2 stroke oil in your diesel = smiles?
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Seatman
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Do tell me more
Bob_Fout
Oil Wanker
If deposits formed with 2-cycle, Power Service might clean it.
Abacus
That helpful B4 guy
That would explain why my pistons and head were so clean. I expected some significant buildup from long term use of the 2 cycle oil and was amazed to see it so clean.
Marc_TDI
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Scratcher
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You can go up to 5% Bio and still be in warranty so yes your figure would put you in that range. I run between 4 & 10% Premium bio diesel constantly for lubricity.
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yes 26 gallong tank per Spicer report.
If you look closely at Herm's post there is a link to the Spicer report. He is just quoting what the Spicer report said.
Also, if you look Spicer also used the winter ratio for Optilube XPD which is double the suggested summer ratio.
Herm TDI
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Scratcher
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5% bio is allowable under warranty
sc00byd00311
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Wow, i just keep getting my eyes ripped open wider the longer I read on here. Thanks to Seatman for the OP, HermTDI for his awesome info, Abacus for his detailed history of use and everyone else who has verified that this may result in positive use.
Herm TDI
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You are your own warranty...I'm not.
I do not want anyone to read or mis-read something that was "posted on the internet" and then come back here moaning & groaning when something goes wrong with their engine.
The only thing that I'm saying is: ashless 2-cycle oil used at a 50:1 ratio is a very effective diesel fuel additive that improves both lubrisity and increases the level of aromatics. Aromatics were lowered with the advent of ULSD.
Other additives are proven to improve lubrisity but have little effect on increasing the level of aromatics of #2 fuel.
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Marc_TDI
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Thanks to all for the great info!
I found a biodiesel seller close by in Arlington, TX
current rate is $3.15/gal for B99 so I'll be going with that as an alternative to Opt-lube.
Opt-lube I have no doubt is a good product but I want to cut some costs.
I called the seller and had a nice chat with him, he told me he has a number of Jetta TDI customers, some are running higher that B5, which is fine for older models, but not mine.
He also said there were some folks running B20 and higher on 2009-2012's...yes you can...but...it runs the risk of diluting the engine oil and clogging the DPF.
Also....I'll have to look over the guides here on the Forum...didn't know I could do a ventectomy on a 2010 Jetta.
I found a biodiesel seller close by in Arlington, TX
current rate is $3.15/gal for B99 so I'll be going with that as an alternative to Opt-lube.
Opt-lube I have no doubt is a good product but I want to cut some costs.
I called the seller and had a nice chat with him, he told me he has a number of Jetta TDI customers, some are running higher that B5, which is fine for older models, but not mine.
He also said there were some folks running B20 and higher on 2009-2012's...yes you can...but...it runs the risk of diluting the engine oil and clogging the DPF.
Also....I'll have to look over the guides here on the Forum...didn't know I could do a ventectomy on a 2010 Jetta.
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Herm TDI
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On the CR TDI's (to my knowledge) I don't think you have that vent option.
Scratcher
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The owners handbook actually states that 5% bio is allowable
WutGas?
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He knows that. He is just stating that whatever he says is what he says. He isn't recommending anything (the use of bio or not), he is just giving information. It is up to the owner of their car to decide what they put in their fuel tanks.
wincharger
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Used motor oil will have metals, acids, and other bad things that will shorten the life of your expensive components, don't use used anything.
dieselfuel
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Is that correct? Or should it read "bio-diesel" instead of 2-cycle ashless oil? Or should it read 300:1 instead of 50:1?
Seems like ashless 2 cycle oil at a 50:1 ratio is way too high.
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powerfool
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Heh.... you could always try one of the rigged up "black diesel" filtering systems.
Abacus
That helpful B4 guy
I would think 50:1 is too high as well. The Spicer report lists 2 cycle oil at 200:1 and I'm sure Herm just had a Monday moment, easy to do with all the ratios floating around.
I run about 140:1 on mine and it seems to work just fine, but I did just increase it to 190:1 so the 2 cycle oil and PS fit in the same bottle for easier delivery. Doesn't seem to make a difference right now, but we'll see in another 200,000 miles.
I run about 140:1 on mine and it seems to work just fine, but I did just increase it to 190:1 so the 2 cycle oil and PS fit in the same bottle for easier delivery. Doesn't seem to make a difference right now, but we'll see in another 200,000 miles.
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No I dont
Seatman
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Right the last couple of times I've put fuel in I haven't put any 2 stroke in. So far I've noticed the engine is that little bit noisier again but I can't decide if the car has a little bit more of an edge to the power or not. Need to keep testing.
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newbie question...
just got my 2003 JSW TDI. This is my first diesel, and I've been reading a lot and trying to learn as much as I can.
I've seen a lot about additives, and crazy variations on ratios. One guy putting 14 oz. of 2 cycle and another guy using 1 oz.
I'm putting 5 oz PS (white) in with mine (14.7 gal), but after reading this and looking at the Spicer report, I'm thinking I want to put a quart of B100 in to each tank as well.
Question for the veterans... should I add 2 cycle as well? If I'm adding 5 oz PS white and 1 qt of B100, is it necessary or helpful to add 2 cycle as well? Or would I just be wasting money? I'd really like to see my JSW go for at least 500K miles...
just got my 2003 JSW TDI. This is my first diesel, and I've been reading a lot and trying to learn as much as I can.
I've seen a lot about additives, and crazy variations on ratios. One guy putting 14 oz. of 2 cycle and another guy using 1 oz.
I'm putting 5 oz PS (white) in with mine (14.7 gal), but after reading this and looking at the Spicer report, I'm thinking I want to put a quart of B100 in to each tank as well.
Question for the veterans... should I add 2 cycle as well? If I'm adding 5 oz PS white and 1 qt of B100, is it necessary or helpful to add 2 cycle as well? Or would I just be wasting money? I'd really like to see my JSW go for at least 500K miles...
Scratcher
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5% to 20% Bio diesel will be enough. 2% Bio came out on top in the Spicer report.
When I had my last filter change at the dealership I asked to come into the shop to look at my fuel filter. The tech who was working on my vehicle told me I had the best quality diesel he had seen in any TDI he had worked on.
I add PS (white bottle) in Winter. Probably not required but it gives me peace of mind
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Scratcher
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I notice quite a reduction in combustion noise in my truck when I use 2 Stroke. I add about 16ozs per fill up
ok, so i want to try this. i went and bought a 16oz bottle of the super tech TCW-3, what ratio are yall using it in? the bottle only does 50:1 for 6 gallons of fuel.
what would the ratio be if i add all 16oz to a full tank?
what would the ratio be if i add all 16oz to a full tank?
worldwide73
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1oz per gallon
ok good, so this little bottle is the perfect size!
Bob_Fout
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Oh. 14.5 to 16 or 17, all depends.