06 TDI Vs. 06 2.5 I win

AudiMatt

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Just had an impromptu drag race with an 06 2.5 Jetta owner on a freeway on ramp. I got him off the line and pulled at least 1 car length ahead to 100mph. At 100 he started pulling even until we both let off dead even. I realize it was unsafe and that it interfered with getting the utmost in fuel economy but I'm still trying to break this thing in - Gotta keep that turbo spooled :rolleyes:

I guess the extra torque from the diesel really makes a difference. He would never have caught me if my Jetta was chipped.
 

AudiMatt

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It was from an on ramp onto a virtually empty freeway. Generally speaking I don't street race. But anyone who ever decides to get on the throttle at all in their car is pretty much guilty of the same thing. If you decide to pass a car on a two lane road and you have to gun the throttle to do it, it's not much different. Any kind of a hard pull even to just jump in front of someone to merge, it's the same thing....

We weren't on surface streets or in traffic....
 

spice*red*jetta

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ha ha they do around here sometimes, if they are road ragey and can't stand to be passed. Blah. My new teen son was driving the other day and someone passed someone else coming TOWARDS us from the other direction and cut it so close we all had to take the shoulder to save him. That pissed me off.

Congrats on your win. My hubby is a race car driver so I know how its in your blood no matter where our brain is sometimes. There are of course safer environments and more dangerous ones. We have a very busy street VERY in a nearby town and tons of stop and go traffic and for some odd reason that is the street they all drive up and down and race on cutting in and outta traffic ever since the Fast and The Furious came out? Scary street. We stay far away from there on certain nites for sure.
 

no-blue-screen

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AudiMatt said:
It was from an on ramp onto a virtually empty freeway. Generally speaking I don't street race. But anyone who ever decides to get on the throttle at all in their car is pretty much guilty of the same thing. If you decide to pass a car on a two lane road and you have to gun the throttle to do it, it's not much different. Any kind of a hard pull even to just jump in front of someone to merge, it's the same thing....

We weren't on surface streets or in traffic....
I applaud you on the win, but this IS street racing. You admittedly were going over 100mph and so was the person you were "trying to pass". When neither person backs down during a passing situation and both jump on the throttle....THE RACE IS ON!:D
 

AudiMatt

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Actually I was "trying to seat the rings using high boost as per the 1,000 to 5,000 mile instructions." ;) The other guy just wanted to show me that his 2.5 was better than my TDi. Unfortunately for him it wasn't..

We did let off as soon as there was any traffic but that doesn't make it right or much safer. I would never go weaving in and out of traffic unless some dire emergency forced me to...
 

HFSH

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AudiMatt said:
Actually I was "trying to seat the rings using high boost as per the 1,000 to 5,000 mile instructions." ;)
That really doesn't need to be done at 100mph. :eek:

I would never go weaving in and out of traffic unless some dire emergency forced me to...
:eek: really not a good idea.
 

no-blue-screen

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AudiMatt said:
Actually I was "trying to seat the rings using high boost as per the 1,000 to 5,000 mile instructions." ;)
Uh huh...sure.....you were just trying to seat you rings....I bet the cops would have bought that one...LOL :D
 

Audi5000TDI

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Yup... another one that deserves to be cited with a code IDTenT.
Congrats for endangering all of society on public streets with your thoughtfulness.

FWIW, your turbo is spooled and making boost in 1st at 1200 to 1300 rpms with mild acceleration off of a stop light, and I do mean mild. So your rings are seating at that level, nothing more is needed. The rest is just BS and a lame excuse. Standing on the accelerator (diesels don't have a throttle or a throttle plate) for 30 or more seconds to do 100 mph is street racing.
 
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bondkx01

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Sweet!!

Unlike the rest of these conservatives I would likely have done the same in that situation. I would have thought for sure a 2.5 would take a stock tdi. good to know. race on.
 

cujet

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Hogwash on the street racing. 100HP, 3500 pound sedans cannot street race. Minivans are faster, and generally out accelerate the diesels on an everyday basis.

There is no police officer in the world that would view my diesel at full power as racing.

