06 Jetta BRM stalls and smokes/no power unless turbo disabled **UPDATE**

TysonK

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Location
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TDI
1992 Jetta D (ran aground 450k km)2000 Jetta TDI (ran aground 350k km) 2001 Jetta TDI (ran aground 375k km) 2006 Jetta TDI (Work in Progress)
Hello,
I recently purchased a used 06 jetta TDI BRM. It had known issues but the price was right. The previous owner had done some shotgun troubleshooting using a parts car but could not figure it out.
When starting the engine idles very rough, barely responds to throttle changes and smokes white, and eventually stalls.
If I disable the turbo by disconnecting the MAP sensor it runs fine, albeit with reduced power you would expect with no turbo.
Plug MAP back in and restart and back to smoke/stalling.
I purchased a Ross Tech Hex2 and ran a scan. It had multiple codes but I suspect most were triggered due to previous owners tinkering. He stated he had no code reader. I cleared the codes (after saving them) and ran it for a while with turbo enabled and disabled hoping it would throw a helpful code. It did not, the only one that came up was the MAP sensor and Intake air temp which I believe is integrated into the MAP that i unplugged.
I am new to the Hex2 and I am not sure what kind of scans I can do to help diagnose the problem. I have read through the interactive manual for it.
I was hoping someone may have had this issue before, or could give me some pointers on operating the HEX 2 to get some decent information to troubleshoot.
Thanks in advance.
T
 
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TysonK

Member
Joined
Oct 8, 2014
Location
London Ontario Canada
TDI
1992 Jetta D (ran aground 450k km)2000 Jetta TDI (ran aground 350k km) 2001 Jetta TDI (ran aground 375k km) 2006 Jetta TDI (Work in Progress)
I have cut and pasted the original scan. Keep in mind that I think most of the engine codes were due to the previous owners tinkering.
After clearing, only the MAP related codes came back.

Mileage: 282550km-175568miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AB HW: 028 101 223 8
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 7550
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2555056
Coding: 0050071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 6393ABBAE758CB232F1-8036

6 Faults Found:
000275 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
P0113 - 000 - Signal too High - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 282538 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 05:24:38

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.84 V
Temperature: 27.9°C
Temperature: 49.5°C
Temperature: 37.8°C

000568 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31)
P0238 - 000 - Signal too High
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 13
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.46 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Absolute Pres.: 1040.4 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 2182.8 mbar

000579 - Solenoid Valve for Boost Pressure Control (N75)
P0243 - 000 - Malfunction - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.16 V
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Absolute Pres.: 979.2 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 958.8 mbar

000258 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
P0102 - 000 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 282538 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 06:26:32

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 252 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Duty Cycle: 100.6 %
Bin. Bits: 00101100
Mass Air / Rev.: 850.0 mg/str
Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str

008214 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1)
P2016 - 000 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.01 V
Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str
Duty Cycle: 95.1 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000

008213 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1)
P2015 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 282540 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 01:42:46

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 756 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 13.60 V
Mass Air / Rev.: 75.0 mg/str
Duty Cycle: 95.1 %
Bin. Bits: 00000000

Readiness: 1 5 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00T12001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 40D94436568EB03B123-8014

2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
57511 - Unknown Error Code
Unknown - 015 - - MIL ON

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 DG
Component: Climatic PQ35 090 0505
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6C81C0860A86845B9EB-8038

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D HW: 3C0 937 049 D
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000000156653
Coding: 10018E234004180000140000001400000008730B5C
Shop #: WSC 93180 999 00298
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0402
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 93180

3 Faults Found:
00834 - Signal for Activation of Heated Rear Window
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 47
Mileage: 247736 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 14.45 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00975 - Heated Rear Window (Z1)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 47
Mileage: 247733 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 14.50 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 86
Mileage: 282545 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 11.05 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E HW: 1K0 909 605 E
Component: 1T AIRBAG VW8R 024 6300
Revision: 03024000 Serial number: 0037KD03NUX3
Coding: 0012628
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2E050A8EFC1A364BF0F-807A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 E
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0005

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME0A73271FG

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME0B0841310

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME08170E300

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME081A24272

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME076B490FC

Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME076B4060

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
Component: J0527 034 0070
Coding: 0000021
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 78A9ECD64EDE38FB6A3-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 852 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212
Coding: 0023303
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Revision: H10 Serial number: 28001057198135
Coding: 3D3F0B40071002
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 852 D
Component: IMMO 3HL 1212
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 363522EE044A0E8BB8F-8062

