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Old April 6th, 2013, 08:32   #16
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Meh...

I'm into the certified warranty portion anyway, and will probably be done with that after the end of this year at my driving rate. I have the Malone tune stage 1.5 and have had no problems thusfar.
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Old April 6th, 2013, 14:12   #17
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Meh...

I'm into the certified warranty portion anyway, and will probably be done with that after the end of this year at my driving rate. I have the Malone tune stage 1.5 and have had no problems thusfar.
Please tell us more about the tune. Like I said above, I am going to do mine shortly, but would love to hear what you think of it.


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Old April 6th, 2013, 20:01   #18
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Well, the tune itself takes about 3-4 hours to complete.

I've forgotten what the shifts are like in a regular TDI. Mine are VERY quick (since I have the DSG, you MUST get the DSG tune). With stage 1.5, you can get quite a bit of wheelspin if you are really aggressive from a stop. Mileage decreased about 1-2 on the highway, but I have still gotten up to 46 mpg and over 800 miles on one tank.

When I have had people ride with me, I have had people say that the car pulls like an 8 cylinder.

One cool little feature is that the gear indicator on the info screen shows D(gear) instead of just D.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 08:00   #19
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Isn't there some recourse with Audi voiding the ENTIRE warranty considering the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act?
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Old April 7th, 2013, 17:16   #20
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Isn't there some recourse with Audi voiding the ENTIRE warranty considering the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act?
The intention of the Mag Moss Act was to allow vehicle owners to maintain their vehicles with non-OE parts (oil, filters, etc.). It was not intended to cover alternative engine programming and performance modifications. At least that's my understanding of it.

Mag Moss has been mentioned numerous times on this site over the years, but I can't recall reading a single post in which it upheld someone's warranty after being voided for performance mods.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 19:03   #21
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The intention of the Mag Moss Act was to allow vehicle owners to maintain their vehicles with non-OE parts (oil, filters, etc.). It was not intended to cover alternative engine programming and performance modifications. At least that's my understanding of it.

Mag Moss has been mentioned numerous times on this site over the years, but I can't recall reading a single post in which it upheld someone's warranty after being voided for performance mods.
I'd side with VeeDubTDI's comments. The problem is that they can deny it even if it isn't proved to be at fault. As long as they think it was possible, they can deny it and you will have to fight it and pay the costs and time to get an appeals/court decision.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 17:03   #22
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Well, the tune itself takes about 3-4 hours to complete.

I've forgotten what the shifts are like in a regular TDI. Mine are VERY quick (since I have the DSG, you MUST get the DSG tune). With stage 1.5, you can get quite a bit of wheelspin if you are really aggressive from a stop. Mileage decreased about 1-2 on the highway, but I have still gotten up to 46 mpg and over 800 miles on one tank.

When I have had people ride with me, I have had people say that the car pulls like an 8 cylinder.

One cool little feature is that the gear indicator on the info screen shows D(gear) instead of just D.
I have a few more questions.

How does the car feel in the middle of the power band, from about 2500-3800?

Does it do the unnecessary downshifts when you floor it like it did stock?

What is the difference between D & S?

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Old June 9th, 2014, 08:07   #23
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Just had my 2012 done by Giles at Performance Diesel Injection in Toronto, they did a great job. The car is a blast to drive now. Acceleration in passing is just there when you need it, no downshift needed most of the time. Well worth the upgrade.

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Old June 9th, 2014, 08:43   #24
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Just had my 2012 done by Giles at Performance Diesel Injection in Toronto, they did a great job. The car is a blast to drive now. Acceleration in passing is just there when you need it, no downshift needed most of the time. Well worth the upgrade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um4Ijq8Q74Y
Did they do a DSG tune? The shifts seem a bit rough.
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Did they do a DSG tune? The shifts seem a bit rough.
Seconded. I'm quite sure I'd not be happy with that shift performance.
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How easy would it be to identify and DSG tune without any other tunes or mods?
Beneficial?
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DSG tune without an engine tune improves shift behavior and shift points, which is particularly beneficial on the Passat, which tends to shift too late at WOT with the stock configuration. I don't know if it's worth doing on a Golf/Jetta/Beetle, but I think it's money well-spent on the Passat.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 11:02   #28
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Seconded. I'm quite sure I'd not be happy with that shift performance.
The shift points are good, but the engagement of the next gear seems questionable.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 13:17   #29
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Would a dealer be able to recognize it?
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Would a dealer be able to recognize it?
Yes, if they looked close enough.
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