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Old April 6th, 2013, 07:26   #1
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Default Wheel lug nut torque

The 2013 owners manual calls for 103 ft/lb of torque for the wheel bolts. This seems a bit high. I have always used, as per the manuals, 88 to 90 ft/lbs of torque on my other VW's. Far be it for me to question VW but I have enough history with the company to be skeptical. Any thoughts?
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Old April 6th, 2013, 08:15   #2
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The 2013 owners manual calls for 103 ft/lb of torque for the wheel bolts. This seems a bit high. I have always used, as per the manuals, 88 to 90 ft/lbs of torque on my other VW's. Far be it for me to question VW but I have enough history with the company to be skeptical. Any thoughts?
FWIW the factory shop manual states the 103 value as well. (Actually it says 140 Nm which converts to 103.26 ft-lbs)
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Old April 7th, 2013, 06:25   #3
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FWIW the factory shop manual states the 103 value as well.
Thank you for the confirmation.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 07:10   #4
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My Sprinter van calls for 175 ft-pounds on the lug nuts! Apparently they can make these strong enough to take the torque.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 14:29   #5
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When I rotated the wheels for the 10K service, I tightened and hand torqued each one to spec - 103 ft-lb, with my clicker-type torque wrench. Not applying enough torque is not worth having your wheel bolts loosen while driving. Nothing but bad things will happen.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 12:09   #6
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And apparently there was a misprint in early manuals, and the torque was spec'd too low (I think the 80-90 lbft*number)

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Old April 8th, 2013, 20:02   #7
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I have always torqued that size stud / lug to 85 ft-lb without any problems. On literally dozens of cars. 103 is fine and all, I wouldn't lose any sleep over 85 or 90.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 20:37   #8
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I usually do 85 for passenger cars, unless I know offhand what the spec is...
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Shouldn't be an issue. 100lb-ft isn't an issue for really any car.

The Jetta with its 89lb-ft is almost low.
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I wouldn't be worried about 100-103ft.-lbs. As JM said above, 100ft.-lbs. is about what most passenger cars require for lug nut torque.

You think 103ft.-lbs. is high? How does 300ft.-lbs. on the 5/8" studs on my 1990 1-ton Dodge make you feel?
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I wouldn't be worried about 100-103ft.-lbs. As JM said above, 100ft.-lbs. is about what most passenger cars require for lug nut torque.

You think 103ft.-lbs. is high? How does 300ft.-lbs. on the 5/8" studs on my 1990 1-ton Dodge make you feel?
Porsche has you beat with the 400lb-ft that their center locking system uses:

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Porsche has you beat with the 400lb-ft that their center locking system uses.
Understandable, since there's only one nut/stud holding the wheel in place and fighting all those forces.
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Thanks for all the input. I was wondering about the numbers since hearing of situations of cracked wheel hubs with over-torque. They must be grossly over-torqued to have that occur.
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I just tossed the summer shoes on and had them at my typical 90-92. 600 miles since and they are still on with no signs of backing out.

Also remember who here has verified their torque wrench has been calibrated recently?
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Me! Just so happens I have a calibration tool so I can check my wrenches at 50 & 100 lb ft. I check when I remember. My 3/8 SnapOn is dead accurate, my 1/2 Craftsman is right at 50 and 2 lbs low at 100.

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