4 Faults Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00100 - Drivers Interior Locking Button (E308)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
008 - Implausible Signal
00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 323D1EFEE82212AB947-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 137803281B09050F880F048051A0
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 74B1D8E652B65C9B46B-8020

Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted

Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted

Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted

3 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 372B2FEA0340F783A39-8062

1 Fault Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 A HW: 1K0 035 161 A
Component: Radio DE2 012 0014
Revision: 00012000 Serial number: VWZ4Z7E6045643
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 1D67DD4281BCBDD3595-8048

1 Fault Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
014 - Defective - Intermittent

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 313F11F2ED2429B3EDD-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 323D1EFEE82212AB947-8066

1 Fault Found:
00935 - Electric Window Motor; Rear Right (V27)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D070D82F11C4D53C95-8078

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35)
014 - Defective

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:07, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.4V. VIgn 0.0V)------

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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: 3VWRT31K26M680907 Mileage: 282550km-175568miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AB HW: 028 101 223 8
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 7550
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2555056
Coding: 0050071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 6393ABBAE758CB232F1-8036

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00T12001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 40D94436568EB03B123-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 DG
Component: Climatic PQ35 090 0505
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6C81C0860A86845B9EB-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D HW: 3C0 937 049 D
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000000156653
Coding: 10018E234004180000140000001400000008730B5C
Shop #: WSC 93180 999 00298
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0402
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 93180

1 Fault Found:
00834 - Signal for Activation of Heated Rear Window
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 48
Mileage: 282559 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 14.00 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E HW: 1K0 909 605 E
Component: 1T AIRBAG VW8R 024 6300
Revision: 03024000 Serial number: 0037KD03NUX3
Coding: 0012628
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2E050A8EFC1A364BF0F-807A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 E
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0005

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME0A73271FG

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME0B0841310

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME08170E300

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME081A24272

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME076B490FC

Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME076B4060

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
Component: J0527 034 0070
Coding: 0000021
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 78A9ECD64EDE38FB6A3-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 852 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212
Coding: 0023303
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Revision: H10 Serial number: 28001057198135
Coding: 3D3F0B40071002
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 852 D
Component: IMMO 3HL 1212
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2A0D069EC0F25A6B2C7-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 363522EE044A0E8BB8F-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 323D1EFEE82212AB947-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 137803281B09050F880F048051A0
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 74B1D8E652B65C9B46B-8020

Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted

Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted

Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 372B2FEA0340F783A39-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-161.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 161 A HW: 1K0 035 161 A
Component: Radio DE2 012 0014
Revision: 00012000 Serial number: VWZ4Z7E6045643
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 1D67DD4281BCBDD3595-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 313F11F2ED2429B3EDD-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 323D1EFEE82212AB947-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D070D82F11C4D53C95-8078

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35)
014 - Defective

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:03, VBatt start/end: 14.1V/14.1V. VIgn 0.0V)------
 

TysonK

Member
Joined
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Location
London Ontario Canada
TDI
1992 Jetta D (ran aground 450k km)2000 Jetta TDI (ran aground 350k km) 2001 Jetta TDI (ran aground 375k km) 2006 Jetta TDI (Work in Progress)
Those that help themselves... help themselves.

OK, didnt get any responses to OP so I have followed the great information on this forum and did some troubleshooting on my own.

Using Vagcom, I determined the timing was off on the ignition. Torsion value was -1.5 which is determined to be retarded. So following procedure in FAQ i adjusted the timing until I was at 0 Torsion value.
With high hopes I fired the ol' girl up and much to my disappointment symptoms still persist.
So, I decided to do a camshaft inspection. All lobes look good on camshaft. Chamfered edges are all intact. lobes show very minimal wear. although there is wear visible to the eye, running a finger over it, I can not feel any actual wear. I did not have a mirror suitable to inspect lifters but did not think it was worth it since all lobes were fine.

So, I am at a loss at this point.

I start car with MAP disconnected and engine runs fine. No turbo of course. But no excessive smoke, no hesitation to throttle changes.
I turn off car, and reconnect the MAP and car will idle. If I give it some throttle it sputters a bit. I have to feather throttle to get it over 2k Rpm. and seems to run smooth at that point (sitting stationary). It produces a lot of white smoke, and if I let the Rpms drop to idle again it goes back to a rough idle and white smoke is emitted from the hood and tail pipe. I had the air intake pipe off and noticed that some smoke exits out the ASV. I disconnect the MAP again and smoke stops and runs fine again.