Chris
 

shaolin

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I kind of wonder why there is no specific road kill forum.;)

With all the mod peoples did to their TDI, it can caught a lot of cars off guard.
 

01tj

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Uh, no. When passing, the car on the inside doesn't speed up...

MAn I wish that were true. It's rare to pass a car on our back roads with out having the victum think you are trying to race. I think there are to many NASCAR fans in WV but I always win because I can turn right:D
 

Bob_Fout

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cujet said:
Hogwash on the street racing. 100HP, 3500 pound sedans cannot street race. Minivans are faster, and generally out accelerate the diesels on an everyday basis.

There is no police officer in the world that would view my diesel at full power as racing.

Chris
You can street race with any car, truck, SUV or minivan. Street racing has more to do with intent and behavior, and less with what car you have.

If I pull up next to a guy at a light, rev my motor and we both take off with engines roaring, no matter who gets ahead or wins, that is street racing. The instant you both take off from that light, you are street racing.
 

40X40

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Was I racin' Officer? or just Haulin' Asphalt

When gas (yes gas) was under a dollar per gallon I drove and owned
a dump truck (534ci ford tri-axle w5speed and 4speed auxilary trans).
14 wheels and 11 tons empty, 27 ton payload, governed to 75 mph.

I had my foot buried in the firewall ALL the time just to get over the next
hill. I never knew I was street racing, but my intent was to pass anyone
in my way so I keep my momentum up for the next hill....

This momentum is VERY important esp w/gas engine. If I started up a
hill 5 mph slower than usual I might top the hill 20 mph slower than normal.
That will really piss off the drivers in the little cars. So entry speed at
the bottom of a hill was something to try to maintain. When I moved up
to a diesel in another truck it was like having an extra engine, I had
reserve torque and could HOLD my speed (better) farther up the hill and
have a much steadier speed on average.
When driving these trucks while loaded, it is very much like a drag race
(leisurely) all the way up to cruise speed. You must keep an eye on
traffic and terrain so as not to burn up your brakes and to not obstruct
traffic any more than you have too.....
And Yes I was hauling asphalt! (and sand and gravel too)
I wonder what it costs to have a brake job done on a big rig now??
10,000 dollars maybe parts and labor for all axles??
Anybody know??

Bill
 

cobrawilly

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Looking at the body lines and it don't look nothing like a jetta? I had to look twice and no way is that a VW Jetta.
 

badgolfer

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cobrawilly said:
Looking at the body lines and it don't look nothing like a jetta? I had to look twice and no way is that a VW Jetta.
What's left of the Jetta is in the background. Here's the article:



Two drivers killed in Sugar Grove accident
PublicationNorthwest Herald DateJuly 14, 2006Section(s)Local NewsPage


By KELLEY CASINO

SUGAR GROVE - A Volkswagen Jetta went airborne on Route 56 Thursday night and crashed into a sport utility vehicle carrying a man and two children, killing both drivers, witnesses told police.
The crash happened at 7:20 p.m. between Galena Boulevard and Route 47.
Sugar Grove Police Chief Brad Sauer said it appeared that the Jetta was traveling at "a very high rate of speed" and attempting to pass several vehicles when the driver lost control on a gravel shoulder and entered a grass median.
The Jetta then went airborne, completely jumping over one vehicle before hitting the Cadillac Escalade head-on, witnesses told police.
"It looks like the Jetta came from the air and hit it from above, above the bumper," Sauer said. "Both drivers were dead upon our arrival at the scene."
The identities of the two drivers, both men, and the children were not released pending family notification. Neither of the men was from Sugar Grove, Sauer said.
Sauer said he did not know the condition of the children, whom he said could be in their early teens. He also could not give any specifics on the injuries the children suffered.
"They were severe enough that the fire department thought they should be transported by helicopter," he said.
Only one helicopter was close enough to the scene and took one child to an unknown hospital, he said. The second child was taken to Provena Mercy Center in Aurora by ambulance.
"I have to say that in my 18 years at the Sugar Grove Police Department, I have never seen a crash scene like that," Sauer said. "It really did look like something exploded out there; there were pieces of cars everywhere.
"The Volkswagen was cut in half. One half was in the median, the other half was on the other side of Route 56."
The driver of the Volkswagen was ejected from the vehicle. It is unknown whether he or the occupants of the Escalade were wearing seat belts. A fire department ladder truck held spotlights above the scene to allow the Kane County coroner's office and the Kane County Accident Reconstruction Team to process the scene late into the night. Route 56 remained closed from Galena Boulevard to Route 47. Police and fire departments from Aurora, North Aurora and Elburn assisted Sugar Grove, along with the Kane County sheriff's office and the Office of Emergency Management.
 

