2010 Jetta TDI

need4speed

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NateTDI said:
This is yet another reason for the US to conquer Canada and turn it into the 51st state.
Joking or not; we effectively did that to Germany, where these cars come from. Frankly, we should just hand them over to the Japanese, and maybe we'd get a better outcome. . . :p So much for imperialism.

(disclaimer: sending my 16yr old son to Germany for 4 wks on an exchange program this June. . . gulp!)
 

newdie

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New Mexico
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2010 JSW TDI
ytdi said:
I'm thinking of buying a '10 TDI, but I'm getting a bit scared to do so. Everything I read from the DSG problems to engine lights coming on and hard starting in the winter makes me wonder why I would want to invest the kind of money VW demands for this "inferior" product. VW's President states he wants to make VW a world class car and replace Toyota sounds to me to be "wishful thinking."
I am new here. You look back at some of these older threads and find good stuff. How is the Toyota working out for ya?
My 2010 Corolla needed a new transmission at 2500 miles. I got rid of it before "the brake fiasco."
 

Micbost1

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Boston, MA
TDI
2009 Jetta Sedan
Just thought I'd let you guys know, I have an '09 DSG Jetta with approx 15K miles and have had the exaust flap replaced earlier this year. My car has been in the dealer now since Friday with EGR issues. Similar story to some of the 2010s. They said it will take a day...7 days later I'm still stuck with a rental and no SIRIUS radio!!!:mad: btw I bought my '09 in Dec '08 so I've had it for a while.
 

slknight

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Maine
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2010 JSW
Add me to the list of those with EGR issues. Just bought my car (2010 JSW) 2.5 weeks ago and it's been back to the dealer twice.

The first time, the car was 4 days old (575 miles) when I got the flashing glow plug and limp mode. The dealer advised me to turn it off and back on and then it was fine. Took it in and they "removed and cleaned EGR valve" and updated software as directed.

The exact same thing happened to me again this week (approx 1200 miles). I went back to the dealer this morning. They told me that VW just released a new technical service bulletin about it last week and they just needed to update the software. They sent me home with a rental, and at the end of the day, they called me and told me I need a new EGR valve and it's going to be another week.:mad::mad:

They told me it was error code P0403 which someone else upthread had. It's not the error 305 that most of the people here seem to have had but they both seem to be EGR issues. :confused:

Needless to say I'm extremely ticked off. Any words of advice? I'm not even certain the new EGR valve is going to fix it since it seems like most people here have needed new O2 sensors. I have a 25+ mile highway commute each day and I don't exactly feel safe when the car all of a sudden goes into limp mode when I'm on I-95!:eek:
 

izkeepsitreal

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May 17, 2010
Location
Squamish
TDI
2010 Golf Wagon
We had our ECU flashed with latest software apparently that didn't require a O2 to be replaced. After driving the car I immediately noticed heavy fuel consumption, I was using about a quarter tank driving 70k. My wife has had the car "die out" on her 2x's since this update..

We're really pissed off at this point, we got lied to about BT in the car... and now having these issues (We too drive 70+K each way on the hwy for work) and almost causing 2 accidents while trying to merge on the highway isn't my cup of tea.

We attempted to contact our VW dealer however we then got notified that the dealer is no longer in business and was punted off to another dealer who punted us off to another and so on... after many un-helpful calls I hope to find some assistance and re-assurance in VW Canada's 1800# ...

hahaha ya right. They have about as much sympathy as I've got in my little finger.

I hope this is just a ECU update fix and not this Fuel Pump issues I've also been reading about..
 

synergy_man

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2010 Jetta sedan
See my thread on this issue.
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=275263&highlight=hiccup

I am also in BC and went through the dealer, they do not have a fix for this problem. Keep dated records of all problems and work with VW Canada to resolve ...that's what we did.

Feel free to PM me if you want to.
Good luck!

izkeepsitreal said:
We had our ECU flashed with latest software apparently that didn't require a O2 to be replaced. After driving the car I immediately noticed heavy fuel consumption, I was using about a quarter tank driving 70k. My wife has had the car "die out" on her 2x's since this update..

