2002 VW Beetle TDI - Mustang Dyno Results

GaryTDI

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I got a Dyno on my 2002 Beetle TDI today and was super excited with the results. I'm told that the Mustang dyno is very conservative. My mods are in my signature. Hopefully the image is clear.

 

GaryTDI

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Thanks guys, I actually wasn't expecting numbers quite that good. I have to thank all the vendors I used to complete this project.
 

Bob_Fout

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A 3rd gear run? [based on the speed and RPM I see]
 

Bob_Fout

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Yes, that's what the shop owner ran it on. Is that not correct?
As long as the gear ratio was taken into account, it's OK. If not, you will get incorrectly high results. Usually runs are done in 4th, as it's very close to 1:1 [0.98:1... I think].
 

darkhorse

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Those are very nice numbers with a fine broad curve. I've run on a Mustang & they do tend to be conservative. All my runs were done in 4th.
 

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Nice numbers. And a Mustang is on the conservative side. I'm not sure about the 3rd gear run, however. 4th is the norm. And your torque peaks at higher revs than I would expect.

Here's a dyno of my car from several years ago, set up very similarly to yours. 4th gear pull. It's on a Dyno Dynamics dyno, which is, if anything, more conservative than the Mustang.


I thought my torque peak was late at 2700, but yours is later. Mine is later in part because this was a 6000 RPM tune.

You might want to talk to Malone and see if they can get the turbo to spool a bit faster.
 

GaryTDI

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Here is the video of that run just to show the level of smoke. From what I'm reading the Mustang type dynos result in very little difference in reporting from gear to gear based on the loading and how they collect the data during the run.
http://youtu.be/yzsteMe2eyE
 

GaryTDI

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I thought my torque peak was late at 2700, but yours is later. Mine is later in part because this was a 6000 RPM tune.

You might want to talk to Malone and see if they can get the turbo to spool a bit faster.
Thanks for feedback. I've been very happy with curve where it is. If I try to launch the car for a 0-60 I already have a very hard time with wheel spin. For highway driving though it is absolutely amazing how it pulls.
 

jptbay

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Love your car, and any souped up Beetle!

I'll post up my mustang dyno results for the Beetle in my signature below for comparison, when I get home tomorrow.

I didn't really know much about getting a good dyno run before I went, so I posted a thread in this forum for advice, and did a bunch of other reading.

Everyone locally told me to expect to be disappointed with my numbers at this particular dyno, but in the end I was pleased.

Did your dyno operator have an rpm pickup for diesels? Mine did not, so we had to take a few more steps in calibrating the rollers. We used actual speed, with cruise control set, and rpm and speed taken from VCDS scanner at two points in rpm scale.

I think I recall that the weight of the car was important for an accurate calibration. I see your weight is not realistic by 450-500 lbs. Not sure if that would have an effect.

I did all my runs in 4th gear.
 

GaryTDI

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Love your car, and any souped up Beetle!

I'll post up my mustang dyno results for the Beetle in my signature below for comparison, when I get home tomorrow.

I didn't really know much about getting a good dyno run before I went, so I posted a thread in this forum for advice, and did a bunch of other reading.

Everyone locally told me to expect to be disappointed with my numbers at this particular dyno, but in the end I was pleased.

Did your dyno operator have an rpm pickup for diesels? Mine did not, so we had to take a few more steps in calibrating the rollers. We used actual speed, with cruise control set, and rpm and speed taken from VCDS scanner at two points in rpm scale.

I think I recall that the weight of the car was important for an accurate calibration. I see your weight is not realistic by 450-500 lbs. Not sure if that would have an effect.

I did all my runs in 4th gear.
I didn't really participate much in the setup aside from providing the vehicle weight which was on my registration card and I confirmed with an online search.

In the fall I plan on doing it again when it is a lot cooler. The fan was also blowing on the Intercooler side of my car and in hind sight I was thinking it might be better blowing on the other side perhaps. I'll have to look into it before I dyno again.
 
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