself. BTW, this VW has been perfect for 114,000 miles and I've only bought snow tires, new summer tires (Continental Pure Contact LS) and front rotors and pads. Excited to join the group.

-Chad

 

[roni024]

For the money you're saving by doing the TB yourself, I think it justifies buying the good Metalnerd tools. Also, be sure to buy a replacement stud for the tensioner so you don't have to mess with the motor mounts.

There's a great walk-through at myturbodiesel.com. You'll need to be a member to access the whole thing, for a $10 donation (IIRC).

Good luck!

 

[740GLE]

idparts will be your hook up on quality tools.

 

[GolfRRRR]

Thanks for the replies, wife got a quote for $1865 just for the timing belt change at the dealer.
Went to idparts and all in for parts and tools for timing belt change, dsg service and oil change (basically a 40k service kit) it's just under $700

 

[740GLE]

how many miles on you're 15?

hey for that 1865 they are at least changing the water pump unlike my dealer that quoted $800 because "water pumps are only inspected and not replaced during TB changes".
Needless to say I never booked my TB job there.

 

[Fixmy59bug]

"water pumps are only inspected and not replaced during TB changes".

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. That has to be the stupidest goddamn thing I've ever heard.

How do you inspect an internal water pump? Look at the pulley "Yup, doesnt wiggle, it must still be good"?

What in the hell is wrong with these people? It's an extra 2 minutes, and that's IF you're a complete dumbass and cant figure out how to remove/reinstall the 3 bolts...

Good thing you got away from there.

Edit: I can't believe Double U Tee Eff is censored on this site. That's amusing.

 

[fredthe]

Yep, my dealer wanted an extra $500 (on top of the ~$1.9k) to do the water pump with the TB change. Had it done at a local "trusted" TDI shop for $1k total.

 

[06bluebeetletdi]

I can’t imagine doing one without the other. My water pump failed at 53,000 miles and dripped coolant on both the timing and serpentine belts. I am all good until 180k now.

 

[GolfRRRR]

how many miles on you're 15?

hey for that 1865 they are at least changing the water pump unlike my dealer that quoted $800 because "water pumps are only inspected and not replaced during TB changes".
Needless to say I never booked my TB job there.

We're at 115,000, I'm planing on doing the 120K service (DSG, Filters and Oil change) at the same time I do the timing belt. If I have enough gumption I'll also give her a well deserved detail and ceramic coating

Does anyone have a service manual/copies?

 

[740GLE]

That's a nice weekend planned right there. Just spent a good 4 hrs doing our 40K (DSG) this past weekend. Second time doing a DSG first time doing the over fill drain method, wasn't bad if I had put in what I guessed what I thought drained out, I would have over filled by .2L or so so glad I did the proper method. Will have to do the Alltrack DSG in about 2 months.

Ohh and adjusted the H&R rear sway bar to fill stiff, I bet the wife won't even notice, even though I did.

 

[Fastbird]

Thanks for the replies, wife got a quote for $1865 just for the timing belt change at the dealer.
Went to idparts and all in for parts and tools for timing belt change, dsg service and oil change (basically a 40k service kit) it's just under $700

Find a new dealer. My local dealer charges $975 for a timing belt job including water pump and fluids. I have a 2012 but the 15 is very similar. Pieced together my own kit and got the cheap tools.....all in I did the job for just over $300.

 

[kamsox11]

For the money you're saving by doing the TB yourself, I think it justifies buying the good Metalnerd tools. Also, be sure to buy a replacement stud for the tensioner so you don't have to mess with the motor mounts.

There's a great walk-through at myturbodiesel.com. You'll need to be a member to access the whole thing, for a $10 donation (IIRC).

Good luck!

Having trouble finding the walk-through for the CVCA. Do you have a direct link? Thanks!

 

[madmedix]

Site's been worked on...they're aware apparently. Hopefully back up soon.

 

[saucer]

Anyone know how similar the DIY on the other TDI site is for the CVCA? (Am I allowed to link it here?)

The three part walkthrough looks thorough enough, but is written for the CJAA & CBEA.

Thanks for any input!

 

[Franko6]

I'm working on a CVCA right now, 2015 Passat. There are three versions of this engine: The CKRA, CFFB and CVCA. The CKRA and CFFB have the
03L 199 207 mount, which appears that it does not need engine mount bolts removed in order to pull the timing belt. The CVCA engine has mount number 06K 199 207A . The bolts are ; 2-10 x 95 and 1- 10 x 105 and have to be removed, along with a pair of 12 x 70 engine to body mount bolts and a pair of 10 x 55 screws, one with a 5 x 70 stud. I use an engine support and there is an appropriate hole in the cylinder head casting to attach a clevis pin or shackle.

I wonder why in the world people think they need to destroy the tensioner stud to get it out. On the CKRA/ CFFB, the tensioner stud can easily be removed without damaging it. If the tensioner stud nut is removed, pull the tensioner toward the engine mount, remove the cam sprocket, as I suggest to do that anyway, and use a pair of alligator jawed vice grips to loosen the stud at it's base. No reason to destroy it... With the CVCA, there is no reason to remove the stud, as the engine mount has to be removed anyway.

I have wondered why VW waited this long to make an access hole in the internal fender skirt to aid removal of the rear upper engine mount bolt. Better late than never...

There are a lot of hoses in the way of the timing belt cover. The antifreeze expansion tank and fuel filter are easy enough to move, without removing any of the fuel lines or hoses. Both items can be laid across the front of the engine, where they are enough out of the way. The pressure sensors for before and after the particular emission box can both be removed with a single screw from the top of the engine. Unclip electrical lines to move the set. Lots of extra hoses to move from the top timing belt cover...

I choose to remove the center bolt from the Cam Sprocket. It's the last piece of the puzzle when installing the timing belt. I do like the simple way the cam adjustment works. Rather than the 3 bolts used in the PD cam sprocket, or the older ALH injection pump, there is a single small screw that adjusts the position of the cam sprocket.

I found the belt to be a bit frustrating to keep in position on the crank sprocket and the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP). I slid a screwdriver between the belt and shield around the HPFP to keep the belt from jumping cogs. On the crank, I used a set of C-clamp style vise grips to lightly hold the belt into place while I maneuvered the cam sprocket's location. That made the job very easy.

I will post some of the pictures I took during the job when I've got some time.

 

[calimustang]

bringing this back alive. I have CJAA timing belt tool kit. What exactly do I need to buy to work with CJAA tools for CVCA? I know I need one or two tools to make this possible. Also Frank06 please do share away your pics of your project.

 

[calimustang]

Also Frank06 please do share away your pics of your project.

I'm working on a CVCA right now, 2015 Passat.

I will post some of the pictures I took during the job when I've got some time.