We're really pissed off at this point, we got lied to about BT in the car... and now having these issues (We too drive 70+K each way on the hwy for work) and almost causing 2 accidents while trying to merge on the highway isn't my cup of tea.

We attempted to contact our VW dealer however we then got notified that the dealer is no longer in business and was punted off to another dealer who punted us off to another and so on... after many un-helpful calls I hope to find some assistance and re-assurance in VW Canada's 1800# ...

hahaha ya right. They have about as much sympathy as I've got in my little finger.

I hope this is just a ECU update fix and not this Fuel Pump issues I've also been reading about..
 

JohnofD

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Location
Oregon
TDI
2010 Jetta Sportwagen
Has the "computer" been updated as of today?
I experienced the MIL well beyond the first few 100 miles, and it has been with me since March. After replacing O2 sensor, and after 10K service, my service center said bad fuel and recommended replacing the entire fuel system, so I think they win a prize of some sort. I'm getting a second opinion tomorrow, and will have all your threads as backup.
Scheisse is the Code that comes to mind...
 

wesk1954

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Aurora, OH
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09 Jetta TDI
I have an 09 TDI (Loyalty Edition, one of the first made) and at 67K miles, my CEL just illuminated two days ago. I was in HIGH hopes that restarting the car a few times might cause it to clear, but such is not the case. With most of you still enjoying warranties for this issue, it will become very interesting to see how my dealer handles this situation!!!

I've been using a local VW specialty shop for regular maintenance, but honestly I think the emmission system is too new for my local guy to be up to speed, so I feel I have little recourse but to return it to the dealer.

I did purchase an extended warranty from the dealer where I purchased the car, but unfortunately that dealership closed shortly thereafter, and now it appears the dealership I'm using does not work with this warranty service, although I'm sure I can find a workaround.

I was so hoping this car would remain flawless as it has thus far.

I'll keep you posted.

Wes
 
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Ottawa, ON, CANADA
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2010 Jetta
I have a 2010 Jetta TDI which had starting problems in the morning. They said they changed the fuel pump leading to the injector. worked fine for about a week and then the same problem while starting the car in the morning it cranks but just doesn't start.

The dealer is consulting with VW Technical centre in Michigan and are running test:
1) they put some gauges on the fuel lines to make sure it was holding pressure over night. It passed
2) next test is they are checking to see if it is a relay issue (bad relay).

I'm not very convinced that they will find the issue. After the care starts the first time it starts well the rest of the day. The problem is that there is no fault error recorded by the computer.

I know the 2009 models had a similar issue which was reseolved but they say it is not the issue on the 2010 (2.0 TDI engines).

I was wondering if it might have something to do with my clutch and the car not sensing that the clutch is fully depressed in the morning in order to start the car.

Any suggestion. Its pretty disappointing.
 
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2010 Jetta
2010 2.0 TDI Starting Issues PLEASE HELP :(

I have a 2010 Jetta TDI which had starting problems in the morning. They said they changed the fuel pump leading to the injector. worked fine for about a week and then the same problem while starting the car in the morning it cranks but just doesn't start.

The dealer is consulting with VW Technical centre in Michigan and are running test:
1) they put some gauges on the fuel lines to make sure it was holding pressure over night. It passed
2) next test is they are checking to see if it is a relay issue (bad relay).

I'm not very convinced that they will find the issue. After the care starts the first time it starts well the rest of the day. The problem is that there is no fault error recorded by the computer.

I know the 2009 models had a similar issue which was reseolved but they say it is not the issue on the 2010 (2.0 TDI engines).

I was wondering if it might have something to do with my clutch and the car not sensing that the clutch is fully depressed in the morning in order to start the car.
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Any suggestion. Its pretty disappointing.
 

wild03

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Miami FL
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I was wondering if it might have something to do with my clutch and the car not sensing that the clutch is fully depressed in the morning in order to start the car.
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Any suggestion. Its pretty disappointing.
Unlikely it is clutch pedal related, the point of the switch is not to allow the engine to turn since it could be in gear and move on starter power alone. If the clutch is not pressed you would turn the key and the engine will not turn at all.
 
