This is something I'm dealing with right now as well. My TDI would need tires for the winter and I'm not buying them for a car that is going back to VW soon.
I'll buy my next vehicle cash and I don't need the VW money but I really don't have the parking space. I will probably jump on a deal...
Very unlikely. This was my first VW and I was unimpressed with VW's response to this issue. Stringing along owners for close to a year with no answer doesn't sit well with me.
I also wasn't terribly impressed with certain other aspects of the ownership experience: cost of parts/maintenance...
NOW WE'RE TALKING
Everyone is only worried about getting the initial monetary compensation. What about the long term mental effects from owning an emissions cheating car? I'll never be able to trust what an automaker says again!
The die cast cars exceed emission regulations too? :p
I think...
I think we need an interview process to determine true damage compensation.
"Show me on the model where the evil corporation hurt you."
*hands customer a 1:24 diecast model of a Jetta*
It's more that people don't care. I have better things to worry about than how VW arrived at giving me well over market value in September 2015 for my car. I don't see how anything they did means I should receive $5100 in damages (on top of the retail value of my car) and would love to hear...
...let's be honest here. No matter what VW did you were going to find a reason to complain.
At the end of the day you are getting offered well above market value for your car and arguing over the semantics in how they reached that number is a waste of time. Good luck getting what you are "owed."
If someone is giving me 3k over what something is worth I'm not going to be too worried about it. They're not "reaching in my pocket and taking 2k" just because I'm not getting 5k over what it is worth.
If VW had gone off of private party values they would have adjusted the cash compensation...
I thought you were talking about the "modification" amount.
Read the buyback section again, important part is bolded:
You're referencing private party value instead of the trade in value that they're using.
With very few exceptions, the people that work at dealerships don't give a crap about the vehicles they are selling. If you read a magazine article about a vehicle you know more than the average salesman selling it.
This is common throughout the industry. Get used to it.
There is no "compensation" amount. You are being made whole by getting the value of your car in September 2015 ($13,150).
You would get the "compensation amount" if you planned to keep your car as they need to reimburse you for your lower resale value when your car is sold at a later date...
Probably going to be buying a tow vehicle for the track car. Haven't looked too seriously but it's either going to be a larger SUV or a truck.
I'm very likely going to be relocating for a new job soon so fuel economy will no longer be a concern. If that falls through I'll look at a cheaper...
Looks like I'll be getting ~16k for my TDI Cup.
My commute is about to get shorter, the car needs tires soon, and it's reaching a mileage where things are likely to start breaking. I'm ready to move on to a different car (actually looking at tow vehicles for my track car) so I'll take the...
So you're saying if everything on earth goes wrong and the dealership charges him at least twice as much as normal he's halfway to a Tesla Model S? Great point, can't believe I didn't understand it initially. :p
There is a potential he could buy the car for $7500 and nothing could happen also...
I wouldn't buy a higher mileage TDI if you can't do your own work due to some of the higher dollar failures that can occur. The parts are not nearly that bad so if you can work on your car yourself it's not much worse than any other used car.
...a used Tesla is a 50-60k+ car. How the hell...
Just to expand a little on the EPA testing. The EPA test cycle is done in a laboratory under very strict conditions. These test methods are available to the OEMs.
There is also a certain amount of self certification with the EPA only spot checking results. I haven't looked into how much of...
They can definitely require the car to meet emissions standards from the date it was produced.
The sticking point is that the car had 2 programs and the exhaust emissions as tested by the EPA were not representative of the car in the real world. VW will be responsible for making a system that...
The cars passed because they had a mode that would only activate for the test.
For whatever reason people at VW decided that the emissions compliant tune was not acceptable for normal operation. Could have been reduced performance, fuel economy, life of components, and/or something else.
The Hyundai fuel economy settlement is probably a good reference for what we are discussing: https://www.cars.com/articles/2013/12/hyundai-kia-settles-mileage-lawsuit-owners-get-lump-sum-option/
This only addresses a fuel economy reduction but it's a pretty good precedent.
The problem is that...
I'm not sure how CA works but in IL they only want to see the paperwork that it has been completed/passed. The DMV really doesn't want to get involved with enforcement of something like this and they haven't in the past (think of how many recalls have been done because cars are actually...
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