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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta/Golf (99.5-2004) & New Beetle. Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old June 30th, 2003, 19:33   #1
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hey everyone, I had the great joy of cleaning the intake and intercooler on my '00 NB today. Wow, it was fun, in a wierd sort of way but man was it clogged! I broke the plastic linkage piece that connects the anti-shudder to the EGR...just like SOOOOO many of you all have warned me about!! I even knew NOT to break it, DAMN IT I broke it! The stealership told my girlfriend that they don't sell the anti-shudder valve by itself, we had to buy a whole NEW EGR valve! Is this right? I thought for sure that they sold that thing...is there anyone out there who has bought it seperately? Hmmmm...STEALERSHIP!! EGR was 200 bucks, by the way! Now she's clean as a <turbo> whistle and runs like never before. But it still smokes some at WOT...hoping to do the VAG-COM EGR recalibration and IQ setting over the next few days. Thanks for the great instructions all!!
Took me all of 5.5 hours total including lunch and a walk to the station to get some gas and diesel to clean out the intercooler (A SMALL BIT OF SAND IN THE INTERCOOLER!! EEEK!)
~~~~~> Scott
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Old July 1st, 2003, 05:41   #2
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You do not have to replace the EGR for a broken anti shudder. Just make sure it's all the way open, and leave it alone. If you don't like the shudder when you shut down, use a piece of coat hanger to activate it. You could also use a rubber band wrapped around both pieces, that should fix it also. I broke mine when I cleaned my intake, and have been living with a short small shudder on shutdown.
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Old July 1st, 2003, 09:39   #3
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awww, I wish I knew that!!!! --Scott
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Old July 4th, 2003, 13:03   #4
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soo... nobody feels my pain!??!
~~~> Scott
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Old July 4th, 2003, 15:54   #5
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soo... nobody feels my pain!??!
~~~> Scott
Naw. Should have searched first
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Old July 4th, 2003, 16:40   #6
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I broke mine. Got some Goop and a short metal piece from a coat hanger and fixed it. But I heard that it depends where you break it. I broke it right in the middle so it was an easy repair.
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Old July 4th, 2003, 19:49   #7
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The shudder valve is very easy to fix. Don't even need to take the EGR off. I broke mine right at the base. Here is what it looks like:
Just take a small screw & washer & reattach the two pieces. There was already a hollow spot in the shaft, but I lengthened it a bit with a small drill bit. A shorter screw would also work
Here is the valve assembly apart. Its just held together with some barbs. Just pry it gently apart with a flathead screwdriver.
To remove the valve, just twist it out of its bracket. replacement is the opposite of removal.
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Old July 4th, 2003, 21:32   #8
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Just install a DG race pipe and forget it
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Old July 28th, 2003, 20:02   #9
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lol bawlsyTDI I did, I knew I could break it...It was funny my girl came in right when I broke it, I had told her of the "plastic piece that breaks easily" she laughed at me and said, "Well, at least you knew you were gonna break it!"
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Old July 28th, 2003, 20:22   #10
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Impex sells the same EGR valve for $168.00. Next time, if you have time, you can save some money by not buying from the dealership.

Glad you got it fixed.

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Old July 28th, 2003, 21:44   #11
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What did ya do with the old EGR?
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Old July 29th, 2003, 11:13   #12
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lol you mean the STEALERSHIP!!! (Sadly enough, I was leaving on a 4,000 mile road trip the next morning!)

Yeah, now I have a $200 paperweight that reminds me why EGR on a Diesel engine is a bad idea! (I left it all clogged)

--Scott
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Old July 29th, 2003, 17:46   #13
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In your experience during what part of the cleaning operation is the part most vulnerable for breakage?

Thanks
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Old August 2nd, 2003, 00:46   #14
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Well, the part where I was taking the plastic piece off without actually having to! Man, it really looks like it should pop right off with no problem! Instead, it breaks with no problem I guess I could have left it hooked up and just cleaned the EGR over the engine in a pan or something...EGR mod (thanks Lyle!) says I should never have to mess with it anymore!
---Scott
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Old November 13th, 2003, 00:33   #15
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I sure hope that none of you guys that have left the broken anti-shudder broken never have a turbo or other kind of failure that blows oil into the intake. You'll have no way to shut down the engine, and it'll overrev until it self destructs.
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