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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old November 28th, 2017, 09:34   #16
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I was told today that my dealer had the go ahead to sales prep their new 15 and 16 tdi touaregs. I'm told there is dealer cash of 15% off msrp for a 16, 20% off msrp for a 15, and 25% off msrp for a 14 (yes, there are zero mile 14s out there).

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Old November 28th, 2017, 12:22   #17
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where?
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Old November 28th, 2017, 14:51   #18
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Everywhere. VW has allowed sale of leftover Touaregs on dealer lots.
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Old November 28th, 2017, 15:44   #19
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I was contacted by my sales rep as well today....he thought we would be able to test drive the car towards the end of the week.

I'm really struggling with the pricing.....15% off pricing as suggested by Locoelectrician in the post above is accurate, that is crazy IMHO. New 2017's are going for close to 20% off here in DC Metro area.
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Old November 28th, 2017, 16:03   #20
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I think they'll sell the vehicles. People said the same thing about the leftover '15 2.0L TDIs, and they nearly all have sold. Bought back cars were initially more expensive than the new leftovers, although it appears now that prices are dropping. If you want a new Touareg, you're probably going to be willing to pay for it, VW thinks. And I bet they're right. I don't think there are many out there that don't already have deposits on them.
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Old November 28th, 2017, 16:26   #21
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Re: deposits I think you're right. One dealer close to me claims to have 3 deposits for each car they have on the lot. I also think there are probably more than just a few speculators out there who put down a deposit hoping for a good deal......

The questions is, if a 2016 TDI Lux is going for the same price as a 2017 Executive (non diesel), which do you choose??? From a Blue Book value (as in if something happens to the car the day after you purchase it) I gotta think the '17 has more value, the '16 already is a 2 year old car from an insurance perspective....
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Old November 28th, 2017, 16:35   #22
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I think they'll sell the vehicles. People said the same thing about the leftover '15 2.0L TDIs, and they nearly all have sold. Bought back cars were initially more expensive than the new leftovers, although it appears now that prices are dropping. If you want a new Touareg, you're probably going to be willing to pay for it, VW thinks. And I bet they're right. I don't think there are many out there that don't already have deposits on them.
The deposits were all placed before pricing was announced.

Are people really looking to spend $55K to buy a 2016 Touareg that could have been built in August or September of 2015 and been sitting idle since?

If this is the case, the speculators should have no problem moving low mileage 13-16 MY Touaregs.
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Old November 28th, 2017, 19:08   #23
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The deposits were all placed before pricing was announced.
Are people really looking to spend $55K to buy a 2016 Touareg that could have been built in August or September of 2015 and been sitting idle since?
If this is the case, the speculators should have no problem moving low mileage 13-16 MY Touaregs.
I feel that the warrenty as well as the discount (near 30% around my parts) thats being discussed should make it a nice buy.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 05:01   #24
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Tough thing is 'Regs never flew off the lots in the first place.

At 30% off a 55k ride compared to an Alltrack or Tig, you're at spitting distance between the two.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 08:52   #25
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I don't think anyone is offering a 30% discount right of the bat. Even if they do, I'm not interested in updated 2016 Q7 at $50k ( $70k MSRP give or take) price point.
At $40k OTD - sure, I'm in.
I don't see any 2016 Q7 TDI inventory though, probably very limited inventory.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 09:03   #26
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[QUOTE=saggii;5353859]I don't think anyone is offering a 30% discount right of the bat. Even if they do, I'm not interested in updated 2016 Q7 at $50k ( $70k MSRP give or take) price point.
At $40k OTD - sure, I'm in.
I don't see any 2016 Q7 TDI inventory though, probably very limited inventory.[/QUOT

No Q7 TDI for model year 2016. The newest was 2015.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 11:25   #27
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I heard same about approval from Audi, but no numbers in the letter. Thus far, its just low financing options.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 11:43   #28
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I feel that the warrenty as well as the discount (near 30% around my parts) thats being discussed should make it a nice buy.
Show me a 30% offer please.

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Tough thing is 'Regs never flew off the lots in the first place.

At 30% off a 55k ride compared to an Alltrack or Tig, you're at spitting distance between the two.
Bam, how many Tregs did VW sell a year?

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I heard same about approval from Audi, but no numbers in the letter. Thus far, its just low financing options.
Which brings up the question about financing a three MY old car. Only Audi or VW I assume.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 11:52   #29
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Just got the call as well. Funny thing is, they want me to come in today or tomorrow to talk about numbers. Without knowing what VW is going to offer?

Based on that, it tells me they want these things off the lot ASAP. Not a bad position to be in as a buyer.

EDIT, I know on the 4 cyl cars, they only offered a 2 year lease, but with an $8500 cash incentive. I'd be willing to guess the incentive would be more than that on a vehicle worth twice as much. We will find out though.

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Old November 30th, 2017, 04:51   #30
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Bam, how many Tregs did VW sell a year?

Let me take my shoes off and I'll be able to count them all. USA won't buy premium euro VWs, they want cheap econo VW offering, it only took VWoA 10 years to kinda figure that out after the epic fail of the phaeton in the US.

Now they should offer their stripper caddy to compete with all the small runabout panel vans people have started moving towards. They have zero to offer the trades.
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