2010 Golf Mk VI Pricing

[panzer]

Got this link from the golfmk6 forums. Pricing from VW for the Golf and the GTI are out. Base 2dr is 21,900 and the base 4dr is 22,500. One problem I see is it showing the 2dr w/ 5spd man and the 4dr w/ 6spd man!? ***?!

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2003

 

[US_TDI?]

Why buy a golf tdi over a jetta tdi (about same price)?

So I had be interested in seeing what the price of the new golf tdi was going to be and now they announced it starts at right around 22,000. Thats pretty much where a jetta tdi starts at and apparently isnt supposed to get much (if any) better mileage. Because I'm less educated about this stuff than most of you on hear, I'm actually curious as to why you wouldnt buy the jetta or jetta wagon instead of the golf. If they had made the golf with a smaller engine, got better milage, and was cheaper I would get it. But I guess I don't get it. Dissapointing that no one seems to have plans to bring a smaller engine more affordable TDI to the states.

 

[US_TDI?]

Why buy a golf tdi over a jetta tdi (about same price)?

So I had be interested in seeing what the price of the new golf tdi was going to be and now they announced it starts at right around 22,000. Thats pretty much where a jetta tdi starts at and apparently isnt supposed to get much (if any) better mileage. Because I'm less educated about this stuff than most of you on hear, I'm actually curious as to why you wouldnt buy the jetta or jetta wagon instead of the golf. If they had made the golf with a smaller engine, got better milage, and was cheaper I would get it. But I guess I don't get it. Dissapointing that no one seems to have plans to bring a smaller engine more affordable TDI to the states.

 

[CMB430]

In my opinion, if you go much smaller, you should buy a Sentra, Prius or Yaris. The advantage of the TDI is good mileage, long lifespan, lots of power and is fun to drive. That is hard thing to juggle.

 

[frugality]

So I had be interested in seeing what the price of the new golf tdi was going to be and now they announced it starts at right around 22,000. Thats pretty much where a jetta tdi starts at and apparently isnt supposed to get much (if any) better mileage. Because I'm less educated about this stuff than most of you on hear, I'm actually curious as to why you wouldnt buy the jetta or jetta wagon instead of the golf. If they had made the golf with a smaller engine, got better milage, and was cheaper I would get it. But I guess I don't get it. Dissapointing that no one seems to have plans to bring a smaller engine more affordable TDI to the states.

The Jetta and Golf are the same size, so they will get essentially the same mileage. They always have.

As far as the Sportwagen goes, you will be seeing prices going up on them, too, when the new 2010 comes out. It has more goodies on it, like the multi-function steering wheel, etc. They will always have the wagon $2000+ more than the Golf, otherwise most people would buy the wagon.

 

[motoblue]

GTI and Golf pricing revealed at the Vortex (go to MKVI forum Ask a VW Salesman thread, start around page 47 or so).

The TDI skinny:

base 2 door manual: $21990
base 4 door manual: $22590
DSG: $1100
bi-xenon HID: $700 (up from previous info)
rear airbags: $350
sunroof: $1000
cold weather: $225 (down from previous info)
navigation: $1750

Also an optional radio upgrade. Bluetooth forced on the TDI ($199). Destination fee is $700, which is more than I paid last year.

My salesman said Nov/Dec before the TDIs start arriving (GTIs start coming in next month).

 

[bmwM5power]

pricey...jetta was chaper

 

[motoblue]

pricey...jetta was chaper

Yup. I am figuring about $500 more for a similarly optioned Golf than what i paid a year ago for my Jetta (since foglights added about $500 to my sticker). But there are perks...

17" wheels, sports suspension, foglights, better radio, available HIDs, cloth seats rather than pleather (arguable, but I like the cloth seats, anyway), and the biggie, a year to iron out the bugs (hopefully).

Not that there have been a lot of bugs with the 09 but I'm a hatch lover. Got in a pinch and couldn't wait for a JSW so went with the Jetta. She's been relatively good to me but I'm about 70% certain I'll be trading in next year after the hoopla about the MKVI dies down.

 

[frugality]

Given how many of the recent VW's sold were TDI's, it's easy to see that VW is looking to capitalize on this by making the TDI more 'high-content'.

Just watch the prices of the JSW and the Jetta go up as well. The Mk4 Jetta Wagon was ~$2000 more than a Golf. This makes sense -- if the wagon and the Golf were roughly the same price, there wouldn't be many folks who would take the Golf. So I would bet that the price of the 2010 JSW will be $2k higher than the price of the 4-door Golf, or up to a base price of $24,600 or more. But also with more goodies at that price.

