This is my first TDI. I've been looking at them for a long time and finally this one popped up on the ole liste.
2000 Jetta GLS 5-speed manual, red
277,777m on the odometer when I first pulled her in the driveway, neat.
It took a few weeks to console myself on mileage. She could have driven to the moon.
I'm not looking to build a high performance car. I'm seeking reliability and efficiency, if I can get some style points I'll take em.
(long post) more of a journal. I'll update when I have something interesting to say.
So, first I had some things to take care of. I bought the car knowing it would need some post-purchase investment.
Known issues at time of purchase:
Valve cover leak, saggy headliner, original clutch, bad struts, cold start issue.
the good:
known history. the guy had a heavy folder of receipts and print-outs and stuff,
timing belts done on time,
new alternator,
new egr,
MAF
CTS
glowplug harness
tie-rods,
"new" injection pump (not sure of the source but he also gave me the old one),
New tires and brakes.
No rust underneath, only minor on hood and fender.
The seller mentioned it had some type of chip that was sent somewhere and had something done to it. not sure about any of this. How do I check?
First thing, Had to Rainex this poor windsheild, new wipers. I went and bought a bunch of tools. Metric sockets, allen socket and wrenches, torx bits, torque wrench, etc. I had to get it safe. He said it needed struts but it was really the control arm bushings. they'd clunk on every stop/go and some shifts.
I went ahead and replaced the struts, control arm, ball joints, tie-rod ends, sway-bar links, and steering bellows. All Moog stuff from Rock Auto. LCA came with bushings and greasable ball joints already installed. The struts already had new springs installed. Knowing what I know now I may have shopped for something more appropriate for the car, but they work well and make the car feel stable. Raised it about 2-3 inches, has settled a bit now.
I followed the tutorials on this and other forums and it wasn't that hard to figure out. I did run into a few snags. I didn't have the right tool to loosen the top strut nut, (even after I went tool shopping). I ended up using a deep socket (21mm?) held with visegrips and an allen key w/cheater bar stuck through the hole to hold the stud. The new moog strut mounting stud would be different.
The front bolt on the lower control arm was trouble too. It felt like it wouldn't thread into the nut "welded" inside the sub-frame. That's when i read that you should not tap the bolt in with a hammer to avoid the risk of losing that nut inside the sealed cavity. a nightmare scenario. turns out I had this bolt mixed up with the strut pinch bolt which is a bit shorter. No problem here. When i got to the driver side, I did, most definitely used a hammer to tap in the front bolt and most definitely lost the nut down inside the sealed mounting cavity. dang. and many other words. After a lot of fumbling and getting nowhere I decided to quit for the night. But I wanted to try something, i was able to suspend the nut in place with a pick long enough to get some superglue on the side in hopes it would hold enough to get the bolt started. I put the bolt in without the control arm just to hold the nut to let the glue set overnight. I felt this was in vain, it was very cold.
You know how it is you can't get your mind off of it, so I exploited the forums and youtube for ideas and brainstormed myself to sleep.
The next morning, I checked and the glue did not hold at all. (JB weld would have worked if I'd had any, so try that if you run into the same problem).
I ended up using a coat hanger fashioned precisely to cradle the nut as I carefully got everything together. Had to have the wife help, it was a delicate operation. success.
Got her lined up and no more clunk, tight turns, stable on the highway at 70+. Oh yea, After i was done I reviewed the tutorial and realized i was supposed to replace the control are and strut pinch bolt with new ones. They are one-time-use. So I ordered the new ones and did the whole thing over again. Very "educational".
Next would be to change the oil and transmission fluid. Straight-ahead, no issues. New magnetic drain plug and copper washer. No visible contaminates in the oil. It does burn some, and leak some. I torqued the valve cover and oil pan to spec. Both had some loose bolts. Seems to help her consumption. Cleaned the aluminum belly pan. I used rotella 5w-40 blue bottle. and for the trans it was in a gray bottle from oriellys. up to spec at least. Shifts a lot easier.
I discovered IDparts and Kerma and those places through these forums. I got all kinds of stuff. So many boxes. I'll try to remember everything.
I changed the fuel filter w/diesel purge and air filter (KnN out. mann in). cleaned oil from MAF. they first sent me Liquimoly Oil treatment, when i called about an exchange they just sent to Diesel Purge at no cost and let me keep the oil treatment. Haven't used it yet, anybody have experience?
Now I begin chasing this cold start issue.
