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Old January 10th, 2014, 08:42   #46
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Back in the 70's, my Family with our big Olds 98 and airstream flipped over on I-75,
so I've experienced first hand the danger of speed, other drivers, and a big load.

Not much fun sliding down the highway upside down !!

I may or may not worry about traffic laws. May have driven my lambo 260 km/hr
or crossed a double yellow line a time or two in my CSL.

But I do worry about safety and towing a big load a mile or two at 20 mph
is a lot different than a highway trip !!
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Old January 11th, 2014, 11:03   #47
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Back in the 70's, my Family with our big Olds 98 and airstream flipped over on I-75,
so I've experienced first hand the danger of speed, other drivers, and a big load.

Not much fun sliding down the highway upside down !!

I may or may not worry about traffic laws. May have driven my lambo 260 km/hr
or crossed a double yellow line a time or two in my CSL.

But I do worry about safety and towing a big load a mile or two at 20 mph
is a lot different than a highway trip !!

I 75 can be nasty at times. I've seen trucks with their trailers tipped over. A few people I worked with were Killed on it. I drive it everyday to go to work.
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Old January 11th, 2014, 23:35   #48
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Ann Arbor medical center saved my Dad's life. He shielded me and injured his head and arm - scraped the road as the car slid on its roof. This was a big heavy Oldsmobile 98. Probable 1971. I can't imagine one of our light tdi's sliding upside down on an interstate our family of 6 survived !! Don't tow a load heavier than your tdi !!

And yes, police can stop you for any unsafe driving. And they should !!
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Old January 12th, 2014, 12:44   #49
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I'd rather be in my TDI sliding on its roof than ANYTHING made in 1971.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 12:56   #50
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Ann Arbor medical center saved my Dad's life. He shielded me and injured his head and arm - scraped the road as the car slid on its roof. This was a big heavy Oldsmobile 98. Probable 1971. I can't imagine one of our light tdi's sliding upside down on an interstate our family of 6 survived !! Don't tow a load heavier than your tdi !!

And yes, police can stop you for any unsafe driving. And they should !!
What gets me I've seen guys pulling single axle trailers that were swaying right and left in the lane. I've seen items fly off of these trailers as well as from the back of flatbeds on I 75. All of these items fly into traffic behind them. I'm 50 the Olds 98 was a classic and some had 455 CI V8s I believe. My friends had a 400 Rocket a good engine. As a matter of fact was one of GMs high end heavy duty cars, like a Lincoln Towncar. From Michigan to Florida and a lot of traffic at high speeds. I'm glad you got out alive and I commend the sacrifice of your dad who shielded you. Here in Ohio our State Patrol lets too many go that are doing unsafe towing.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 20:05   #51
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Normaly there is a spec from the car builder. There is a max weight of the car and a total weight including every thing in the car and in tow. It is illegal to go over that number but the cops dont know anything about it. The guy's that know are the truck inspector's but since you are not a comercial truck they dont have the right to do any thing.

I had a big 20feet box truck w5500 with a trailer with a second w5500 truck on the trailler. Past 3 hours a the scale because the inspector said it looked wrong! Finaly after 3 hours and 5 inspectors 3books and a call to GMC they had to let me go. I was 25pounds Under the limit. I did not add any fuel before i was back to Canada!
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Old January 13th, 2014, 05:14   #52
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one of my favorite videos ... it's old but still funny
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Old January 13th, 2014, 07:59   #53
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one of my favorite videos ... it's old but still funny
Yes, exactly: Be careful what you tow doesn't tow you !!!

And I don't know the difference between a heavy Olds 98
sliding upside down on an interstate vs. a tdi sliding on it's roof.
I know we don't want to find out !!!! I do know why riding in a
travel trailer is prohibited - our Airstream only had the platform
left - everything above was strewn along the interstate -
We never were a member of the Wally-Byam club since,
as our trailer was a total loss.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 13:05   #54
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one of my favorite videos ... it's old but still funny

Eleven years ago I pulled a single axle trailer with a Ford Escort that had a 2.0 L gasoline. I had several transmission casings in the trailer which were tied down with binders. I took fairly flat state routes with a maximum speed of 55 MPH. I estimate the load at about 700 lbs. max. I only had about 60 miles to tow them, and what you know temp gauge after 40 miles shot up the wall. Seemed about like your video. Its funny when we are hard pressed to tow things what we feel can work.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 13:31   #55
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Yes, exactly: Be careful what you tow doesn't tow you !!!

And I don't know the difference between a heavy Olds 98
sliding upside down on an interstate vs. a tdi sliding on it's roof.
I know we don't want to find out !!!! I do know why riding in a
travel trailer is prohibited - our Airstream only had the platform
left - everything above was strewn along the interstate -
We never were a member of the Wally-Byam club since,
as our trailer was a total loss.

The 1971 Olds Delta 98 would have been big enough to handle any travel trailer of the time. There must have been some other factor. Possibly the trailer brakes failed or excessive speed.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 18:59   #56
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Or wind. I've seen a bunch of videos online where wind grabs a travel trailer and tosses it.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 21:30   #57
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Wind can (and does) flip fully-loaded semis weighing in at 80,000 lbs... So it is nothing to trifle with.

As for the trailer being heavier than the towing vehicle - PLENTY of rigs are this way without problems. This is not to suggest that it is a safe setup in the case of a VW, but the most extreme example is the mobile home mover. Many tens of tons, being pulled by an extremely short wheelbase truck and ball hitch.

What makes that setup safe? The trailer brakes. I have pulled many very heavy things with my Jeep Liberty CRD (former vehicle) and with my Jetta TDI wagon... But the ability to stop them is more important.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 07:52   #58
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I'd say go for it as long as you don't exceed 80 km/h, or whatever that is in imperial. After seeing Polo's and Golf's TDI's towing tandem axle RV's on the Autobahns, I don't see a problem. However, over there, 80 km/h is the limit max speed for any vehicle towing anything.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:09   #59
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I don't know how relevant, but everyone likes pictures. You can tow big loads with a car that is properly prepared. That Cadillac is rated for 7000lbs (which is more than the car weighs), equipped with a class 3 hitch, and electric brake controller. This was towing home one of my projects. Note that some states/provinces/areas are VERY strict about not towing weights above the factory rating for the tow vehicle. Check your owner's manual.



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Old January 15th, 2014, 09:17   #60
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Does the Caddy have the air ride rear suspension? I'm sure that helps with a load like that.
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