And there's no way that they'd have the Golf being pricier than the Jetta sedan, so I'm sure the Jetta will go up as well.

So much for the idea of VW 'decontenting' their vehicles and lowering the price to get more market share...where'd that idea go...?

 

[lexa]

In my opinion, if you go much smaller, you should buy a Sentra, Prius or Yaris. The advantage of the TDI is good mileage, long lifespan, lots of power and is fun to drive. That is hard thing to juggle.

i think "your data is inaccurate":

1. size - new Sentra and Prius are ~ same size as Golf.
2. And Prius certainly has better mileage.
3. long lifespan, VW TDI can run longer, but may cost a fortune to keep it running. Moreover cars with average mileage below 34 MPG are outlawed after 2016, so one'll have plenty of mass produced high-mileage cars in 7 years - it may be more cost effective to replace 10 year old TDI with new design.
4. TDI has more torgue, sure. I have not trired Prius, it rated 105 ft-lbs., I wonder is battery and electric moror added to that. 105 is usual torgue # for a gas-only 1.8L engine. HP is about the same for Prius, and much higher for Sentra.
5. VW probalby is more fun to drive, but I assume it is not #1 priority for most VW TDI buyers.

Personally, I'm having hard time to justify basic Jetta sedans being sold for 16K while TDI wagon for 50% more...

 

[oilhammer]

LMAO... the Prius is no way the same size behind the wheel as a Golf. I sit in different cars all the time, the Germans continue to build cars for full-sized humans, the Japanese do not. Me sitting in a Prius has got to look like one of those clown cars at the circus to a bystander...my head is against the headliner, I cannot see out the windshield without craning my neck at some odd angle, my knees are bent into a pretzel, and my ass feels like I got to be someone's prison ***** for a day.

The Golf, which I just was in at fest, is perfectly roomy...steering wheel at arm's length, room above my head even with the sunroof, and my knees nice and comfy with my legs stretched out in front. No comparison.

And I have no doubt the CBEA engine will easily blow the doors off of a Prius, even though it weighs substantially more.

 

[lexa]

LMAO... the Prius is no way the same size behind the wheel as a Golf. I sit in different cars all the time, the Germans continue to build cars for full-sized humans

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full-sized humans

i'm 174 cm (5'8") and 90kg (185p) and yet to find a new car in NA market in which I cannot fit comfortably. I have not tried Prius yet, I might if I have a bit of time. But luggage volume with seats up is probably the smallest in Golf vs. Sentra or Prius.

ergonomics could be another matter...

 

[oilhammer]

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i'm 174 cm (5'8") and 90kg (185p) and yet to find a new car in NA market in which I cannot fit comfortably. I have not tried Prius yet, I might if I have a bit of time. But luggage volume with seats up is probably the smallest in Golf vs. Sentra or Prius.

ergonomics could be another matter...

LMAO... I have 5 inches and 100+ pounds on you my pint-sized friend. So yeah, you would have no idea. No Japanese cars for me. Geez, I think my wife is even taller than you!

 

[lexa]

LMAO... I have 5 inches and 100+ pounds on you my pint-sized friend. So yeah, you would have no idea. No Japanese cars for me. Geez, I think my wife is even taller than you!

sir, you certainly need new TDI VW more than I do

 

[SBAtdijetta]

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i'm 174 cm (5'8") and 90kg (185p) and yet to find a new car in NA market in which I cannot fit comfortably. I have not tried Prius yet, I might if I have a bit of time. But luggage volume with seats up is probably the smallest in Golf vs. Sentra or Prius.

ergonomics could be another matter...

+1 on Oilhammer's comments.

At 6'5" I just fit into my A5 Jetta comfortably and not by much, and that is with a bit of help. I drive with the seat all the way back. (Not even you would want to sit behind me...).

Even so the only way I don't sit too high in the car and have poor visibility and have my head skimming the headliner is to have the GLI/GTI (sport) seats put in the car. This is because they have a "sport" slanted seat bottoms and lowered all the way down they give you more head room than the standard seats....

Try finding a reasonably priced small-mid sized car with enough room to comfortably seat someone well over 6'... It is not easy and the Germans do it best .

I would like to get in the new Golf MKVI TDI and see how much room they have. With some options and HIDs available I could go for one I think. Sure would beat the fuel economy (or lack thereof) of the 2.0t GLI.

 

[TDIMOFO]

So I had be interested in seeing what the price of the new golf tdi was going to be and now they announced it starts at right around 22,000. Thats pretty much where a jetta tdi starts at and apparently isnt supposed to get much (if any) better mileage. Because I'm less educated about this stuff than most of you on hear, I'm actually curious as to why you wouldnt buy the jetta or jetta wagon instead of the golf. If they had made the golf with a smaller engine, got better milage, and was cheaper I would get it. But I guess I don't get it. Dissapointing that no one seems to have plans to bring a smaller engine more affordable TDI to the states.

