119000 mile 2011 Jetta TDI

evalen14

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The catalytic indicator on the dash came on today., manual says indicates failure.. Anyone have any experience like this? Anything I can do aside from taking it to dealer?
Thanks in advance
 

oilhammer

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It could need to be driven to initiate a regen, as it has attempted, and failed, enough times to trigger that lamp.

A scan tool will tell you for sure. It may just need a thermostat. Just depends on why the lamp came on. The DPF or the deNOx catalyst (two completely separate parts) can both cause that to happen.
 

evalen14

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Thanks for info! There are no cheap trips to the dealer and I have not been able to find anyone that will work on TDI around me. UGH!
 

oilhammer

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I just noticed, given your location, and the relatively low mileage of your car, that it may be subjected to a lot of short trips, and not many good long highway miles. If that is the case, it may just be it needs just that. But that's just a guess, because until someone asks the car, that's all we can do.
 

evalen14

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I just noticed, given your location, and the relatively low mileage of your car, that it may be subjected to a lot of short trips, and not many good long highway miles. If that is the case, it may just be it needs just that. But that's just a guess, because until someone asks the car, that's all we can do.
Would you happen to know how long generally the Cat Convertor lasts? I have the timing belt/water pump coming up....expensive repairs
 

oilhammer

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Heh, that's a loaded question, and probably necessitates context.

Your car has THREE catalytic converters, plus the Diesel Particle Filter.



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The first one, the DOC, is integral with the DPF, in one housing, all welded together. That catalyst probably would/could last indefinitely, nobody knows, because the DPF it is paired with certainly can't. DPFs fail. A lot. They crack internally, they don't "clog" up.

The second catalyst, the deNOx unit (the big can in the middle), sometimes called a NOx adsorber, or a lean-NOx trap, can last a pretty long time... but when the DPF fails, it is subjected to a bunch of soot getting in its substrate, which can shorten (and often end) its useable life.

The third catalyst, at the end, is the Hydrogen-Sulfide catalyst, that is a "clean up" component that is not at all monitored for function... so there is no way to know how long it lasts without some lab testing. They could have all given up their functionality after 100k miles for all we know.
 
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TurboABA

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You're playing with fire... 10 years was a while ago and you're still rocking that original timing belt...
 

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Going by what the dealer suggests replacing it. Debating whether to keep it or get a newer vehicle.
 

evalen14

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I live in Summit, just on the border of North Jersey in upper Union county. So upper part of central NJ
 

Rob Mayercik

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Ah, ok, so you're up near I-78 then. I pass through there on 78 daily, I'm out west in Hunterdon County. Have a guy near me that I'd trust, but that'd be 30-45 minutes from you. If you're interested, though, I can PM you the details.

I bought my Jetta at the dealer in Lyndhurst, but I've not had the car there for anything in years and don't know how their service department is these days (my last "data" is from around 2008 or slightly before).
 
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