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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old July 7th, 2015, 09:51   #1
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03 Jetta wagon, 5sp, silver w/ cloth interior. 302k miles. Motor rebuilt by VW at 105k when the timing belt broke (new head and a couple of pistons).

I did the timing belt for the owner at ~185 and again at ~270k (he got scared after the breakage). Car had some issues throughout that whole time (worn suspension, chipped paint, dirty interior), but ran great.

Now - his father (my coworker) has it and was going to have me go through everything, but has decided to sell it instead. They can't get it into 1st or reverse and it has a horrible vibration that is most likely a bad DMF.

It does have a new battery and rear brakes. Still needs complete suspension freshening and a good cleaning - then a respray on at least the hood.

He's looking to get $1500. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it for me to buy, fix and sell or if I would have made more money just doing the labor. Of course I already have 3 MKIVs (and the NMS, 57 Oval, Nissan Frontier...) so I need this like a hole in the head... But it's tempting
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Old July 7th, 2015, 10:53   #2
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Id offer him $1,200, budget wise say about $2,200 worst case to get it fixed and on the road.
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Old July 7th, 2015, 11:05   #3
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1500 sounds reasonable for a car that you are that familiar with.
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Old July 7th, 2015, 11:43   #4
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I might let him sit on it for a little bit - just letting him know I'm thinking it over... It'll give me a chance to sell off some of the other stuff I have sitting. I could always pretend that I'm fixing it for someone But $1200 is closer to what I was thinking - I'd jump on it at 1k. About $1000 in parts for the clutch kit/DMF and suspension refresh (I have some stuff on the shelf already). I could even paint it myself if I wanted to really freshen it up. The problem is that I tend to be a perfectionist when fixing everything and tend to get a little carried away.
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Old July 7th, 2015, 12:06   #5
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If you have the time, money and space I'd say jump on it. Worst case you can sell it for the same amount or for a profit when repaired.
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Old July 7th, 2015, 12:47   #6
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Buy it and put it on the shelf, if you don't need it now you will!
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Old July 7th, 2015, 13:37   #7
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If you have the time, money and space I'd say jump on it. Worst case you can sell it for the same amount or for a profit when repaired.
I have the money - I can find the space (I can actually leave it where it is for now) - I guess I would have made the time to fix it for him anyway. I have no need to keep it - it would definitely be to sell when done.
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Buy it and put it on the shelf, if you don't need it now you will!
I had finally got down to 'only' 4 cars/trucks (had 13 at one point). Back up to 6 now.
My girlfriend will not follow your logic at all! But - I am getting rid of 2 cars now so it would still be going in the right direction, sorta. I have another 03 silver TDI wagon that I work on regularly - maybe she won't know the difference
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Old July 7th, 2015, 14:23   #8
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Either buy it or advise your coworker to fix the clutch/flywheel and sell it for more.
I've read where it can be a struggle to get those DMFs off if they separate.
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Old July 7th, 2015, 15:51   #9
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I have the money - I can find the space (I can actually leave it where it is for now) - I guess I would have made the time to fix it for him anyway. I have no need to keep it - it would definitely be to sell when done.

I had finally got down to 'only' 4 cars/trucks (had 13 at one point). Back up to 6 now.
My girlfriend will not follow your logic at all! But - I am getting rid of 2 cars now so it would still be going in the right direction, sorta. I have another 03 silver TDI wagon that I work on regularly - maybe she won't know the difference
get rid of the GF! jk.
i also would get, fix, sell.
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Old July 10th, 2015, 10:49   #10
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Gforce1108,

You've only got three MKIVs..............I started with one TDI, the 2005 Jetta wagon. Now I've got nine (well eight, one is gas). I look for good deals on Craigslist that are priced right but can be fixed. Somehow once I go through and fix them up, I don't want to sell them. Fortunately we have a farm so I keep a couple up at the cabin, a couple in the driveway, one in the barn, one here, one there. That way it doesn't "look like a used car lot". And I've got a couple back up cars, if needed.

I'd say for $1500 it would be worth the risk, even if you kept it for parts.

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You've only got three MKIVs..............I started with one TDI, the 2005 Jetta wagon. Now I've got nine (well eight, one is gas). I look for good deals on Craigslist that are priced right but can be fixed. Somehow once I go through and fix them up, I don't want to sell them. Fortunately we have a farm so I keep a couple up at the cabin, a couple in the driveway, one in the barn, one here, one there. That way it doesn't "look like a used car lot". And I've got a couple back up cars, if needed.
I'd say for $1500 it would be worth the risk, even if you kept it for parts.
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Old July 10th, 2015, 11:34   #12
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Personally with the issues and the time that you had to put into it i wouldn't offer more than $500 bux
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Old July 10th, 2015, 21:10   #13
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Reading your guys posts I dont feel so bad about my situation. I have 5 cars.
MK# jetta TDI daily (soon to be sold),
MK4 wagon TDI (just picked up with plan to flip, but going to keep it)
1990 Corrado with a AHU swapped in that needs electrical still for conversion. On back burner
1997 Suzuki sidekic, off road rig. need front end work. on back burner
1997 honda civic oval track race car. sitting in a barn on back burner.
At least I have variety. Lol
Wife still hates it.
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Old July 11th, 2015, 06:10   #14
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I bought an 03 wagon 5 speed with a blown motor for $1k.
It was well used by the PO and somewhat rusty but with 3 other MKIV's, a parts car is a small goldmine when one needs a switch, caliper, IP etc.
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I bought an 03 wagon 5 speed with a blown motor for $1k.
It was well used by the PO and somewhat rusty but with 3 other MKIV's, a parts car is a small goldmine when one needs a switch, caliper, IP etc.
Exactly! I have one parts car, one of the 2002 Golfs. The motor was run without oil until it seized. So far it has donated numerous parts to the other cars.

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