The previous owner showed me how to unplug the coolant temp sensor and it'll start up no problem. If the engine is warm it starts fine with the sensor installed. if it sits for a few hours it'll turn over till the battery dies. If I jump start it, it fires right up. He put a new green CTS in, and new GP harness. I'll post my odb codes later. I don't have Vag-com.
It'll get a timing belt as soon as I have the money. There's a guy within a few hours who is on the trusted mechanics list and comes highly recommended. I'm sure he can help me. Maybe whoever replaced the IP didn't set the timing correctly.
New battery. old one was 8 years old. no change. i'm not convinced it's powerful enough, may upgrade. I'll add specs later.
New glow plugs. Bosch from kerma or id
replaced vacuum tube to turbo and that valve, seemed to help it's power a little. beginning to hear the whistle outside the car.
Had a cheap muffler put on, the previous owner removed the original, chasing low power I think. New one, i wish i could remember what it was. guy at the shop said it was low flow to help the turbo. helped its sound a little, gets throaty on the boost. still has cat. Wonder what it would do with no cat but keep the muffler.
Then I had it out of town for a month with a 40min twice-daily commute. It did good. I still had to do the trick to start it if it sat for more that a couple hours. I had several two hour, 55mph, no red light trips. It did great, for the most part. 46mpg was the best i got (w/PS 5th gear no breaks cruise control, some hills).
It did do a couple of weird things. Two cold mornings, 10f or so, with cts unplugged and even 5 full cycles of glow, still excessive cranking to start (like 10-15 min). First time I had under half tank no additive parked facing up hill so that day I got some power service and filled up and parked facing down hill. Same thing. Eventually started at ran like usual.
A few days later I got a flashing glow plug light, no other symptoms. Quantity adjuster upper limit code. This happened about 25f, 1/4 tank. So i freaked out searching for answers and pricing injector pumps and hondas that night. GP light still flashing in the morning, fill up with fuel. No more flashing GP light. don't scare me like that old girl.
I get back home no problem. Still chasing cold start issue (CSI)
Also, there's some hesitation (missing) above 70mph. or sustained med rpm (2800+) under load. Thinking fuel restriction. no lift pump on this one. Drill out check valve in the tank sender unit. no change in starting or high speed miss. Plan to inspect, pull and clean the intake manifold. I looked through the Anti-Shudder valve and it didn't look terrible. Might get a cheap usb boroscope and get a good look before tearing into it.
Thinking maybe the starter just isn't turning the engine fast enough. It fires good with a jump. Was going to rebuild the starter but it was not in bad shape so i just cleaned all the connections. may have helped a bit. Might try a higher CCA rated battery i think the new one i got from oriellys is rated at 770cca maybe 40ah. We'll see how the timing belt and professional consultation go.
Then there's the interior. First we gave it a good cleaning. Black leather is not bad, some scratches but no rips. Some of the interior plastic is scratched, i think it's called soft touch and i hear it can be cleaned up with alcohol. Kenwood stereo and infinity speakers sound good. CD, Radio, USB, Bluetooth, Aux. Still need some type of sub. Bought a kit to fix the glove box door, need to get one for the console armrest lid.
The headliner is sagging, can't wait to replace it with leather or something like that. cup holders are hanging on for dear life.
The shifter knob was peeling and just too temping on a long drive. Got a nice simulated wood grain on amazon for $15~. Really classed her up. once i clean that plastic and do the headliner she'll be sleek.
As for the future, again, I'm not looking to build a hotrod. Just a nice daily driver, not that I wouldn't mind some power. We'll figure it out as we go.
After the timing belt is probably a new clutch. I'll have to decide on what kind of power I'm going to end up with. I also don't want it too hard to drive because the wife needs to learn the manual sooner or later. right now it's so easy to engage, almost no accelerator is needed, just a bump. Might have to do with the dual mass flywheel, I'll have to decide on that too. May switch to a single mass. seems to be the consensus. I wonder if those clutch upgrades are rougher to engage (since they grip better, right?) especially switching from smooth friction plate and spring filled fly wheel to sticky plate and a single wheel. Needs some wheels and some paint too. both are close to last on the list.
Although the stereo is nice, I think I'd like a double-din. It would modernize it a bit. My buddy had a single din with no cd drive, so the face plate folded down for secret storage behind. It would be cool to find a double din like that.
Also all those surrounding pieces need something. There are kits for this.
New window tint, old is peeling in the back.
