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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old December 22nd, 2017, 16:20   #1
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For those who wish to do some tuning from mild to wide, what is the range on prices?

And for an example, what might be results (HP and Torque) on my 2015 Golf TDi DSG?

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Old December 22nd, 2017, 17:10   #2
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https://malonetuning.com/

http://www.kermatdi.com/

https://www.rawtekinc.com/

http://www.fixmyvw.com/
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Old December 22nd, 2017, 18:20   #3
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plan on $350-400 depending on what you get, The tune will not change the price, the materials will, like a loader, or a 3 bar MAP etc..
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 06:04   #4
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350-400 may be of the older tunes, the current prices have climbed with inflation.

I don't think you can get an ECU tune a '15 for under $5-600.

Also, ECU tunes only really work if you drive the car and utilize the peak numbers, 90% of the time you can accomplish the same feeling buy just pressing more on the go pedal.

What you may enjoy is a TCU tune, cost is about the same but you use the DSG and its shifting way more than peak HP numbers.
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 06:40   #5
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^^^ This.
Your your nozzles a few sizes and up your boost by 3-4PSI will do the same thing as a tune and wont really effect your mileage any. Not sure what your ECU's Map will let you get away with in more boost but its cheep and will benefit from other mods like head work.
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 07:42   #6
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it cost me about 2 grand (uk)to get a pd130 to 210bhp and 360lbs, that inc clutch .. after that your into gtb's bigger nozzles and head work.. after 260 ish the bang for buck isnt worth it imo

using old bit with new hybrid i hope to get 240bhp and 380lbs
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 08:14   #7
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is that in pounds or USD? If it is, 2600 aint that bad. i have an easy 2K into my engine alone and its stock internals. but its an old AHU
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 08:52   #8
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is that in pounds or USD? If it is, 2600 aint that bad. i have an easy 2K into my engine alone and its stock internals. but its an old AHU
pounds mate , gt1756 hybrid, decat. fmic mapping and clutch..
see if you can pick up set of second hand pd130 injectors and your laughing
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Nice. Maybe some head work and a cam. If the injectors are out of this world, you could always go water meth injection for some extra power.
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Old December 23rd, 2017, 10:02   #10
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On my old Jetta i paid to have it done and parts, labor and tune spent 2100 with a Malone tune. My current Touareg cost 1300 or so all in but i did the labor myself. My American diesel trucks cost about 2000 each to delete which includes Tuner and hard parts but labor is done by me. All well worth it in the end my friend from an efficiency, power and longevity stand point.
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Old December 25th, 2017, 01:20   #11
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Nice. Maybe some head work and a cam. If the injectors are out of this world, you could always go water meth injection for some extra power.
very tempted with w/m i must say mate. ive read cams give little in way of gains and can cause valves to meet piston.. that cant be good lol
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Nice. Maybe some head work and a cam. If the injectors are out of this world, you could always go water meth injection for some extra power.
very tempted with w/m i must say mate. ive read cams give little in way of gains and can cause valves to meet piston.. that cant be good lol
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Interesting conversation, but most of it is irrelevant to the OP. I'm not aware of larger injectors for the EA288 engine. Regardless, there's plenty of fuel available through electronic adjustment. Turbo upgrades don't exist yet, at least not in this market, for the EA288. A turbo upgrade would be complex because of the EGR setup and the air-to water intercooler.

Because of this, most folks who want more power get at tune. Rocketchip wasn't mentioned here, but Jeff has a great tune for the EA288. Projected power is 180HP/300 torque. The big benefits in my opinion are much better accelerator response on tip-in, much more like a tuned rotary pump TDI. And the car pulls much better in 6th at lower highway speeds (60 and up). Fuel economy is largely unchanged, unless you use the power all the time.
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Old December 25th, 2017, 05:20   #14
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Interesting conversation, but most of it is irrelevant to the OP. I'm not aware of larger injectors for the EA288 engine. Regardless, there's plenty of fuel available through electronic adjustment. Turbo upgrades don't exist yet, at least not in this market, for the EA288. A turbo upgrade would be complex because of the EGR setup and the air-to water intercooler.

Because of this, most folks who want more power get at tune. Rocketchip wasn't mentioned here, but Jeff has a great tune for the EA288. Projected power is 180HP/300 torque. The big benefits in my opinion are much better accelerator response on tip-in, much more like a tuned rotary pump TDI. And the car pulls much better in 6th at lower highway speeds (60 and up). Fuel economy is largely unchanged, unless you use the power all the time.
would it not be possible to get the turbo reworked with a bigger billet compressor wheel?
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would it not be possible to get the turbo reworked with a bigger billet compressor wheel?
No doubt, others have had some sucess with CR190 turbos, but the effort is much more than plug and play, and have heard of some issues with tuning not being able to play nicely.
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