2013 Passat TDI DSG DMF question.

[motoracer47]

2013 PASSAT TDI SEL with DSG
175k miles
No codes, will throw up a VCDS scan if needed

A little back story..bought the car in February 2021 with a blown turbo. It still had some warranty left. When I went to check the car, I took my laptop/VCDS with me, ran a full scan, and verified turbo failure by logging requested boost pressure vs actual boost. Scan showed one of the glow plugs was also malfunctioning. Test drive indicated (besides the turbo) shocks were blown, and felt like a front lower control arm bushing was torn, heater core getting clogged (no passenger heat, but driver heat was ok) but other than that, no issues.

Fast forward to last week, finally picked up the car..new turbo, glow plugs..VW gave me free tires, brake pads, rotors, battery, oil and filter and fuel filter.

I start the car, and it’s got BAD DMF rattle! Like, really bad. Tech comes out looks at it, says it sounds like DMF failure. I said “weird, didn’t do that at all when I brought it in” he replied with basically..sorry for your LuK (pun intended)
Drive the car about 20 minutes, no sound at that point. Next morning, start the car, some rattle, but not nearly as bad. Fast forward a week, and I have only heard the sound once, very faintly on startup, but now doesn’t seem to do it at all. I don’t believe in parts fixing themselves, but it really seems like it’s no longer failing.

So question is..is it remotely possible that the car sitting for 10 months caused the springs in the DMF to seize? Does the rattle getting better mean it’s about to explode? I’ve never had a failed DMF before, but everything I have read says the rattle gets worse, not better. Shifting is fine, no rough idle, nothing indicates a bad DMF except for when I first got it back, and 2 occasions afterwards.

 

[motoracer47]

So the sound came back…it’s the DMF..got a few more question, hopefully someone can help out…

2013 Passat TDI (CKRA)
175k mile

So my DMF is failing and will have to pull the transmission. I have a few questions..
1—Every vendor but 1 shows the LuK DMF (LUK-4150744090) as the only option for my car, except for ID Parts.com shows both the LuK, and a Sachs unit (2295000541) that fit. When I search the Sachs part number, everything I find says it’s only for the Jetta and Golf. Is this a situation where the Sachs unit isn’t “technically“ for my car, but has been tested to work, or does ID Parts just have it listed wrong? Obviously I will contact ID Parts, but wanted to find out what others thought. (PS..I know ID Parts is a solid company and they sponsor and are on this forum, so not talking smack at all, but we all make mistakes, just trying to understand why everyone else says it won’t fit my car)

1.5–If the Sachs does indeed fit my car…opinion’s on LuK vs Sachs DMF for DQ250.

2–The car has 175k miles, and has no sign of clutch slip, however I plan to try and keep this till 350k if possible, and I suspect the clutchs won’t last that long…should I change out the clutch packs since I already have the transmission out? Would you if you were in my position? If so, would you risk it buying the frictions and steels and diy, or just buy the full clutch pack?
Thanks!

 

[d2freeman]

Just did this a few weeks ago.
Got everything from Rockauto and the flywheel fit perfect.
Here is the flywheel I used. LUK DMF 126, $327 and included the pilot bushing.

More Information for LUK DMF126

Here is the bolts, $8.48

More Information for VAICO V102544

Also, if you use the following code you will get 5% off. 189036619171600071, just enter in the box "how did you hear about us.

 

[motoracer47]

Thanks d2freeman! That is by far the best price I have seen for a DMF for our cars. I decided to go with that, and I’m not gonna worry about the clutch packs. If they eventually slip I’ll pull it again.

 

[motoracer47]

PS..For anyone wondering..I have a spare car, so the Passat is permanently parked until it’s fixed..not gonna take any chances. From what I have read, catastrophic DMF failure that results in transmission damage is more prevalent in manual cars than DSG cars, but still, better safe than sorry. I’m doing a complete front end suspension rebuild, so will pull the tranny, replace DMF, pilot bearing, and inspect clutch pack cover input splines all at once.

 

[martinrpm]

Just did this a few weeks ago.
Got everything from Rockauto and the flywheel fit perfect.
Here is the flywheel I used. LUK DMF 126, $327 and included the pilot bushing.

More Information for LUK DMF126

Here is the bolts, $8.48

More Information for VAICO V102544

Also, if you use the following code you will get 5% off. 189036619171600071, just enter in the box "how did you hear about us.

My wife's 13 passat ckra dsg se started making dmf noises, and i dont know which flywheel to order, i see DMF 181 whenever i look it up, but you said you used DMF126 and i also see that some places. i want to make sure i dont order the wrong one. plz help!

 

[d2freeman]

Correct the DMF126 is what I used and it worked perfect, no issues and it has now been close to 40k miles.
Comes with the pilot bearing but you will need to order the bolts.

 

[x1800MODMY360x]

I got my DMF from FCPEURO, a little more than everyone else but lifetime warranty.

 

[740GLE]

the NMS probably won't live through needing two DMF's, unless you really really beat on it.