Other ideas. I may or may not give these a second though but figured I'd share.
- Somewhere I saw a write up about using a tablet (ipad or android) as a stereo/gps/etc. That could be cool and maybe easier than it seems. I could see someone creating a custom interface with widgets and apps. Maybe even work VCDS into it somehow.
-A pillar "gauges"
-Backup camera monitor/gps. Maybe put this in the lowest position and use a bigger housing than a normal round gauge. Having it right next to the driver door mirror would be nice along with some good backup lights.
-Compass/temp: Maybe a custom digital display three digit coolant temp or outside temp, compass letters. A ring of leds that act like a needle gauge (ya know, sweep-like)could work as the compass too. Maybe asking too much but there might be something already available.
-third slot could be boost/egt, fuel economy,
Another idea, hook up some lights to whatever controls the boost and/or tach so they brighten as rpm/boost climbs. Maybe even have rpm control blue lights in the foot wells and maybe white fades in as you build boost. could put these lights anywhere, thinking led strip lights. Thought about putting a ring around the cluster, some up under the dash.
And I definitely need better light in the trunk.
Maybe a roof rack for our kayaks.
I do really like the car, and my wife loves how comfortable the seats are. It's an awesome road trip vehicle. I'm a drummer and I can fit all my stuff in the trunk with the back seat laid down. The fuel mileage makes it worth it to play some of these out-of-town gigs. It's just fun to drive, and once I get the timing belt taken care of we'll put some serious miles on her.
A few things to add. 4/2017
I replaced all the vacuum hoses with generic from rock auto, also a vacuum check valve from id. The old stuff was frayed pretty bad. The car ran a lot better. Smooth idle, solved the "missing" at highway speeds. Fairly easy to do. Replace one at a time and confirm the routing with the diagram. This gave me the biggest improvement in how it ran since I got the car. It cost about $20.
Took it through the car wash and lost a turn signal cover. Ordered replacement and upgraded cup holders.
I installed a switch to disconnect the CTS. I had the wire and switch laying around.
I've removed the check valve in the fuel sender. no change but this could have caused my starting issue when it was cold out, 10f.
Replaced Brake booster vacuum hose and check valve. old one was split (no change)
Thanks for sitting through the epic. Any thoughts or advise is welcome, as long as you're courteous.
2000 Jetta GLS 5-speed manual, red
277,777m on the odometer when I first pulled her in the driveway, neat.
It took a few weeks to console myself on mileage. She could have driven to the moon.
I'm not looking to build a high performance car. I'm seeking reliability and efficiency, if I can get some style points I'll take em.
(long post) more of a journal. I'll update when I have something interesting to say.
So, first I had some things to take care of. I bought the car knowing it would need some post-purchase investment.
Known issues at time of purchase:
Valve cover leak, saggy headliner, original clutch, bad struts, cold start issue.
the good:
known history. the guy had a heavy folder of receipts and print-outs and stuff,
timing belts done on time,
new alternator,
new egr,
MAF
CTS
glowplug harness
tie-rods,
"new" injection pump (not sure of the source but he also gave me the old one),
New tires and brakes.
No rust underneath, only minor on hood and fender.
The seller mentioned it had some type of chip that was sent somewhere and had something done to it. not sure about any of this. How do I check?
First thing, Had to Rainex this poor windsheild, new wipers. I went and bought a bunch of tools. Metric sockets, allen socket and wrenches, torx bits, torque wrench, etc. I had to get it safe. He said it needed struts but it was really the control arm bushings. they'd clunk on every stop/go and some shifts.
I went ahead and replaced the struts, control arm, ball joints, tie-rod ends, sway-bar links, and steering bellows. All Moog stuff from Rock Auto. LCA came with bushings and greasable ball joints already installed. The struts already had new springs installed. Knowing what I know now I may have shopped for something more appropriate for the car, but they work well and make the car feel stable. Raised it about 2-3 inches, has settled a bit now.
I followed the tutorials on this and other forums and it wasn't that hard to figure out. I did run into a few snags. I didn't have the right tool to loosen the top strut nut, (even after I went tool shopping). I ended up using a deep socket (21mm?) held with visegrips and an allen key w/cheater bar stuck through the hole to hold the stud. The new moog strut mounting stud would be different.