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2010 Jetta
Does anyone have any ideas what it might be? I read some other threads and it seems it could either be:

-the starter motor that is not cranking at the right speed and would need to be replaced.

-I read that the car should be remapped (software / ECU update) to inject diesel when hot and cold as standard it doesn't inject when hot. Altough I get the feeling this is more of an issue when the car has been running and then you go to start a little latter on. My issue is only in the morning after the cars been sitting over nights its has been a hot July but Montreal is not hotter than most other places.

I just want my car back. I'm stuck with a CITY GOLF with no power looks and no power.
 
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Unlikely it is clutch pedal related, the point of the switch is not to allow the engine to turn since it could be in gear and move on starter power alone. If the clutch is not pressed you would turn the key and the engine will not turn at all.
What do you think might be the problem I read somewhere it could be the:
-starter motor which is not cranking at the right speed.
or
-the car should be remapped to inject diesel when hot and cold.
 

wild03

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What do you think might be the problem I read somewhere it could be the:
-starter motor which is not cranking at the right speed.
or
-the car should be remapped to inject diesel when hot and cold.
Hard to tell, I suggest you post this question on the section related to your car. You might find more help there.

One would think that if the starter is weak it will still be weak during the day. Did they changed you High pressure pump?
Might be fuel related then.
 

catishi

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MA
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'10 Jetta TDI
I have 19K on my '09 with no problems --until yesterday when the glow plug light came on and started to flash. There was a noticeable drop in power. I was near the dealership and they took me right in. They said the EGR valve had malfunctioned and explained how that affected my engine performance. The mechanic happened to come out and talked to me and said he didn't know why the EGR had stuck, but he'd cleaned it and ordered a new one which will arrive next week. I also had them do the DSG re-flash to get that over with. The car is running fine again.
JBright, I had the same experience today with my '10 DSG with only 2.1k miles! However, I pulled to the side of the road turned off the car and then turned the car back on and everything was fine. Motor power was restored and the light went off.

Any advice? I am taking it to the dealer tomorrow morning
 

jbright

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2009 Jetta DSG
JBright, I had the same experience today with my '10 DSG with only 2.1k miles! However, I pulled to the side of the road turned off the car and then turned the car back on and everything was fine. Motor power was restored and the light went off.

Any advice? I am taking it to the dealer tomorrow morning
There are many more members much more qualified than me to answer your question, but I'm pretty sure the blinking glow plug light is always a sign of an engine malfunction -- they have to run tests to see what code comes up on their computer, which will tell them the exact nature of the problem. You're doing the right thing by taking it in. It's probably something minor, but maybe not. Are you new to TDIs or have you owned them before? There are several minor issues and several major ones with the new cars. If you have time do a search on this site and read up so you won't be going into the dealership blind. If you already know all this, my apologies. Good luck. Let us know what happens.

PS. I haven't had a single problem since then. 31k now.
 
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catishi

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'10 Jetta TDI
Thanks for responding so quickly jbright. You were the first person in this thread that I found posted the same problem as me.

I just read thru every single post in this thread and I've seen 2 different problems:

CEL comes on
Glow Plug Light Flashes

The latter (glow plug light flashing) in all instances I remember (jbright, slknight, starbucker) experienced PERFORMANCE effects.

After I saw the glow plug light flash I noticed the car went 'limp' or lost power. I turned the car off and then back on and it got me about 15 miles home with no problems. I subsequently took the car for another small drive to see if I could notice anything and I could not. In any event, car is going to the dealer tomorrow... will update

JBright, This is my first VW. Since the problem today I have read this forum and found out about different issues people have experienced. Thx again
 

jbright

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Thanks for responding so quickly jbright. You were the first person in this thread that I found posted the same problem as me.