The engine in the TDI jetta is a fantastic engine which is very efficient. The engine is capable of much more power but is configured to be as efficient as it is.
VW could at their option DE-Tune it further or greater efficiency or tune it for greater power output and torque.
The need for a new engine is just not there.
The other "issue" is one of market forces. The USA market demands that these vehicles have a certain amount of "power". (look at how toyota has increased the power of the Prius to be equal to that of a TDI, clearly the older Prius was WAY UNDER-POWERED). Using a smaller engine in the name of efficiency would cause the vehicle to be UNDER POWERED. As a result they would not sell enough of them to justify bringing the car to the US market.

As a TDI owner/driver YOU have the choice to drive efficiently. The choice is in your hands and your foot. The need for a car with a smaller engine and less power is just not there.

The TDI jetta has a record for efficiency. if driven properly (with an eye towards driving for mileage) it can be done without sacrificing power.

TDIMOFO

 

[oilhammer]

Toyota seems to sell plenty of those under-powered Priuses... not sure the American public has noticed.

But, the 'bigger-better-faster' mentality for the American market is hardly new, since we think 25 MPG is good and we must be able to do 0 - 60 in under 10 seconds all the time, yet drive like idiots.

Toyota was putting bigger engines in the their trucks just for us back in the 1960s .

 

[liQuid03x]

Any Canadian pricing available?

 

[lexa]

But, the 'bigger-better-faster' mentality for the American market is hardly new, since we think 25 MPG is good

given that prices at the pump are twice as less comparing to Europe and income is about the same, 25MPG does quite less damage to the wallet in US vs. Europe as 50 MPG is above what average European car gets.

free market rules (at least we are supposed to pretend that it does).

 

[xtoyz]

given that prices at the pump are twice as less comparing to Europe and income is about the same, 25MPG does quite less damage to the wallet in US vs. Europe as 50 MPG is above what average European car gets.

free market rules (at least we are supposed to pretend that it does).

Nevermind that their Euro is twice as strong though. That's not really an apples to apples comparison there.

 

[lexa]

Nevermind that their Euro is twice as strong though. That's not really an apples to apples comparison there.

1.46 = 2? that's too creative math

I compared real market prices/factors, no more no less.

 

[Canadia]

...I'm actually curious as to why you wouldnt buy the jetta or jetta wagon instead of the golf.

17" wheels, sports suspension, foglights, better radio, available HIDs, cloth seats rather than pleather (arguable, but I like the cloth seats, anyway), and the biggie, a year to iron out the bugs (hopefully).

^This is precisely why I never even glanced at the Jetta, yet now am seriously considering eating a year's depreciation on my current '09 Civic and trading it in on a new Golf. I'm also a hatch fanatic, and I'm really intrigued by diesels. After tucking my high-revving japanese petrol burner in for the night, i doze off to torque-filled teutonic dreams

 

[CMB430]

I must say for head room, my wife's Rabbit has the Jetta beat. I am not sure of the measurements, but I can get a vertical fist more between my head and the roof in her car, with the driver's seat set for me, than I can in the Jetta...which is a tight fitting vertical fist. Perhaps those of you who are taller...I am 5'10"...can see if the new body style has the same roof height as the 09. Just my input since I own one

 

[SnowCub]

I must say for head room, my wife's Rabbit has the Jetta beat. I am not sure of the measurements, but I can get a vertical fist more between my head and the roof in her car, with the driver's seat set for me, than I can in the Jetta...which is a tight fitting vertical fist. Perhaps those of you who are taller...I am 5'10"...can see if the new body style has the same roof height as the 09. Just my input since I own one

Judging by the Golf TDI from TDIFest, the Golf offers about 2 inches more headroom and a much better view out once your head gets up there. I'm 6'5" and "fit" in a Jetta without a sunroof but it's cramped and I need to look under the sunvisors to see out. Whereas the Golf I have lots of room to spare and I'm looking out a windshield. I'm going to try to stop by the VW dealer tonight. They supposedly have a 4 door GTI and 2010 JSW in stock so I can reconfirm my past experiences.

 

[JSWTDI09]

LMAO... I have 5 inches and 100+ pounds on you my pint-sized friend. So yeah, you would have no idea. No Japanese cars for me. Geez, I think my wife is even taller than you!

...and I have 5+ inches on you... and even I fit in my Jetta comfortably (with only minor modifications). No so in my wife's Civic.

