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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old June 29th, 2016, 11:55   #31
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I strongly suspect you will get a reasonable facsimile of a fix for your car, me not so much. I'm pretty sure when the fix deadline comes and goes I will be out of options; however the depreciation might not look so bad at that point.

You don't get the "compensation" until the car is actually "fixed".
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Old June 29th, 2016, 20:44   #32
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I just went through the calculations for my 2011 GSW TDI w/DSG, 74,000 km, and the US buyback value seems to come out to around $21,600. If VW Canada follows the US, this would be ok with me.
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Old June 29th, 2016, 21:12   #33
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I just went through the calculations for my 2011 GSW TDI w/DSG, 74,000 km, and the US buyback value seems to come out to around $21,600. If VW Canada follows the US, this would be ok with me.
I have you at $18,760.

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Old June 29th, 2016, 22:03   #34
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I have you at $18,760.

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Hmmm, I just used the calculator and it gave me $23,207.
I used 45,000 mi (= 75,000km) on Oct. 2017.

I'll gladly take it!!
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Old June 29th, 2016, 22:28   #35
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My apologies. I've been entering kms instead of miles. Duh!

I feel so stupid... but much happier.
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Old June 29th, 2016, 22:58   #36
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Based on the calculator, my 2015 jetta with 60,000 km is worth 33,000 CAD

I'll gladly take that lol
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Old June 30th, 2016, 05:29   #37
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I think with the calculations I went through, it came out to $27,647 for my Passat w/ 88,000km on it.

Still a bit worried about the language being used by VW Canada right now: they've somewhat changed their message since April (from "we will do in Canada what we do in the U.S." to "we hope for something similar").
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Old June 30th, 2016, 05:50   #38
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I think with the calculations I went through, it came out to $27,647 for my Passat w/ 88,000km on it.

Still a bit worried about the language being used by VW Canada right now: they've somewhat changed their message since April (from "we will do in Canada what we do in the U.S." to "we hope for something similar").
Same here. Now we have another 4 weeks to wait.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 05:55   #39
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Same here. Now we have another 4 weeks to wait.
At which point we find out that we get a free toque, can of beer, and a token gift card .

In all honesty, I feel like VW is waiting to see how things turn out south of the border before they offer us anything. Makes sense in a way: if they offer Canadians a better deal, then everyone in the U.S. will cry foul. If they offer Canadians a sub-standard deal, and then renegotiate in the U.S. based on consumer feedback with a better deal, then we will be upset.

Best reason I can justify this point with is the data on https://www.vwemissionsinfo.ca/news/...tdi-vehicles/: if they were not going to wait on the U.S. decision, then why would they even be mentioning it to Canadian customers?
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I think with the calculations I went through, it came out to $27,647 for my Passat w/ 88,000km on it.

Still a bit worried about the language being used by VW Canada right now: they've somewhat changed their message since April (from "we will do in Canada what we do in the U.S." to "we hope for something similar").
Are you sure?
I have a 2012 with Fender and 105,000 kms...using that calculator I got $26,300 CDN.
Did you (or anyone else) convert your kms into miles and then after getting the amount convert into CDN $ after?
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Old June 30th, 2016, 06:06   #41
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Are you sure?
I have a 2012 with Fender and 105,000 kms...using that calculator I got $26,300 CDN.
Did you (or anyone else) convert your kms into miles and then after getting the amount convert into CDN $ after?
Oho! I did convert to miles, but the resulting amount was not converted back into CDN$. Thanks for the tip!

But, and this is a decently-sized "but", when we were issued the VW owner loyalty cards, it was not converted from US $ to CDN $: everyone got the same $1,000 regardless of where they were. In my current state of mistrust of VW, and believe me when I say I have plenty of mistrust for them, I somehow think they might try the same trick with a settlement up here (if we see one at all).
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Oho! I did convert to miles, but the resulting amount was not converted back into CDN$. Thanks for the tip!

But, and this is a decently-sized "but", when we were issued the VW owner loyalty cards, it was not converted from US $ to CDN $: everyone got the same $1,000 regardless of where they were. In my current state of mistrust of VW, and believe me when I say I have plenty of mistrust for them, I somehow think they might try the same trick with a settlement up here (if we see one at all).
True...but I really doubt they would give us Canadians, US trade-in/retail/bluebook/whatever values. We paid in CDN...we should get paid in CDN as well.
But if not...ya'll see me on the news.
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True...but I really doubt they would give us Canadians, US trade-in/retail/bluebook/whatever values. We paid in CDN...we should get paid in CDN as well.
But if not...ya'll see me on the news.
Absolutely agree with you: we need to see the same level of compensation and it should be in CDN.

Let's wait until July 29th and then get the pitchforks ready. If the car only needs to be driveable, I'll take the front bumper off and mount it on a stake (Lord of the Flies style): won't accomplish much, but it will make me feel better.

I guess I'm really, really ticked at VW not so much because they pulled this ridiculous stunt in the first place, but because they have been so lackluster in their response. Even more than that, I'm ticked because they sold a car in Canada that should not have been sold in the first place, and a car that I absolutely love driving...makes the thought of giving it up and having it potentially be crushed more upsetting...less upsetting than the thought of having it "fixed" and subsequently neutered in one way or another though.
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Old June 30th, 2016, 06:29   #44
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I'm reluctant to say anything at this point (sheepishly cowed) but I expect Cdn values for the "trade in" figure will be somewhat elevated given that we typically pay more for vehicles.

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Old June 30th, 2016, 06:51   #45
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Interesting point I was thinking about the other day too that would hopefully support us getting a decent settlement here: if you look at the percentage of sales of TDIs in comparison to overall population, we are nearly twice that of the U.S. (numbers from Google, with population as of 2014, and number of 2.0 TDIs sold rounded up).

U.S. (num 2.0 TDIs/population): 500,000/318,900,000 = 0.16%
Canada (num 2.0 TDIs/population): 100,000/35,160,000 = 0.28%

Note to any VW employees looking at these posts (we all know you are ): you get more attention per capita in Canada. Smarten up and treat us properly, or that will change.
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