I just read thru every single post in this thread and I've seen 2 different problems:

CEL comes on
Glow Plug Light Flashes

The latter (glow plug light flashing) in all instances I remember (jbright, slknight, starbucker) experienced PERFORMANCE effects.

After I saw the glow plug light flash I noticed the car went 'limp' or lost power. I turned the car off and then back on and it got me about 15 miles home with no problems. I subsequently took the car for another small drive to see if I could notice anything and I could not. In any event, car is going to the dealer tomorrow... will update

JBright, This is my first VW. Since the problem today I have read this forum and found out about different issues people have experienced. Thx again
There's only one -- the dreaded HPFP meltdown -- that puts the fear of God in me. All the others, at least the ones I know about, I can deal with. It's probably not serious in your case. Keep us posted.

Edit: Oh, by the way. After my visit to the dealer that day, I drove my car for about a month with no issues while waiting for my new EGR valve to arrive. The mechanic said he didn't find anything wrong with it. It probably was a software glitch to begin with. Oh well. Cars are getting as complicated as spaceships.
 
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PDX_TDI

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2013 JETTA w/ PREMIUM PKG
Thinking of Buying a 2010 TDi

at 0% interest APR, Im thinking of selling my current silver bullet 2001 model, and getting into a spankin' new 2010 TDi........but reading some of these posts are making me nervous.... I was never a big fan of VW's auto tranny TDi models, which i have deciced to get a stick model of course...

any caveats ? (other than the usual EGR issue that may arise)....or should I happily head to the dealer before Sept 30th and sign my life away at $250.00 monthly payments?
 

PDX_TDI

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Thinking of Buying a 2010 TDi

at 0% interest APR, I'm thinking of selling my current silver bullet 2001 model, and getting into a spankin' new 2010 TDi........but reading some of these posts are making me nervous.... I was never a big fan of VW's auto tranny TDi models, which i have decided to get a stick model of course...

any caveats ? (other than the usual EGR issue that may arise)....or should I happily head to the dealer before Sept 30th and sign my life away at $250.00 monthly payments?
 

NateTDI

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OH
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Jetta, 2000 TDI, JSW 2010 TDI
at 0% interest APR, I'm thinking of selling my current silver bullet 2001 model, and getting into a spankin' new 2010 TDi........but reading some of these posts are making me nervous.... I was never a big fan of VW's auto tranny TDi models, which i have decided to get a stick model of course...

any caveats ? (other than the usual EGR issue that may arise)....or should I happily head to the dealer before Sept 30th and sign my life away at $250.00 monthly payments?
My vote is a resounding YES. The car is awesome!
 

WeathermanTN

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Kingston, TN
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2010 TDI Cup
All I can say is that our 2010 Cup model with manual 6-speed has been flawless, and we now have about 8,500 miles on the odo. I took a trip from Tennessee to Illinois earlier this month, and averaged 48.3 mpg (that was on the auto readout; 48.4mpg by hand) over the 1,287 miles. My wife just drove from Tennessee to Virginia, and averaged 44.8 mpg over the 590 miles. So far, I love the car!
 

PDX_TDI

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Beaverton, Oregon
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2013 JETTA w/ PREMIUM PKG
So I got a deal on a 2010 ..black leatherette with beige interior...5 speed and the 17" avignon wheels....for $23,700.....with 0% APR, the payments come to $267/ mth....

Any thoughts/comments?
 

Dan"Gerous"

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Michigan
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09 Jetta M6
PDX, your math is off unless you are putting a big chunk down. $23,700 divided by 60 is $395 per mo. If they would go 72 months you would still be at $329 per month.

For the record, I just passed 40,000 miles with zero issues.
 

PDX_TDI

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PDX, your math is off unless you are putting a big chunk down. $23,700 divided by 60 is $395 per mo. If they would go 72 months you would still be at $329 per month.

For the record, I just passed 40,000 miles with zero issues.

I forgot to mention id be putting down a lil over $5000....hehe

btw...is yours a stick or a 5 speed? I heard the automatics are problematic.
 
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