rotaecho
Well-known member
- Joined
- May 29, 2015
- Location
- Phoenix
- TDI
- mTDI AHU in an 82 Vanagon Diesel & 86' 1.6na Golf (destined TDI)
Sorry to be "that" guy, but I'm loosing my mind.
I have read the "no start" thread, I will give a little history then give what I've attempted.
I bought the Golf for my nephew's grad present. Going through it more so since 2d are rare in my parts so I just grabbed it. It did run though and I did drive it home. It had a busted hard heater line bent at a 90, EGR delete so no emissions, and A/C didn't work. I was told it had an air leak in the fuel system at the fuel filter; which looked stock/oe from car new.
The guy said he did the TB recently, I've done plenty of AHU/ALH TB's so wasn't unfamilar. The components were new, dated good, and only issue was VCDS had it way retarded which I corrected. So, fixed timing, and she started right up!
I then proceeded switching the engine mounts, replacing all the broken A/C components, replacing the broken hard heater line that wraps around the engine, new alt, and a bunch of other ****. I also had to reinstall the emissions that I got from another TDI (99 Beetle).
Finally got it all buttoned up, and she cranks, sounds like she wants to start; as I get more than a crank like a sputter. Won't actually start though.
The battery isn't the best, but it does hold a charge at 12.8v. I've also had it on the charger whlie I'm in VCDS or kill it cranking attempting.
What have I done to investigate.
** Verified Fuel Filter & IP are bled** I filled the new fuel filter with diesel. Pulled fuel from the filter housing and then again from the IP return with a mityvac. Cracked all four injectors and cranked till no bubbles.
** Intake & EGR/Emissions appear proper/functiong/clean.
** The Anti_Shudder Valve installed with the EGR appears to function properly.
**VCDS*** I first fired it up and cleared any DTCs from all the previous running and work now. I then attempted to start and go the following. All of which seem fine and nothing to prevent a no start; I know about the passenger seat. Nothing stood out with VCDS.
Thanks for any suggestions. Getting a testlight and checking the fuel solenoid; be odd it just went out though during this work.
*** VCDS LOG****
Log the abs sensor and passenger seat is all known stuff at moment (seat is out)
Monday,29,May,2023,14:49:40:16246
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 9BWBP61J734078521 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
VIN: 9BWBP61J734078521 Mileage: 634980km-394558miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.clb
Part No: 038 906 012 GN
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G000SG 4308
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 62C5B9ADEE70C79D35-4B18
9BWBP61J734078521 VWZ7Z0C7129691
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 L
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0004097
Shop #: WSC 00001 785 00200
VCID: 336B0CE9510A1E158E-515A
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
Component: 08 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003
Coding: 12344
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 2753E8B9C5D262B522-513C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 L
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07
Coding: 07232
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 316706E1FB162C05FC-513C
9BWBP61J734078521 VWZ7Z0C7129691
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 70E1C3E5309C650DB3-513C
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 8B Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 377338F91572F235B2-4B18
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 8B Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0009
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 8B Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0009
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:47)--------------------------
I have read the "no start" thread, I will give a little history then give what I've attempted.
I bought the Golf for my nephew's grad present. Going through it more so since 2d are rare in my parts so I just grabbed it. It did run though and I did drive it home. It had a busted hard heater line bent at a 90, EGR delete so no emissions, and A/C didn't work. I was told it had an air leak in the fuel system at the fuel filter; which looked stock/oe from car new.
The guy said he did the TB recently, I've done plenty of AHU/ALH TB's so wasn't unfamilar. The components were new, dated good, and only issue was VCDS had it way retarded which I corrected. So, fixed timing, and she started right up!
I then proceeded switching the engine mounts, replacing all the broken A/C components, replacing the broken hard heater line that wraps around the engine, new alt, and a bunch of other ****. I also had to reinstall the emissions that I got from another TDI (99 Beetle).
Finally got it all buttoned up, and she cranks, sounds like she wants to start; as I get more than a crank like a sputter. Won't actually start though.
The battery isn't the best, but it does hold a charge at 12.8v. I've also had it on the charger whlie I'm in VCDS or kill it cranking attempting.
What have I done to investigate.
** Verified Fuel Filter & IP are bled** I filled the new fuel filter with diesel. Pulled fuel from the filter housing and then again from the IP return with a mityvac. Cracked all four injectors and cranked till no bubbles.
** Intake & EGR/Emissions appear proper/functiong/clean.
** The Anti_Shudder Valve installed with the EGR appears to function properly.
**VCDS*** I first fired it up and cleared any DTCs from all the previous running and work now. I then attempted to start and go the following. All of which seem fine and nothing to prevent a no start; I know about the passenger seat. Nothing stood out with VCDS.
Thanks for any suggestions. Getting a testlight and checking the fuel solenoid; be odd it just went out though during this work.
*** VCDS LOG****
Log the abs sensor and passenger seat is all known stuff at moment (seat is out)
Monday,29,May,2023,14:49:40:16246
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 9BWBP61J734078521 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
VIN: 9BWBP61J734078521 Mileage: 634980km-394558miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.clb
Part No: 038 906 012 GN
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G000SG 4308
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 62C5B9ADEE70C79D35-4B18
9BWBP61J734078521 VWZ7Z0C7129691
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 L
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0101
Coding: 0004097
Shop #: WSC 00001 785 00200
VCID: 336B0CE9510A1E158E-515A
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
Component: 08 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0003
Coding: 12344
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 2753E8B9C5D262B522-513C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 L
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07
Coding: 07232
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 316706E1FB162C05FC-513C
9BWBP61J734078521 VWZ7Z0C7129691
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 70E1C3E5309C650DB3-513C
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 8B Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00064
Shop #: WSC 00001
VCID: 377338F91572F235B2-4B18
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 8B Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0009
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 8B Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0009
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:47)--------------------------