scknight

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Things to remember:
1. Your not anonomous in your car, if I see road shenanigans, I get your license plate number, and phone it in to the authorities, and you pay the price. I know I am not the only one who does this and from experience I know the police LOVE these reports.
2. Dont use this website to promote who has the bigger banana by telling racing stories. Most car related websites will ban you once you mention breaking a law.
3. If you have something to contribute add the words 'at the track' to your story, so we know your legally doing 100 mph 'at the track' and not doing double the speed limit on the street and attempting to lose your license by admitting to it.

:)
 

JGordon

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I usually don’t get to drive the Jetta very much, but I did get a chance to seat my rings a little better when a Maxima decided to try and leave the TDI in the dust. :D :D
 

robrichtx

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look out...

the fun police are out in force apparently.

There is no reason to jeopardize other's lives, but reasonable people will agree that there are some times when putting the hammer down won't hurt anyone.

Not every friendly acceleration match ends in tragedy. Likewise and conversely, not every normally responsible person can foresee unsual circumstances that will lead to a horrible wreck. Let's just agree that most of us who are posting here have stomped on the pedal a few times and lived to tell about it.

I would avoid extreme viewpoints on either side of this issue, and leave the soapboxes for more important issues.

R
 

copperz

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oh my god who cares???? I always do 20mph above the speed limit. never got a tic. and never in accident.

good kill man. good to know that that thing got some pick me up to it.
 

cujet

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Yes the Jetta can exceed the speed limit. What I meant was on accel. Maybe I should have clarified by saying "classic drag race from a dead stop".

My Jetta is so slow at full power that I get passed on the on ramps by minivans with moms driving. That is not street racing, it is prudent accel to highway speeds. That is all the jetta is capable of. Sorry I was not clear.

Chris
 

Bob_Fout

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copperz said:
oh my god who cares???? I always do 20mph above the speed limit. never got a tic. and never in accident.

good kill man. good to know that that thing got some pick me up to it.
If you are doing this NOT in a group of cars, just wait. The statistics will catch up.

55 MPH in a 35 MPH can land you in jail if they write it up that way.
 

copperz

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Bob_Fout said:
If you are doing this NOT in a group of cars, just wait. The statistics will catch up.

55 MPH in a 35 MPH can land you in jail if they write it up that way.
Thanks for the heads up. :) I believe there are 2 types of drives:
1) who drive slow or fast and frequently get into car accidents.
2) people who drive slow and fast and never get into car accidents because they are aware of their surroundings and know what their car is capable of.

Sorry when you are behind a wheel of a $35K sports car you are not going to drive the speed limit. I guess its different in a jetta.
 

Bob_Fout

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copperz said:
Thanks for the heads up. :) I believe there are 2 types of drives:
1) who drive slow or fast and frequently get into car accidents.
2) people who drive slow and fast and never get into car accidents because they are aware of their surroundings and know what their car is capable of.

Sorry when you are behind a wheel of a $35K sports car you are not going to drive the speed limit. I guess its different in a jetta.
I'd hate to see how fast someone in an expensive car drives.
 

Matt65

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copperz said:
Sorry when you are behind a wheel of a $35K sports car you are not going to drive the speed limit.
I have to disagree. Price is really irrelevant here, but I know many owners that drive their $35, 45K+ sports cars within the limits of the law on public streets. They also use them for sanctioned racing events on road courses, dragstrips, and auto-cross tracks.

There is a time and place for everything.

Also, copperz Welcome to the forum!
 
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