2015 CR 150 tune available

[TDI BR]

Thought you guys might be interested in this.. Seeing as Malone is taking a while I was looking elsewhere. No one has an exhaust out yet either

http://www.revotechnik.com/product-details/software/volkswagen/golf-vii/199/stage-1/

Has anyone had any experience with REVO and their tunes for diesels?

 

[andyrooski17]

Thought you guys might be interested in this.. Seeing as Malone is taking a while I was looking elsewhere. No one has an exhaust out yet either

http://www.revotechnik.com/product-details/software/volkswagen/golf-vii/199/stage-1/

Has anyone had any experience with REVO and their tunes for diesels?

Given their discussion of the 1.6 Cr engine, seems like they probably developed the tune on the European 2.0 engine. Are we sure that their tune will be compatible with the North America cats with the additional emissions equipment?

 

[Hazel-rah]

I'm pretty excited about some other US customer being the first guinea pig and reporting back. Having numbers similar to GTD engine look quite appealing.

 

[JSWTDI09]

Has anyone had any experience with REVO and their tunes for diesels?

The Revo tune for the 2009-2014 TDIs is actually excellent. On the dyno, it appears to be pretty close to a Malone stage 2 tune. I know nothing about any Revo tune for the new MQB (2015+) engines.

Have Fun!

Don

 

[TDI BR]

When i get tuned i'm getting rid of the DPF and EGR. Probably end up with a resonated turbo-back.

 

[JSWTDI09]

When i get tuned i'm getting rid of the DPF and EGR. Probably end up with a resonated turbo-back.

In that case, Revo can't (won't) help you anyway. They do not sell a DPF delete tune in North America for legal reasons.

Have Fun!

Don

 

[WiszMaster]

When i get tuned i'm getting rid of the DPF and EGR. Probably end up with a resonated turbo-back.

Wondering about DPF delete, as DEF injection is incorporated into DPF unit.

 

[Hazel-rah]

Well, I would have taken one for the team and gotten the tune but Revo confirmed there is no release for the US yet.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1i2ipy8imulc48m/Gmail%20-%20Revo.pdf?dl=0

 

[lil'oilburner]

"the best balance between power delivery, economy, and longevity. Our stage1 software is designed to give you a better car, to improve your drive and exceed expectations of the standard car. It’s smooth, powerful and economic proving you can have your cake and eat it!"

-Quoted from REVO website

So, what's the downside? In factory tune the engine is designed to last, what 200k miles? How much of that life will the extra power take away? Can the DSG take the extra torque? Is the EA288 in Mk7 TDI the same engine as the GTD? Does the GTD come with DSG? If I regularly dip into the power, what kind of MPG degradation is expected?

What kind of performance gains can one expect? 0-60 improvement? Stage 1 conservatively will give 175 hp/ 280 ftlb, is this enough to beat GTD?

Standard tune GTI outruns GTD easily

IMHO...Keep the TDI stock and enjoy it's quickest slow car status...

 

[gnuworldorder]

"the best balance between power delivery, economy, and longevity. Our stage1 software is designed to give you a better car, to improve your drive and exceed expectations of the standard car. It’s smooth, powerful and economic proving you can have your cake and eat it!"

-Quoted from REVO website

So, what's the downside? In factory tune the engine is designed to last, what 200k miles? How much of that life will the extra power take away? Can the DSG take the extra torque? Is the EA288 in Mk7 TDI the same engine as the GTD? Does the GTD come with DSG? If I regularly dip into the power, what kind of MPG degradation is expected?

What kind of performance gains can one expect? 0-60 improvement? Stage 1 conservatively will give 175 hp/ 280 ftlb, is this enough to beat GTD?

Standard tune GTI outruns GTD easily

IMHO...Keep the TDI stock and enjoy it's quickest slow car status...

doesnt the dsg have a torque limit of 258ftlb stock?

 

[JSWTDI09]

doesnt the dsg have a torque limit of 258ftlb stock?

Yes, and this has proven to be an issue with the Revo ECU tune. See this thread: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=339602
The DSG controller's ability to limit torque during shifts can be very annoying. The better (more powerful) the engine tune is, the more you also need to have a DSG tune (or a manual transmission).

Have Fun!

Don

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

doesnt the dsg have a torque limit of 258ftlb stock?

I've had one tuner tell me that's not true any longer. Folks thought it was a limit but the clutches can easily handle more.

 

[lil'oilburner]

I've had one tuner tell me that's not true any longer. Folks thought it was a limit but the clutches can easily handle more.