The front bolt on the lower control arm was trouble too. It felt like it wouldn't thread into the nut "welded" inside the sub-frame. That's when i read that you should not tap the bolt in with a hammer to avoid the risk of losing that nut inside the sealed cavity. a nightmare scenario. turns out I had this bolt mixed up with the strut pinch bolt which is a bit shorter. No problem here. When i got to the driver side, I did, most definitely used a hammer to tap in the front bolt and most definitely lost the nut down inside the sealed mounting cavity. dang. and many other words. After a lot of fumbling and getting nowhere I decided to quit for the night. But I wanted to try something, i was able to suspend the nut in place with a pick long enough to get some superglue on the side in hopes it would hold enough to get the bolt started. I put the bolt in without the control arm just to hold the nut to let the glue set overnight. I felt this was in vain, it was very cold.
You know how it is you can't get your mind off of it, so I exploited the forums and youtube for ideas and brainstormed myself to sleep.
The next morning, I checked and the glue did not hold at all. (JB weld would have worked if I'd had any, so try that if you run into the same problem).
I ended up using a coat hanger fashioned precisely to cradle the nut as I carefully got everything together. Had to have the wife help, it was a delicate operation. success.
Got her lined up and no more clunk, tight turns, stable on the highway at 70+. Oh yea, After i was done I reviewed the tutorial and realized i was supposed to replace the control are and strut pinch bolt with new ones. They are one-time-use. So I ordered the new ones and did the whole thing over again. Very "educational".
Next would be to change the oil and transmission fluid. Straight-ahead, no issues. New magnetic drain plug and copper washer. No visible contaminates in the oil. It does burn some, and leak some. I torqued the valve cover and oil pan to spec. Both had some loose bolts. Seems to help her consumption. Cleaned the aluminum belly pan. I used rotella 5w-40 blue bottle. and for the trans it was in a gray bottle from oriellys. up to spec at least. Shifts a lot easier.
I discovered IDparts and Kerma and those places through these forums. I got all kinds of stuff. So many boxes. I'll try to remember everything.
I changed the fuel filter w/diesel purge and air filter (KnN out. mann in). cleaned oil from MAF. they first sent me Liquimoly Oil treatment, when i called about an exchange they just sent to Diesel Purge at no cost and let me keep the oil treatment. Haven't used it yet, anybody have experience?
Now I begin chasing this cold start issue.
The previous owner showed me how to unplug the coolant temp sensor and it'll start up no problem. If the engine is warm it starts fine with the sensor installed. if it sits for a few hours it'll turn over till the battery dies. If I jump start it, it fires right up. He put a new green CTS in, and new GP harness. I'll post my odb codes later. I don't have Vag-com.
It'll get a timing belt as soon as I have the money. There's a guy within a few hours who is on the trusted mechanics list and comes highly recommended. I'm sure he can help me. Maybe whoever replaced the IP didn't set the timing correctly.
New battery. old one was 8 years old. no change. i'm not convinced it's powerful enough, may upgrade. I'll add specs later.
New glow plugs. Bosch from kerma or id
replaced vacuum tube to turbo and that valve, seemed to help it's power a little. beginning to hear the whistle outside the car.
Had a cheap muffler put on, the previous owner removed the original, chasing low power I think. New one, i wish i could remember what it was. guy at the shop said it was low flow to help the turbo. helped its sound a little, gets throaty on the boost. still has cat. Wonder what it would do with no cat but keep the muffler.
Then I had it out of town for a month with a 40min twice-daily commute. It did good. I still had to do the trick to start it if it sat for more that a couple hours. I had several two hour, 55mph, no red light trips. It did great, for the most part. 46mpg was the best i got (w/PS 5th gear no breaks cruise control, some hills).
It did do a couple of weird things. Two cold mornings, 10f or so, with cts unplugged and even 5 full cycles of glow, still excessive cranking to start (like 10-15 min). First time I had under half tank no additive parked facing up hill so that day I got some power service and filled up and parked facing down hill. Same thing. Eventually started at ran like usual.
A few days later I got a flashing glow plug light, no other symptoms. Quantity adjuster upper limit code. This happened about 25f, 1/4 tank. So i freaked out searching for answers and pricing injector pumps and hondas that night. GP light still flashing in the morning, fill up with fuel. No more flashing GP light. don't scare me like that old girl.
I get back home no problem. Still chasing cold start issue (CSI)
Also, there's some hesitation (missing) above 70mph. or sustained med rpm (2800+) under load. Thinking fuel restriction. no lift pump on this one. Drill out check valve in the tank sender unit. no change in starting or high speed miss. Plan to inspect, pull and clean the intake manifold. I looked through the Anti-Shudder valve and it didn't look terrible. Might get a cheap usb boroscope and get a good look before tearing into it.