 

[NYTDI]

Stopped by the dealer to take a look at the 2010 Golf (2.5) today. They also had a 2010 JSW TDI (sold).

Hohum, on the Golf - Cargo area / configuration / design is as bad as the rabbit was. Fold flat pass. front seat is gone.

Still no cloth seats for the 2010 JSW.

I'm seriously disappointed

And 28k sticker for a Golf TDI the way I'd like to order it - - maybe if I liked just about everything about it, but I don't. In some ways it is a step down / backward from our MK IV.

So when does the MK VII come out? 2013?

Meanwhile I'll be spending a bit of time ordering parts and in the garage doing all the preventative maint. I can think of to keep the 99.5 going strong for a few more years.

 

[alhutch]

Wha???

Stopped by the dealer to take a look at the 2010 Golf (2.5) today. They also had a 2010 JSW TDI (sold).

Hohum, on the Golf - Cargo area / configuration / design is as bad as the rabbit was. Fold flat pass. front seat is gone.

Still no cloth seats for the 2010 JSW.

I'm seriously disappointed

And 28k sticker for a Golf TDI the way I'd like to order it - - maybe if I liked just about everything about it, but I don't. In some ways it is a step down / backward from our MK IV.

So when does the MK VII come out? 2013?

Meanwhile I'll be spending a bit of time ordering parts and in the garage doing all the preventative maint. I can think of to keep the 99.5 going strong for a few more years.

I find your post somewhat confusing. How can any aspect of the MKVI be seriously described as a 'step down / backward'? Save reduced mileage, everything else has been improved. Better initial equipment (140hp CR TDI, 6 speed manual, IRS, sport suspension, 17" wheels, MF leather steering wheel, leather shift knob & e-brake handle) and factory options that previously required import from Europe at great cost (HIDs, Nav). And at $28k, that is with every available option.

Seriously, I'd like to know what you think it lacks compared to a MKIV.

 

[oilhammer]

Seriously, I'd like to know what you think it lacks compared to a MKIV.

Well, what I find lacking is the same (or more) of what was lacking in both previous generations: the lack of lack of options. If that makes any sense. I have no problem with a $28k Golf TDI loaded with goodies. I DO have a problem with that essentially being the only way to get it. That is as much as my Passat was (which was 'loaded' too)!

Why can't we have a few more options to have less options? Where is our $18k Golf diesel? I think there are something like 6 gas engines and 4 diesel engines available in a Golf in Europe. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying everyone would want a lesser trimmed car, but it would seem some of us would be happy with that, and others would actually be able to AFFORD to buy a 'People's Car' once again.

Let's hope the bloated Golf 6 price tag gets offset some here by VOA getting a clue and offering the Polo here...so long as they don't tooef that up with some giant gas engine too.

I purchased my daily driver Jetta with the planned use of 500k miles or 20 years. I am at 440k miles and 18 years now, and I fear when it comes time for me to buy a new car Volkswagen simply won'y have anything on their lots in this country that will fit my budget.

 

[chittychittybangbang]

FYI, invoice pricing is released, see my buyer's guide for the latest info (shouldn't change but who knows)

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q_how_to/a5/2010golfTDI_buyerschecklist.htm

 

[alhutch]

Well, what I find lacking is the same (or more) of what was lacking in both previous generations: the lack of lack of options. If that makes any sense. I have no problem with a $28k Golf TDI loaded with goodies. I DO have a problem with that essentially being the only way to get it. That is as much as my Passat was (which was 'loaded' too)!

Why can't we have a few more options to have less options? Where is our $18k Golf diesel? I think there are something like 6 gas engines and 4 diesel engines available in a Golf in Europe. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying everyone would want a lesser trimmed car, but it would seem some of us would be happy with that, and others would actually be able to AFFORD to buy a 'People's Car' once again.

Let's hope the bloated Golf 6 price tag gets offset some here by VOA getting a clue and offering the Polo here...so long as they don't tooef that up with some giant gas engine too.

I purchased my daily driver Jetta with the planned use of 500k miles or 20 years. I am at 440k miles and 18 years now, and I fear when it comes time for me to buy a new car Volkswagen simply won'y have anything on their lots in this country that will fit my budget.

I see what you mean OH, but I don't think VW can compete solely on price in this country with cars as nice and full of 'goodness' as the MKVI Golf (German labor is too expensive).

From the remarks coming out of VOA, you might just be getting your wish with the NCS and other future products. Good for some folks, makes me sad though. I want the fully loaded (sans Nav) Golf TDI (actually, I'd prefer a GTD, but that ain't happening)!

I've spent lots of $$$ over the years to make my Golf much like what is coming soon. This time, I'd rather just buy it from VW.