05.05 nb bew auto axle interchange

[ninedee_golf_tdi]

I'm looking for axles to replace the current Chinese ones. I can't find any other mk4 axles that are the same, neither jetta nor golf. Can anyone advise if other mk4's use the same axles ? Thanks.

 

[oilhammer]

Not in the US. A4 FWD DSG only. Ane the OEMs went NLA about a decade ago.

I'd ask Raxles if he has any info on this, because you are not alone in the problem. The OEM ones probably could have been rebuilt multiple times over, but once they got scrapped and the Chaxles installed, you're kind screwed.

 

[gforce1108]

Didn't save your originals? There have been a few people parting out DSG beetles. Nothing else will work.

 

[ninedee_golf_tdi]

This is a car I recently bought and am going to donate/swap it for a 99.5 which the girl is afraid of driving (5 speed).

 

[oilhammer]

The irony here is about all the 2-pedal BEW NBs are good for are 5sp swaps, as no DSG-related bits are available for them anymore, and they are too unique to use anything from something else. Even the M-unit is its own specific part (although those are NLA for even more of the common ones now, too, so....)

 

[ninedee_golf_tdi]

You live, you learn. Raxles can't affordably help without cores.

 

[bigsexyTDI]

The irony here is about all the 2-pedal BEW NBs are good for are 5sp swaps, as no DSG-related bits are available for them anymore, and they are too unique to use anything from something else. Even the M-unit is its own specific part (although those are NLA for even more of the common ones now, too, so....)

That is unfortunate to read indeed. I am always on the lookout for unicorn low mile New Beetles (old folks vacation home car, etc) and thought that if it happened to be a DSG BEW I would be ok with it, but now not so much... bummer.

 

[csstevej]

What about some of our vendors over seas?

 

[ninedee_golf_tdi]

I'm not as familiar as others are as to where these cars were sent to. But, any port in a storm.

 

[oilhammer]

Mystery to me why the BEW NB got the DSG, and the BEW G/J got the Jatco. But, the packaging of the Jatco is such that they had to run the engine/trans harnesses differently, which meant the battery tray in them sits UP an inch or so. This difference may have just been incompatible with the NB as it was already unable to have the H7 battery as it was. And with the diesel, they didn't want to do what they did with the TT and make that on-off goof ball tiny battery the fitment. Because the 02E DSG despite having six speeds, is dimensionally smaller than the 09A Jatco five speed.

But then it begs the question: why didn't they just use the 02E in ALL the BEW applications? The Jatco is kind of rare. It was only used behind the BEW in the G/J and behind a few 1.8t and VR6 engines (VERY few... as I've never even seen one behind a VR6, and only two ever behind the 1.8t). And what makes the argument even worse for the Jatco: they were also using the 6sp Aisin box behind some engines, even back into 2001, as the FWD 1.8t TT got them, as well as some of the 2002+ 2.slo NB Convertibles (just the 'verts, not the hard tops ???? ).

Volkswagen is weird.

 

[gforce1108]

Mystery to me why the BEW NB got the DSG, and the BEW G/J got the Jatco. But, the packaging of the Jatco is such that they had to run the engine/trans harnesses differently, which meant the battery tray in them sits UP an inch or so. This difference may have just been incompatible with the NB as it was already unable to have the H7 battery as it was. And with the diesel, they didn't want to do what they did with the TT and make that on-off goof ball tiny battery the fitment. Because the 02E DSG despite having six speeds, is dimensionally smaller than the 09A Jatco five speed.

But then it begs the question: why didn't they just use the 02E in ALL the BEW applications? The Jatco is kind of rare. It was only used behind the BEW in the G/J and behind a few 1.8t and VR6 engines (VERY few... as I've never even seen one behind a VR6, and only two ever behind the 1.8t). And what makes the argument even worse for the Jatco: they were also using the 6sp Aisin box behind some engines, even back into 2001, as the FWD 1.8t TT got them, as well as some of the 2002+ 2.slo NB Convertibles (just the 'verts, not the hard tops ???? ).

Volkswagen is weird.

Unfortunately - I've been acquainted with a 1.8T 09a too well... 1.8T 2005 GTI came with it. I did a trans service with the timing belt at 100k. Around 140 it started having some shifting "issues". Kid kept driving it delivering pizzas. False neutral in 3rd, then slam and chirp the tires. No codes in VCDS. Tried a set of solenoids and a fluid change - no improvement. Found a used $200 "yard tested" trans and swapped it with the TCM, still no 3rd. He sent it to auction. I pulled the new solenoids out before scrapping it at least.

 

[ninedee_golf_tdi]

Frans from DAP said basically, "good luck". Does anyone know where this particular year/model was exported to and possibly a contact there ? Thanks.

 

[boertje]

Even if you had the original axles, replacing the inner and outer joints is cost prohibitive if one can even find those. At least the boots are common.

 

[oilhammer]

This is where a call to the fellow at Raxles may help, as he may at least know if the splines on the inside of the shaft are the same as something else. The outer joints, and thus the outer splines, are all the same (02J, 01M, 09A, 09G, and 02E). It is the INNERs that are different. The 09A, 01M, 09G, 02E, and some of the very late 02Js bolted to the 1.8t engines all use the tripod style inner plunge joint, but they are slightly different. And some of the tripod style joints are peened over and prohibit easy removal of the outer housing of the joint.

There may be a case where some other shaft/joint combo could be assembled to work with these unique applications.

 

[boertje]

I have the outer joint as DSG outer cv joint 1km498099a but taking the same outer boot as the 02m axle. Are you sure about that “outer splines, are all the same (02J, 01M, 09A, 09G, and 02E).” Was wondering if the 02m outer joint might work but can find no info.

 

[oilhammer]

I thought all the [4 cyl] outer joints were the same. If they are not, then that's news to me. But admittedly I've not even seen a DSG NB in quite a while, and my ETKA machine went TU earlier this year so I cannot look things up like I used to be able to.

I know some TTs use a different outer joint, as they bolt in (like the A5+ cars and B cars) instead of a big nut. But the bearing is the same.

VAG tends to mix 'n match things, and they revise part numbers all the time too (a 1Kx prefix is for the A5, not the 1Jx most NB mechanicals would be). And as I said, the A5s bolt in.

 

[oilhammer]

I only see the same old 357 prefix (so, back to the B2 era) 36 spline outer joint when I look them up, but it isn't from ETKA so that may be in error.

 

[boertje]

A call to raxles yielded no info on shaft splines, etc. Said he could rebuilt oem shaft for $349 though. Last one he did was a year ago for a 2005 bew dsg bug.

 

[mittzlepick]

Try the vortex? Maybe there was a gas bug with same offering? Or if so order for that combo or lookup as that from somewhere like ra?

 

[mittzlepick]

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[ninedee_golf_tdi]

I posted on vortex and am receiving the same scams I get here. I'm trying to find an oem set, not another chaxle set to replace my current chaxles. I can see this is going to be a game of patience. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[bigsexyTDI]

I posted on vortex and am receiving the same scams I get here.

What scams are you getting here?

 

[boertje]

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Non of the offerings are oem so that would be a big no.

 

[ninedee_golf_tdi]

These are typical of the scammers messages. They create an account, immediately contact folks looking for a part, hopefully they get reported and booted, then they're gone. These may have come from vortex, but the ones on tdiclub are similar... all gone like smoke though, not even a trace in the email box.

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[oilhammer]

Yeah, the Intarwebs are chock full of these wastes of flesh. Really sad how many useless dirtbags there are among humans.