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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old November 8th, 2017, 12:57   #1
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Car is 2014 Audi Q7 prestige. Took the car in yesterday and it's done by lunch today. I was told it took the tech 6 hours to finish the job, Glow plug was changed, plus the conversion kit. Cost to VW? $1450 for parts plus $289 for labor. Here is a screen shot from the service guy:



The engine rpm shifted earlier, the car felt lighter on the go. There were definitely less shifting points for both D and S mode, so the end result is that the car drove like toward the pattern of a gasser. I am not sure I like the fixed version better. I have no way to know change on the fuel economy but I have a lead foot, even if it's somewhat reduced(1-2mpg), I wouldn't have known.

The service guy was not aware to fill my car with a full tank of diesel when handing me the key but he trusted me enough to get it done after I showed him the booklet: Hi I don't want you to be complained by your next customer!
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Old November 8th, 2017, 13:38   #2
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interesting about the shifting like you mentioned. I thought the q7 shifted a little weird in D mode, lots of TC slip, them would lock, then upshift etc. In S it felt alot more discrete. Mine is in getting the fix right now, sounds like the shifting will be nicer according to your report.
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Old November 8th, 2017, 15:25   #3
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Thanks for the update. So did the power feel more like a gasser or just the trans shift points? I'm assuming just the transmission but if so did the engine feel down on torque at all?
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Old November 9th, 2017, 06:07   #4
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I pick my Q7 up today...interested to see this. I did notice on my invoice they said they replaced the glow plug, with a pressure sensor? Did I read it right?

Also where does it say free fill up a diesel? I would like to get mine filled up
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Old November 9th, 2017, 06:11   #5
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The glowplugs are also pressure transducers. Pretty nifty little devices. It is a revised version of the old one.


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I pick my Q7 up today...interested to see this. I did notice on my invoice they said they replaced the glow plug, with a pressure sensor? Did I read it right?

Also where does it say free fill up a diesel? I would like to get mine filled up
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Old November 9th, 2017, 08:17   #6
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I pick my Q7 up today...interested to see this. I did notice on my invoice they said they replaced the glow plug, with a pressure sensor? Did I read it right?

Also where does it say free fill up a diesel? I would like to get mine filled up
In the literature for the fix. It's on the web and a copy came in my mailbox last night.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 09:24   #7
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In the literature for the fix. It's on the web and a copy came in my mailbox last night.
Yep, I need to remember to bring my booklet tomorrow to make sure I get the free tank. Big tank on the T-Reg. The $50 in free diesel will be a nice bonus. I hope mine goes as smoothly as the OP.
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Old November 9th, 2017, 09:59   #8
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Yep, I need to remember to bring my booklet tomorrow to make sure I get the free tank. Big tank on the T-Reg. The $50 in free diesel will be a nice bonus. I hope mine goes as smoothly as the OP.

Same here. I might highlight that portion.

Hope they fix my issue soon. 1500 miles til I need adblue or sooner. Wish the service included oil change as I changed mine on Tuesday.
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Free DEF as well!
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Old November 9th, 2017, 18:03   #10
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Sooo picked. My car up, free ad blue, 40.00 worth of fuel..,

Only issue I had, when I first picked it up, the car was lurching badly, almost like it was running out of fuel. I stomped on the accelerator and it sputtered, then was fine, I drove it home, and parked it, I drive all day tomorrow, and we will see if it is fixed.........stay tuned


Update....car drives good..different shift points....but drives well...no issues as of today 25 Miles...

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Old November 10th, 2017, 20:42   #11
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Well I have driven the Q7 150 miles in two days. I noticed the fuel hand is closer to the second hand, and usually it should be in the position of upward of the middle between the first hand and second hand. Assume the dealer honestly fill the tank 100% full, the mpg reduction is definitely not only 1mpg, more like more than 10%.

If this true, it really blows. Please report back your mpg after some driving here and let's collect some data points.

I have long suspected the approved fix is not a pure technical move, but a political one from CARB/EPA.

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Well I have driven the Q7 150 miles in two days. I noticed the fuel hand is closer to the second hand, and usually it should be in the position of upward of the middle between the first hand and second hand. Assume the dealer honestly fill the tank 100% full, the mpg reduction is definitely not only 1mpg, more like more than 10%.

If this true, it really blows. Please report back your mpg after some driving here and let's collect some data points.

I have long suspected the approved fix is not a pure technical move, but a political one from CARB/EPA.
They dont fill the tank, they only put in $40 worth of fuel
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They dont fill the tank, they only put in $40 worth of fuel
This isn't what the literature form mother VW says.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 08:45   #14
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It is misleading. The flyer actually says it will be returned w a full tank of adblue and fuel. The lady at the dealership argued that only means fuel and not a full tank and Audi is only authorizing $40 and showed me the message from Audi saying only $40. Other people on this board are also confirming this. Cheap on audis part. In California it got me 1/4 a tank.
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It is misleading. The flyer actually says it will be returned w a full tank of adblue and fuel. The lady at the dealership argued that only means fuel and not a full tank and Audi is only authorizing $40 and showed me the message from Audi saying only $40. Other people on this board are also confirming this. Cheap on audis part. In California it got me 1/4 a tank.
Good god, how cheap can one get?
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