I looked at the ASV and it does not seem to fully close on ignition off. It seems to hunt a bit and tries to close (makes it to about 25% open) THere is a whining noise that comes from the ASV servo. as it cycles between full open and 25% open, then settles at full open. Forum research suggests this would only cause some shuddering when turning off the car. Shuddering is the least of my worries at this point.

I monitored the injection quantity using Vagcom and everything seems in spec. But I am not sure how to interpret. Here are some of the log I created while monitoring this was before I adjusted timing:


Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

22:04:57 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
-0.07 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
0.09 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
-0.26 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
0.24 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4
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VIN: 3VWRT31K26M680907 License Plate:
Mileage: 282560km-175574mi Repair Order:


Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

22:09:17 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
0.09 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
0.00 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
-0.24 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
0.12 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4

22:09:17 Group 004: Pump-Jet Valves
840 /min Engine Speed (G28)
1.9 °BTDC Injection Start (specified)
7.7°KW Injection Duration (specified)
-1.5°KW Torsion Value

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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

22:10:06 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
-0.05 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
0.09 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
-0.35 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
0.28 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4

22:10:06 Group 004: Pump-Jet Valves
819 /min Engine Speed (G28)
1.9 °BTDC Injection Start (specified)
7.1°KW Injection Duration (specified)
-1.5°KW Torsion Value

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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

22:10:10 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
-0.02 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
0.09 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
-0.35 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
0.28 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4

22:10:10 Group 004: Pump-Jet Valves
840 /min Engine Speed (G28)
1.9 °BTDC Injection Start (specified)
7.1°KW Injection Duration (specified)
-1.5°KW Torsion Value

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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

22:10:12 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
-0.02 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
0.09 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
-0.35 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
0.28 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4

22:10:12 Group 004: Pump-Jet Valves
819 /min Engine Speed (G28)
1.9 °BTDC Injection Start (specified)
7.1°KW Injection Duration (specified)
-1.5°KW Torsion Value

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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

22:10:14 Group 013: Idle Stabilization (Injection Quantity Deviation)
-0.05 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 1
0.14 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 2
-0.38 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 3
0.26 mg/str Injection Quantity Deviation Cyl. 4

22:10:14 Group 004: Pump-Jet Valves
1176 /min Engine Speed (G28)
3.1 °BTDC Injection Start (specified)
10.7°KW Injection Duration (specified)
-1.5°KW Torsion Value

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I would really appreciate any input or troubleshooting suggestions at this point. I am at a loss.

Thanks in advance.
T
 

TysonK

Member
Joined
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Location
London Ontario Canada
TDI
1992 Jetta D (ran aground 450k km)2000 Jetta TDI (ran aground 350k km) 2001 Jetta TDI (ran aground 375k km) 2006 Jetta TDI (Work in Progress)
Well... I re-installed VC and preformed injector cleaning using LM Diesel purge. Used DIY guide on the site, using plastic bottle and short circuiting DP to the injector pump. Changed Fuel filter and cleaned canister while I had it apart.

Still no change in performance.

Tried to take it for a ride to see if I could force a code. got to the end of the driveway (with MAP plugged in) and could not get any power once on the road, just smoke.

Unplugged MAP and engine runs fine (no turbo) as per before. Drove it down an concession and back into garage.
Scanned and still only the MAP related codes, although it did throw a Fuel temp sensor code:

000387 - Fuel Temp. Sensor A (G81)
P0183 - 000 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.63 V
Temperature: 133.2°C
Temperature: 22.5°C
Temperature: 38.7°C

This could have been thrown during injector cleaning due to short circuiting DP ?
Could a bad fuel temp sensor cause any of the symptoms I am seeing? Doesnt seem likely but hoping for someone to chime in.

Looking for any insight. I know this is another 'smoke' post but I feel I have done the leg work for someone to take the time to send some help my way..

Thanks,
T
 

TysonK

Member
Joined
Oct 8, 2014
Location
London Ontario Canada
TDI
1992 Jetta D (ran aground 450k km)2000 Jetta TDI (ran aground 350k km) 2001 Jetta TDI (ran aground 375k km) 2006 Jetta TDI (Work in Progress)
Just in case someone else comes across this post. The cause of my problems were bad seals in the turbo. Turbo was swapped out with a working unit and this ol' girl is back in action.
 

Brett San Diego

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Joined
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Location
San Diego
TDI
02 Jetta wagon manual
I was going to ask about your turbo before getting to your last post. I salute you for coming back to your original thread to post the resolution. There is nothing more annoying than a thread dying out with no resolution posted.
Brett
 
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