Thinking maybe the starter just isn't turning the engine fast enough. It fires good with a jump. Was going to rebuild the starter but it was not in bad shape so i just cleaned all the connections. may have helped a bit. Might try a higher CCA rated battery i think the new one i got from oriellys is rated at 770cca maybe 40ah. We'll see how the timing belt and professional consultation go.
Then there's the interior. First we gave it a good cleaning. Black leather is not bad, some scratches but no rips. Some of the interior plastic is scratched, i think it's called soft touch and i hear it can be cleaned up with alcohol. Kenwood stereo and infinity speakers sound good. CD, Radio, USB, Bluetooth, Aux. Still need some type of sub. Bought a kit to fix the glove box door, need to get one for the console armrest lid.
The headliner is sagging, can't wait to replace it with leather or something like that. cup holders are hanging on for dear life.
The shifter knob was peeling and just too temping on a long drive. Got a nice simulated wood grain on amazon for $15~. Really classed her up. once i clean that plastic and do the headliner she'll be sleek.
As for the future, again, I'm not looking to build a hotrod. Just a nice daily driver, not that I wouldn't mind some power. We'll figure it out as we go.
After the timing belt is probably a new clutch. I'll have to decide on what kind of power I'm going to end up with. I also don't want it too hard to drive because the wife needs to learn the manual sooner or later. right now it's so easy to engage, almost no accelerator is needed, just a bump. Might have to do with the dual mass flywheel, I'll have to decide on that too. May switch to a single mass. seems to be the consensus. I wonder if those clutch upgrades are rougher to engage (since they grip better, right?) especially switching from smooth friction plate and spring filled fly wheel to sticky plate and a single wheel. Needs some wheels and some paint too. both are close to last on the list.
Although the stereo is nice, I think I'd like a double-din. It would modernize it a bit. My buddy had a single din with no cd drive, so the face plate folded down for secret storage behind. It would be cool to find a double din like that.
Also all those surrounding pieces need something. There are kits for this.
New window tint, old is peeling in the back.
Other ideas. I may or may not give these a second though but figured I'd share.
- Somewhere I saw a write up about using a tablet (ipad or android) as a stereo/gps/etc. That could be cool and maybe easier than it seems. I could see someone creating a custom interface with widgets and apps. Maybe even work VCDS into it somehow.
-A pillar "gauges"
-Backup camera monitor/gps. Maybe put this in the lowest position and use a bigger housing than a normal round gauge. Having it right next to the driver door mirror would be nice along with some good backup lights.
-Compass/temp: Maybe a custom digital display three digit coolant temp or outside temp, compass letters. A ring of leds that act like a needle gauge (ya know, sweep-like)could work as the compass too. Maybe asking too much but there might be something already available.
-third slot could be boost/egt, fuel economy,
Another idea, hook up some lights to whatever controls the boost and/or tach so they brighten as rpm/boost climbs. Maybe even have rpm control blue lights in the foot wells and maybe white fades in as you build boost. could put these lights anywhere, thinking led strip lights. Thought about putting a ring around the cluster, some up under the dash.
And I definitely need better light in the trunk.
Maybe a roof rack for our kayaks.
I do really like the car, and my wife loves how comfortable the seats are. It's an awesome road trip vehicle. I'm a drummer and I can fit all my stuff in the trunk with the back seat laid down. The fuel mileage makes it worth it to play some of these out-of-town gigs. It's just fun to drive, and once I get the timing belt taken care of we'll put some serious miles on her.
A few things to add. 4/2017
I replaced all the vacuum hoses with generic from rock auto, also a vacuum check valve from id. The old stuff was frayed pretty bad. The car ran a lot better. Smooth idle, solved the "missing" at highway speeds. Fairly easy to do. Replace one at a time and confirm the routing with the diagram. This gave me the biggest improvement in how it ran since I got the car. It cost about $20.
Took it through the car wash and lost a turn signal cover. Ordered replacement and upgraded cup holders.
I installed a switch to disconnect the CTS. I had the wire and switch laying around.
I've removed the check valve in the fuel sender. no change but this could have caused my starting issue when it was cold out, 10f.
Replaced Brake booster vacuum hose and check valve. old one was split (no change)
Thanks for sitting through the epic. Any thoughts or advise is welcome, as long as you're courteous.
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