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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old November 29th, 2017, 10:43   #31
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For what it's worth, my 2014 Golf 6 speed is fixed. All payments made by VW and Bosch are safely in the bank, and the car runs beautifully. Got 44.5 mpg on the last tank. That was with winter fuel and non conservative highway driving. Waiting made no sense for me.
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Old November 30th, 2017, 08:18   #32
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Up to now, the opinions for the fix vary a great deal. Some say it does not change much, some say(myself included) it's a totally different car, not in a good way.

So maybe we should get together to test drive each other's fixed car
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Old November 30th, 2017, 10:16   #33
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Yes. I've noticed the different opinions. Probably not all dealers have quality people working on the cars. Maybe some fixes are better than others.
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Old November 30th, 2017, 19:30   #34
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replacing a catalyst, pressing a button on a computer and installing a sticker is pretty hard to **** up.
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Old December 1st, 2017, 06:04   #35
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replacing a catalyst, pressing a button on a computer and installing a sticker is pretty hard to **** up.

Yet it is happening. One fellow posted on the Touareg forum that after he called VWoA it was determined that the dealer had had no idea how to install his car’s new software properly.
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Old December 1st, 2017, 06:05   #36
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After living with my fixed Touareg this week, my opinions are about the same. Mileage is slightly down, but not by much. I’m averaging about 26-28 mpg on my trips to and from work with winter blend fuel. That’s not far off from what it was previously. The engine gets up to temp much faster than before which is a plus for me on cold mornings, even though that probably means using more fuel on start-up. I assume they are cranking up the EGR to get the exhaust system up to temp quickly which adds to the engine noise as well. The engine quiets down once it warms up. The transmission almost shifts like you are in sport mode when the engine is cold, it’s wants a lot of revs. Power is very similar to before at least on my car, but shift points are a little different and gives the power a slightly different feel.

I don’t have much to complain about.
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 09:18   #37
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My '13 Q7 TDI feels down on power. The comments I've read about having to put your foot down a lot harder are accurate to me. I feel like the turbo lag is far worse, but it's more that it shifts way too early, almost feels like it's starting in second gear.

When I put it in Sport, the shift patterns feel closer to what it used to be in normal (maybe a little later shifting than before the fix)

My MPG is down by the estimates.

Mostly feel disappointed that it feels neutered when I was used to a fun SUV that I could loop around corners.. now I depress the gas and ...wait... wait...wait.. push harder.. wait..wait.. push harder... OH THERE IT IS, but now it's too late.

The Audi team had it for about 36 hours, I don't think they had the parts. They didn't refuel it for me either. For reference I'm in So. Cal and Rusnak Pasadena Audi is who did my service.

I am supposed to receive my payment within about 2-3 weeks. I still have heard zero from Bosch. I called them and they say they have my claim but are unwilling to provide any details as to when I should be expecting payment. Supervisor even said they didn't know and that they were "waiting for all of the claims to be reviewed." What the hell does that even mean? Am I expecting to wait until the last person files their 3.0 info with VAG?

Anyway.

TLR Diesel fix as advertised. Car feels neutered. Anyone know if there's something that can be done - aftermarket-wise to modify the shift patterns back? Trying to quickly accelerate into moving traffic from either a dead stop or a slow roll has become very unpredictable. Thanks
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 09:37   #38
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I've been driving the wife's 2014 Q7 that I had fixed second week of November. I posted else where but the engine is louder at idle. Its not as quick as before and there is 5-10% loss in MPG. Might look into a chip in another 4 more months. Its registered in Montana so I don't care about emissions. Time to roll coal and get the MPG back. j/k
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 23:51   #39
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To make sure my question is clear, for those of us who agreed to the "fix" settlement, took Bosch's two payments and VW's first installment payment, is there a deadline by which we must schedule our "fix" to take place?
I'm going on the 14th for my first half of the VW money as my '16 A7's fix cannot be scheduled yet. I have not received anything from Bosch. Should I have? And if so, is it too late or does my model not apply?

Update: Just filed a claim. Looks like I have $1500 coming to me. Do they pay right away?

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Old December 4th, 2017, 06:16   #40
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Assuming a fix is announced for the PC segment, I am going to run my Chipwerke tuning module over the top of the new software. I’ll report results. Since I have the paddle shifters, I am already used to overriding the shift points of the transmission program.
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Assuming a fix is announced for the PC segment, I am going to run my Chipwerke tuning module over the top of the new software. I’ll report results. Since I have the paddle shifters, I am already used to overriding the shift points of the transmission program.
If they approve a fix similar to the Q7's, I want the PSC lawyers to push, very hard, for a buyback. The fix destroyed what the vehicle is supposed to be.

I will be very interested in seeing a dyno between a fixed 3.0L TDI and a newer 3.0T gasser. I felt the power/torque is worse in a fixed 3.0L TDI than in a 3.0T gasser, at least in the 30-60mph range.

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If they approve a fix similar to the Q7's, I want the PSC lawyers to push, very hard, for a buyback. The fix destroyed what the vehicle is supposed to be.



I will be very interested in see a dyno between a fixed 3.0L TDI and a newer 3.0T gasser. I felt the power/torque is worse in a fixed 3.0L TDI than in a 3.0T gasser, at least in the 30-60mph range.

Did you call VWoA to report your experience? You were one of the early adopters. Perhaps they should redo the procedure on your vehicle, see if it changes anything.
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Did you call VWoA to report your experience? You were one of the early adopters. Perhaps they should redo the procedure on your vehicle, see if it changes anything.
I unloaded them in a Newyork minute right after. Didn't call VWOA but I wish I did.
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I called Audi to tell them about my experience. They said they will call me back to follow up about it, but recommended I bring it back to my dealer.

My dealer said there's nothing he can do other than get the foreman to take a test drive with me to see the throttle lag that I'm getting. He thinks it's the new shift timing that the updated software put in (duh).

My main concern is merging with or pulling through oncoming traffic. You can't pull into traffic like before, it's not safe.
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It would be great to know whether the dissatisfaction centers around the Q7 or if it is widespread among all models. Posts about the Cayenne and the Touareg, from what I have found, seem more positive on the whole.
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