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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old March 3rd, 2004, 05:28   #1
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Default Any harm removing engine cover?

I know that the cover is in place for insulating purposes, both sound and heat. Any harm if removed? Besides increased noise and heat loss.
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 05:31   #2
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does it get cold where you live?
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 05:32   #3
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-50 celsius in the winter....+30 celsius in the summer. Although I wasn't planning on removing it until May when temps get above 10
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 05:33   #4
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P.S. -25 now...little snap of winter returns
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 06:06   #5
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Default Any harm removing engine cover?

I am not certain of the appeal to remove it apart from making easier access to the oil filter and for visual inspection of the engine.

IMO, these engines have virtually no waste heat and chill down so rapidly when turned off, I can't imagine why anyone would want to give up that tiny amount of heat. Even during the hot weather, there is lot little excess heat...it's part of the reason these cars can achieve the tremendous fuel economy they do.
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 06:08   #6
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I am not certain of the appeal to remove it apart from making easier access to the oil filter and for visual inspection of the engine.

IMO, these engines have virtually no waste heat and chill down so rapidly when turned off, I can't imagine why anyone would want to give up that tiny amount of heat. Even during the hot weather, there is lot little excess heat...it's part of the reason these cars can achieve the tremendous fuel economy they do.

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I agree. Other than visual inspection, what would be the purpose. Take it off to inspect every 3000 miles, which would mount to three times per oil change. It takes a minute to do.
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 06:15   #7
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Default Any harm removing engine cover?

mine came off when the foam began too... what a mess.

besides, i like looking at the engine, not a cover.
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 06:17   #8
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-50 celsius in the winter....+30 celsius in the summer. Although I wasn't planning on removing it until May when temps get above 10

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Well the summer temp sounds lovely but MINUS 50!!??!? How the hell do you survive up there? I hate it here in Kansas City in the winter time. If I could afford it, I'd move out west to San Diego and ride my bike all year long.

YEESH!
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 06:20   #9
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mine came off when the foam began too... what a mess.

besides, i like looking at the engine, not a cover.

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I do to. [sic] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I just think in the winter when it is cold the cover serves a purpose.
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 08:14   #10
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Default Any harm removing engine cover?

It does seem to keep the engine somewhat cleaner as well, from what I have seen...
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 08:32   #11
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isnt there a significant increase in the 'dieselness' of the sound if the insulation is removed?
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 10:31   #12
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isnt there a significant increase in the 'dieselness' of the sound if the insulation is removed?

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why yes, yes it does. I am running mine without an engine cover or rear engine bay seal, just so I can listen to my engine/turbo.
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I am running mine without an engine cover or rear engine bay seal....

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Indeed, if you want to hear the engine, remove that gasket that runs the width of the windshield...then you'll hear the engine!

Sheesh, I had that off my car for a day or two and could NOT believe the noise. [img]/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] VW has done a very decent job of isolating the cacophony from the passenger compartment.
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 10:55   #14
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Default Any harm removing engine cover?

Hey - I bought that cacaphony on purpose! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I'm with Aaron onthis one. Well, since it might occasionally reach into the 20's in the winter here, I might reattach that cover come November. I have to admit, though, all cleaned up the cover makes a nice piece of wall art (my wife has the patience of a saint)!
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 10:57   #15
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Default Any harm removing engine cover?

I run mine without the cover too. Besides 2 of the mounting nuts were mysteriously missing last time I was at dealer.
Im trying not to go back to dealer.
I have some warrenty issues so I will have to go back, no cruise, and the little switch on the drivers door that has he light to open fuel door,never goes off(slight battery drain).
I found a local place with 35 years VW experience to do my TB for 250.00 plus parts. Have appointment for monday 3/9 will see how it goes.
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