My concern is that to get actual gains in performance, components will be stressed beyond design parameters. Within a 25% increase in power component life should not be affected by more than ~25% of component life; as this much tolerance is engineered in. And 25% isn't some magic or hard number... It's when you really boost power that parts start bending and snapping but this is where you'll see gains that make a difference.

That's why I wondered if the GTD engine although similar has upgraded fuel pump, injectors, turbo, etc. to reliably make more power or is the 150hp EA288 just a detuned GTD motor?

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

The original GTD engine was similar to the CJAA but has many differences including injectors, cylinder head, manifolds, cams, etc. Not sure there are as many differences in the EA288 version.

I managed to wear out my ALH engine in 290K miles by having it chipped since 30K, and making twice stock power for about 120K miles. Blowby became unmanageable at that point and I put a new engine in the car. Most people won't keep their cars that long, and my car got some pretty hard use in its life: Lots of track days.

If you want to maximize engine life, keep it stock, or close to stock.

 

[TDI BR]

Has anyone heard from Malone? Their tune was supposed to be out weeks ago..

 

[lil'oilburner]

The original GTD engine was similar to the CJAA but has many differences including injectors, cylinder head, manifolds, cams, etc. Not sure there are as many differences in the EA288 version.

I managed to wear out my ALH engine in 290K miles by having it chipped since 30K, and making twice stock power for about 120K miles. Blowby became unmanageable at that point and I put a new engine in the car. Most people won't keep their cars that long, and my car got some pretty hard use in its life: Lots of track days.

If you want to maximize engine life, keep it stock, or close to stock.

ALH is what, 90 or 110hp stock? Doubling the power, what were the performance gains? Did you time 0-60 or 1/4 mile?

120k modded miles is impressive but exactly illustrates my point. Clearly, TDIs are built to go at least 2-300k miles w/o a rebuild. Was it busting throwout bearings and eating clutches regularly?

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Didn't do a 1/4 mile in it, used it on road courses. Best dyno was 184/315 at the wheels. It didn't destroy clutches, just outgrew them. SBC Stage 2 Endurance worked great. Engine lasted 292K overall, which isn't bad. Could have rebuilt it but decided to go new instead.

 

[Ruso Turisto]

If you want to maximize engine life, keep it stock, or close to stock.

... but that would be so boring. Life is too short to stay stock.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

Certainly it is for me. My new engine is dialed back from the old, but still makes about 140/260 at the wheels. Lots of fun.

 

[lil'oilburner]

Certainly it is for me. My new engine is dialed back from the old, but still makes about 140/260 at the wheels. Lots of fun.

292K modded miles (w/ 184/315) is testament to how overbuilt the TDI motor is. Your current state of tune then should really have little effect on longevity and reliability.

Still, Tuners, please be honest about any downsides. If mileage is the only negative, which makes sense (more power=more fuel) but reliability is non-negotiable for me. I didn't buy a Golf TDI for speed but a little extra gravy would be nice!!

I'm curious, how did the 315ft/lb tune put the power down? I'm guessing lots of wheelspin at upshifts unless you feathered the go pedal.

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

I'm curious, how did the 315ft/lb tune put the power down? I'm guessing lots of wheelspin at upshifts unless you feathered the go pedal.

First was pretty useless. In second and third I learned how to get to the start of wheelspin and moderate the throttle. If the road wasn't dry and/or if I wasn't going straight you could break the tires loose in 4th. But it was great on the track.

Amazingly (to me, anyway) I still have the original axles in the car.

 

[JSWTDI09]

Amazingly (to me, anyway) I still have the original axles in the car.

If you put some stickier tires on her, I'll bet you could twist one.

Have Fun!

Don

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

I ran Hoosier R6s on the track. Those are pretty sticky.

 

[BuzzKen]

2015 with a tune moves along very nicely. Widens up that horribly narrow powerband.

 

[TDI BR]

2015 with a tune moves along very nicely. Widens up that horribly narrow powerband.

Hey man any updates on the 2015 Malone time frame?

 

[BuzzKen]

Hey man any updates on the 2015 Malone time frame?

Very very shortly. Updates this week.

 

[KERMA]

we've been testing a tune on our shop car 2015 GSW.
Dyno this week. stay tuned.

 

[WiszMaster]

Definitively interested in the malone tune.

 

[TDI BR]

Very very shortly. Updates this week.

I'm so excited to hear the results!

 

[AARodriguez Corp.]

I can hardly wait for the beans to be spilled, this is going to be fun