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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old October 29th, 2003, 14:10   #1
Tditodd
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TDI(s): 2000 red
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Default defrost mirrors

If I have read right the side mirrors defrost when you turn the rear window defroster on.Now mine don't seem to be working and can't see any fuse blown then maybe i just don't know how to work these things.(went from yugo to jetta a big jump in toys) But i do know I have the side mirror defrost on my car. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old October 29th, 2003, 14:26   #2
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Default defrost mirrors

Another poster who doesn't give: location, model, make, and year.

So, off to the dart board again...


1954 Buick 4-door sedan, in Miami Fla.

Ok, you don't have heated mirrors. And surely won't need them in Florida!


[ Now on the offhand chance that my dart-throwing capabilities did not successfully pic your correct make/model/year, and that you might possibly own a VW Jetta/Golf that is just a few years old, then the rear view mirror heaters do not activate with the rear window. They activate with the power mirror switch being set in the middle.]
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Old October 29th, 2003, 14:26   #3
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Default defrost mirrors

???????????????

Your right-side mirror defrosts when the rear window defroster is on?????? Hmmm... Ive been grousing because my right side mirror does NOT defrost when I have the defrost knob on the driver's side turned on..it never occurred to me that the switch would not turn on BOTH mirror's defroster...

These cars are more and more special....
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Old October 29th, 2003, 14:48   #4
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On my Jetta the side mirrors are adjustable by the side knob. You move it to "L" to adjust the left mirror, "R" for the right and the middle symbol is an heating element symbol to heat up or defrost the mirrors. On my Golf the mirrors were manual and I think the 'heat' was on all the time? , but on the Jetta the mirrors are only de-iced when in the middle position. Because of that (and maybe I'm wrong here), I don't leave it in the middle setting because I don't want the mirrors powered all the time...and as a result, the mirrors never get defrosted because I forget about the setting. [img]/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
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Old October 29th, 2003, 15:18   #5
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Default defrost mirrors

So Iíve been defrosting my mirrors all summer?? I never thought it would work that way, didn't bother to read the manual about it. Seems kind of lame. That reminds me of the seat heater switch. There should be an indicator or something so you know theyíre on. If my girlfriend happens to leave the passenger side one on, I wonít know until I happen to feel the seat or something. Between the constant mirror defrosting and the inadvertent seat heating, that must be the explanation for my poor mileage. I thought it was just because Iíve been driving like hell.
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Old October 29th, 2003, 15:22   #6
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I could be wrong here, but I do seem to remember reading something about keeping it turned off of the middle position when not in use. I agree that it's dumb and should shut off auto like the rear window defogger does.
When I buy my cars I skim read the manual, then come here from then on. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old October 29th, 2003, 16:35   #7
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This is a 2000 jetta red 4 door Am,Fm,Cd.4 round wheels.(Last time I looked chevy did not put a TDI in)It's in the middle and still no heat and rear defroster is on so can anyone tell me how it is or why it don't work?
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Old October 29th, 2003, 19:07   #8
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Without a blown fuse, and with the switch in the middle position, the mirrors should heat. On my 2000 Jetta, the rear defrost switch seems to have no effect on the heating - only the positon of the mirror switch. I'd say that if you don't feel them heating within 1-2 minutes, the heating element is shot. I've had it happen to both my mirrors.

They were easy to replace - if you search on this board, instructions were given. The mirror cost me $24 for one side, and $37 for the other (don't ask me - same dealer, 2 weeks apart - they were different part #s though).

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Old October 29th, 2003, 19:54   #9
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[ QUOTE ]
Tditodd said:It's in the middle and still no heat and rear defroster is on so can anyone tell me how it is or why it don't work?

[/ QUOTE ]Probably because you drove around all summer with the knob in the middle position, so now the heaters are burned out. If I hadn't noticed the little "defrost" symbol in the middle position when I first got the car, I probably would have done the same thing.

Cars without the little knob on the drivers door (cars with manual mirrors) turn on the mirror heat using the rear defrost button.
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Old October 29th, 2003, 21:47   #10
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Weedeater said: [ QUOTE ]
So, off to the dart board again...


1954 Buick 4-door sedan, in Miami Fla.

Ok, you don't have heated mirrors. And surely won't need them in Florida!

[/ QUOTE ]

That just so cracks me up, I saw that in another post of yours. Would you be so kind as to throw that dart once for me? I would like to know what your thoughts on my third vehicle would be, using your 'dart' method.

Tanks,

Mike [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old October 30th, 2003, 13:37   #11
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Chances are they're fried. If you're interested, I have both mirrors and could sell them to you for $30 + shipping.
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Old October 30th, 2003, 13:44   #12
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If they work and fit my 2000 jetta i will take them.let me know.Also i went out and checked mine and there is voltage when ever the knob is on defrost with or with out rear window defroster on.SO turn the defroster off in summer or when no frost. should work with rear window defroster.
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Old October 30th, 2003, 14:19   #13
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[ QUOTE ]
Tditodd said:
If they work and fit my 2000 jetta i will take them.let me know.Also i went out and checked mine and there is voltage when ever the knob is on defrost with or with out rear window defroster on.SO turn the defroster off in summer or when no frost. should work with rear window defroster.

[/ QUOTE ]

I checked on my car (separate mirror adjustment) and the mirrors do not come on in either left or right when the rear defroster is on. So, the only way to switch the heating on is to put the switch in the middle position.

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Old October 30th, 2003, 14:52   #14
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Default defrost mirrors

Im interested in this thread since the right mirror of my '02 NB is apparently shot. Do you replace the entire mirror module -- the whole mess bolted to the doorframe --, or just the mirror itself, or just the heating element?

Its getting cool in Ohio now, I like having my left-hand heated mirror.. my Suby didnt have them... like the right-side to match.. <g>
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Old October 30th, 2003, 14:59   #15
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Yep, they'll fit your Jetta just fine. Send me an e-mail with your address so I can figure out shipping charges and we can iron out the details. mightymrclean@gmx.net
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